So Euroleague seasons has started, some impressions from day one.
Opened the season with Dubai 78 - 77 Real, Dubai wins at home. Dubai team looks pretty sweat, two of their best players, Petrusev and Shengiia didn't even play that well, but Dwayne Bacon had a great game and that was enough to down Real. Team is good, but what an awful opener from athmostphere perspective, not only Dubai crowd is nowhere up to standard, arena didn't have any music, I am not sure if it was broken, or thats just the norm, but stuff like player introductions felt so sad and bad its hard to describe.
Bayern 86 - 84 Hapoel, in Sofia, another nail bitter, Germans survied Dan Oturu's 32 PIR performance, was just watching parts of this, but it was a nail bitter.
Žalgiris 83 - 77 Red Star, in Belgrade. Žalgiris' star bigs dominated. Valančiūnas 24 PIR, Tubelis 23 PIR. On the other hand, Zvezda's C Johnathan Motley had an all time bad performance with -13 PIR. This game came down to the wire, and we saw my least favorite International basketball rule again, an Ataman special, where with 2:30 left, Valančiūnas was fouled, but he was hit hard and ''couldn't shoot FT's", so Žalgiris coach subbed Carsen Edwards who of course hit both FT's, and after like next break, Valančiūnas returned to the game... Anyhow, I think both team have a lot of talent this year,
Panathinaikos 91 - 72 Paris, in Athens. Zeljko's return was easy, man this PAO team is stacked, Hayes-Davis, Nunn, Sloukas and Fall didn't even play... This is most stacked team in Europe for sure. Lessort dominated, Francisco had great debut, Yebussle showed flashes.
Olympiacos 106 - 89 Baskonia, in Vitoria. Basks actually started great, surprisingly so, but OLY quickly took control and their offense blew the game out, Vazenkov is most popular fantasy player and he probably made most very happy with his 30 PIR performance, nothing new here. Tyler Dorsey carried his last season form and wasn;t much worse with 29 PIR.
Barcelona 89 - 82 Anadolu Efes, in Barcelona. Beside Greek teams blowing their opponents, this was another nail bitter. could have gone either way in the last minute, but with 49 seconds left Justin Robinson made a huge 3 giving Barce 4 point lead, and Efes couldn't recover. While watching some of this game, even with Barca winning it at the end, I was thinking how the mighty have fallen, this Barca team does not look very talented at all, they almost got beat by Dario Saric lead Efes, Dario Saric by the way was great, I thought he was completely washed, but apparently not, but yeah, not a lot of talent on either side to be honest, its pretty crazy, but teams like Žalgiris and Red Star have more quality than Barca...
ASVEL 84 - 74 Maccabi, in Villeurbanne. Wasn't watching this really, Jae Crowder seem to have a good game and Tony Parkers debut was a success. I talked about how Barca have fallen, but they have nothing on former great, Tel Aviv Maccabi, who are simply put, not even in the play in hunt these days. Maybe its by design considering current political evens, and maybe they are saving it up for the season, but yeah, former great teams like Maccabi, Barca and Baskonia feel like could end up playing for play in tops, maybe I am wrong about Barca
Top players in PIR after day 1
Dan Oturu - 32
Dwayne Bacon - 31
Sasha Vezenkov - 30
Tyler Dorsey - 29
Mathias Lessort - 28
Dario Saric - 26
Chris Jones - 25
Jae Crowder - 25
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Panathinaikos still stacked beyond belief, Francisco looks great. ASVEL is still ASVEL.
OLympiacos beat Žalgiris in Kaunas on Tuesday, despite playing Greek Supercup games on Saturday and Sunday... But Žalgiris looked good considering Goss and Lee were both out, they basically had to use Giedraitis as main point guard, which is brutal, but still only lost by 1. Shaq and ARvydas had courtside seats.
Valencia legit might be best SPanish team now, even after losing Montero.
OLympiacos beat Žalgiris in Kaunas on Tuesday, despite playing Greek Supercup games on Saturday and Sunday... But Žalgiris looked good considering Goss and Lee were both out, they basically had to use Giedraitis as main point guard, which is brutal, but still only lost by 1. Shaq and ARvydas had courtside seats.
Valencia legit might be best SPanish team now, even after losing Montero.
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League table after 4 rounds, and some key stats

