Re: Euroleague discussion thread
Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2017 8:35 pm
Zalgiris looks like a contender this year if they keep up like this. Props to Saras
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cruwinas wrote:Must win for "Žalgiris" today. Otherwise, the going will get much tougher.
mojo13 wrote:cruwinas wrote:Must win for "Žalgiris" today. Otherwise, the going will get much tougher.
Pangos with 10 assists in the first half against Valencia....wow...
UcanUwill wrote:Well, Zalgiris almost choke
cruwinas wrote:Lietuvos Rytas mad to Junior Euroleague Final 4. Good job, Lithuania. Though both "Žalgiris" and LR were worthy of the Final 4, I'm glad that even one of them made it.
Why I'm bringing this up? Cause "Žalgiris" and LR junior teams combined have 7-8 possible future NBA prospects. Maybe none of them will make into the NBA, but still, they will have good pro