TEAM LEADERS
Points per game
1 : Valencia Basket (101.3)
2 : Olympiacos (95.5)
3 : Besiktas (94.3)
4 : Panathinaikos (93.8)
5 : ASVEL Basket (88.3)
Offensive rating
1 : Valencia Basket (128.5)
2 : Panathinaikos (127.1)
3 : Olympiacos (126.6)
4 : Besiktas (124.9)
5 : Barcelona (123.3)
Defensive rating
1 : KK Crvena Zvezda (98.4)
2 : Panathinaikos (99.0)
3 : Fenerbahce (107.0)
4 : KK Partizan (110.6)
5 : Anadolu Efes (112.4)
Bottom 5 TEAM stat
Points per game
1 : Dubai (74.0)
2 : KK Crvena Zvezda (77.8)
3 : Anadolu Efes (78.5)
4 : AX Armani Milan (79.5)
5 : Fenerbahce (82.0)
Offensive rating
1 : KK Crvena Zvezda (104.1)
2 : Anadolu Efes (104.1)
3 : Dubai (107.8)
4 : Paris Basketball (110.9)
5 : Maccabi Tel Aviv (111.4)
Defensive rating
1 : AX Armani Milan ( 126.2)
2 : Baskonia (125.3)
3 : ASVEL Basket (123.3)
4 : Bayern Munich (123.1)
5 : Maccabi Tel Aviv (121.9)
PLAYER STATS
PPG.
1 : Nadir Hifi (20.3)
2 : Duane Washington, Jr. (19.3)
3 : Carlik Jones (18.8)
4 : Scottie Wilbekin (18.3)
5 : T.J. Shorts II (17.5)
RPG.
1 : Walter Tavares (8.0)
2 : Aliou Diarra (7.5)
3 : Braxton Key (7.5)
4 : Azuolas Tubelis (7.3)
5 : Jonas Valanciunas (7.3)
APG.
1 : Marcus Carr (6.5)
2 : Devon Hall (6.3)
3 : Carlik Jones (6.3)
4 : T.J. Shorts II (6.3)
5 : Wade Baldwin IV (6.0)
Player Index Rating PIR
1 : Elijah Bryant (26.8)
2 : Carlik Jones (24.8)
3 : Mathias Lessort (22.8)
4 : Sasha Vezenkov (21.5)
5 : Jonas Valanciunas (20.3)
Defensive rating
1 : Juancho Hernangomez (86.9)
2 : Mathias Lessort (94.3)
3 : Kostas Mitoglou (94.5)
4 : Jordan Nwora (96.1)
5 : Luca Vildoza (96.5)
Offensive rating
1 : Juancho Hernangomez (192.0)
2 : Leopold Cavaliere (174.9)
3 : Nikola Mirotic (160.1)
4 : Ante Zizic (155.8)
5 : Olek Balcerowski (154.8)
Ediff
1 : Juancho Hernangomez (105.2)
2 : Leopold Cavaliere (53.5)
3 : Kai Jones (49.0)
4 : Nikola Mirotic (48.8)
5 : Lefteris Mantzoukas (45.6)
PER
1 : Mbaye N'Diaye (30.4)
2 : Nikola Mirotic (30.2)
3 : Carlik Jones (28.4)
4 : Sasha Vezenkov (27.5)
5 : Mathias Lessort (26.9)
Offensive and defensive ratings for players with such sample size is basically useless, but still included just cause.

TEAM LEADERS
Points per game
1 : Valencia Basket (101.3)
2 : Olympiacos (95.5)
3 : Besiktas (94.3)
4 : Panathinaikos (93.8)
5 : ASVEL Basket (88.3)
Offensive rating
1 : Valencia Basket (128.5)
2 : Panathinaikos (127.1)
3 : Olympiacos (126.6)
4 : Besiktas (124.9)
5 : Barcelona (123.3)
Defensive rating
1 : KK Crvena Zvezda (98.4)
2 : Panathinaikos (99.0)
3 : Fenerbahce (107.0)
4 : KK Partizan (110.6)
5 : Anadolu Efes (112.4)
Bottom 5 TEAM stat
Points per game
1 : Dubai (74.0)
2 : KK Crvena Zvezda (77.8)
3 : Anadolu Efes (78.5)
4 : AX Armani Milan (79.5)
5 : Fenerbahce (82.0)
Offensive rating
1 : KK Crvena Zvezda (104.1)
2 : Anadolu Efes (104.1)
3 : Dubai (107.8)
4 : Paris Basketball (110.9)
5 : Maccabi Tel Aviv (111.4)
Defensive rating
1 : AX Armani Milan ( 126.2)
2 : Baskonia (125.3)
3 : ASVEL Basket (123.3)
4 : Bayern Munich (123.1)
5 : Maccabi Tel Aviv (121.9)
PLAYER STATS
PPG.
1 : Nadir Hifi (20.3)
2 : Duane Washington, Jr. (19.3)
3 : Carlik Jones (18.8)
4 : Scottie Wilbekin (18.3)
5 : T.J. Shorts II (17.5)
RPG.
1 : Walter Tavares (8.0)
2 : Aliou Diarra (7.5)
3 : Braxton Key (7.5)
4 : Azuolas Tubelis (7.3)
5 : Jonas Valanciunas (7.3)
APG.
1 : Marcus Carr (6.5)
2 : Devon Hall (6.3)
3 : Carlik Jones (6.3)
4 : T.J. Shorts II (6.3)
5 : Wade Baldwin IV (6.0)
Player Index Rating PIR
1 : Elijah Bryant (26.8)
2 : Carlik Jones (24.8)
3 : Mathias Lessort (22.8)
4 : Sasha Vezenkov (21.5)
5 : Jonas Valanciunas (20.3)
Defensive rating
1 : Juancho Hernangomez (86.9)
2 : Mathias Lessort (94.3)
3 : Kostas Mitoglou (94.5)
4 : Jordan Nwora (96.1)
5 : Luca Vildoza (96.5)
Offensive rating
1 : Juancho Hernangomez (192.0)
2 : Leopold Cavaliere (174.9)
3 : Nikola Mirotic (160.1)
4 : Ante Zizic (155.8)
5 : Olek Balcerowski (154.8)
Ediff
1 : Juancho Hernangomez (105.2)
2 : Leopold Cavaliere (53.5)
3 : Kai Jones (49.0)
4 : Nikola Mirotic (48.8)
5 : Lefteris Mantzoukas (45.6)
PER
1 : Mbaye N'Diaye (30.4)
2 : Nikola Mirotic (30.2)
3 : Carlik Jones (28.4)
4 : Sasha Vezenkov (27.5)
5 : Mathias Lessort (26.9)
Offensive and defensive ratings for players with such sample size is basically useless, but still included just cause.
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I noticing a trend that our female sideline reporters are often taller than our players

I was always catching that PAO sideline reporter towers over most point guards, but I noticed that she wears these...


I was always catching that PAO sideline reporter towers over most point guards, but I noticed that she wears these...
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Chris Jones with a buzzerbeater win for Zvezda. SAved Moneke's ass, at this point I feel that Moneke is Zach Lavine of the Euroleague, but Lavine can actually finish wide open dunks.
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Holly crap, Olympiacos came back from -28 and won the game against Valencia, Montero had 35 PIR, right after I released him from my fatansy team for Nadir Hifi...

Montero still not playing for the NBA team is absurd at this point.
Montero still not playing for the NBA team is absurd at this point.
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Outlook of the league after 8 rounds

Hapoel really picked up the pace, Partizan and Besiktas started dropping.
Some team stats :
Points per game
1 : Valencia Basket (97.5)
2 : Real Madrid (96.4)
3 : Hapoel Tel Aviv (93.5)
4 : Olympiacos (91.5)
5 : Barcelona (89.9)
Offensive rating
1 : Real Madrid (125.8)
2 : Valencia Basket (125.0)
3 : Barcelona (122.0)
4 : Olympiacos (121.2)
5 : Dubai (120.8)
Defensive rating
1 : Panathinaikos (102.4)
2 : KK Crvena Zvezda (104.2)
3 : Fenerbahce Beko (105.7)
4 : KK Partizan (107.7)
5 : Anadolu Efes (111.1)
Bottom 5 TEAM stats
Points per game
1 : KK Partizan (78.3)
2 : Fenerbahce Beko (80.4)
3 : Armani Milan (82.5)
4 : KK Crvena Zvezda (83.4)
5 : Baskonia (83.6)
Offensive rating
1 : KK Partizan (107.4)
2 : Baskonia (109.0)
3 : Anadolu Efes (109.4)
4 : KK Crvena Zvezda (112.1)
5 : Armani Milan (113.7)
Defensive rating
1 : Maccabi Tel Aviv (127.5)
2 : ASVEL Basket (127.0)
3 : Bayern Munich (125.5)
4 : Armani Milan (125.4)
5 : Baskonia (122.7)
PLAYER STATS
PPG.
1 : T.J. Shorts II (17.9)
2 : Sasha Vezenkov (17.9)
3 : Carsen Edwards (17.0)
4 : Dwayne Bacon (16.6)
5 : Kevin Punter (16.5)
RPG.
1 : Mfiondu Kabengele (7.8)
2 : Walter Tavares (7.8)
3 : Jonas Valanciunas (7.7)
4 : Aliou Diarra (7.1)
5 : Mathias Lessort (7.0)
APG.
1 : Chris Jones (6.1)
2 : Carlik Jones (5.9)
3 : T.J. Shorts II (5.8)
4 : Theo Maledon (5.6)
5 : Marcus Carr (5.4)
Player Index Rating PIR
1 : Elijah Bryant (24.0)
2 : Sasha Vezenkov (22.4)
3 : .J. Shorts II (21.1)
4 : Mathias Lessort (20.9)
5 : Jean Montero (20.3)
Defensive rating
1 : Mathias Lessort (96.2)
2 : Luca Vildoza (100.6)
3 : Jordan Nwora (100.8)
4 : Tyson Carter (101.6)
5 : Braxton Key (101.3)
Offensive rating
1 : Kai Jones (168.5)
2 : Leopold Cavaliere (158.9)
3 : Mouhamed Faye (156.8)
4 : Alberto Abalde (156.7)
5 : Tadas Sedekerskis (155.9)
Ediff
1 : Kai Jones (58.2)
2 : Mathias Lessort (42.2)
3 : Nikola Mirotic (40.3)
4 : Alberto Abalde (39.4)
5 : Mouhamed Faye (37.3)
PER
1 : Aliou Diarra (29.8)
2 : Nikola Mirotic (29.0)
3 : Mathias Lessort (27.5)
4 : Umoja Gibson (26.8)
5 : T.J. Shorts II (26.2)
Mathias Lessort would probably be MVP today.

Hapoel really picked up the pace, Partizan and Besiktas started dropping.
Some team stats :
Points per game
1 : Valencia Basket (97.5)
2 : Real Madrid (96.4)
3 : Hapoel Tel Aviv (93.5)
4 : Olympiacos (91.5)
5 : Barcelona (89.9)
Offensive rating
1 : Real Madrid (125.8)
2 : Valencia Basket (125.0)
3 : Barcelona (122.0)
4 : Olympiacos (121.2)
5 : Dubai (120.8)
Defensive rating
1 : Panathinaikos (102.4)
2 : KK Crvena Zvezda (104.2)
3 : Fenerbahce Beko (105.7)
4 : KK Partizan (107.7)
5 : Anadolu Efes (111.1)
Bottom 5 TEAM stats
Points per game
1 : KK Partizan (78.3)
2 : Fenerbahce Beko (80.4)
3 : Armani Milan (82.5)
4 : KK Crvena Zvezda (83.4)
5 : Baskonia (83.6)
Offensive rating
1 : KK Partizan (107.4)
2 : Baskonia (109.0)
3 : Anadolu Efes (109.4)
4 : KK Crvena Zvezda (112.1)
5 : Armani Milan (113.7)
Defensive rating
1 : Maccabi Tel Aviv (127.5)
2 : ASVEL Basket (127.0)
3 : Bayern Munich (125.5)
4 : Armani Milan (125.4)
5 : Baskonia (122.7)
PLAYER STATS
PPG.
1 : T.J. Shorts II (17.9)
2 : Sasha Vezenkov (17.9)
3 : Carsen Edwards (17.0)
4 : Dwayne Bacon (16.6)
5 : Kevin Punter (16.5)
RPG.
1 : Mfiondu Kabengele (7.8)
2 : Walter Tavares (7.8)
3 : Jonas Valanciunas (7.7)
4 : Aliou Diarra (7.1)
5 : Mathias Lessort (7.0)
APG.
1 : Chris Jones (6.1)
2 : Carlik Jones (5.9)
3 : T.J. Shorts II (5.8)
4 : Theo Maledon (5.6)
5 : Marcus Carr (5.4)
Player Index Rating PIR
1 : Elijah Bryant (24.0)
2 : Sasha Vezenkov (22.4)
3 : .J. Shorts II (21.1)
4 : Mathias Lessort (20.9)
5 : Jean Montero (20.3)
Defensive rating
1 : Mathias Lessort (96.2)
2 : Luca Vildoza (100.6)
3 : Jordan Nwora (100.8)
4 : Tyson Carter (101.6)
5 : Braxton Key (101.3)
Offensive rating
1 : Kai Jones (168.5)
2 : Leopold Cavaliere (158.9)
3 : Mouhamed Faye (156.8)
4 : Alberto Abalde (156.7)
5 : Tadas Sedekerskis (155.9)
Ediff
1 : Kai Jones (58.2)
2 : Mathias Lessort (42.2)
3 : Nikola Mirotic (40.3)
4 : Alberto Abalde (39.4)
5 : Mouhamed Faye (37.3)
PER
1 : Aliou Diarra (29.8)
2 : Nikola Mirotic (29.0)
3 : Mathias Lessort (27.5)
4 : Umoja Gibson (26.8)
5 : T.J. Shorts II (26.2)
Mathias Lessort would probably be MVP today.
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Jasikevičius always tries to play 5 out vs Real, to turn Tavares from defensive beast to defensive liability, but his shooting center, Sanli, has been awful today. Got to play with Melli and 4 perimeter players.
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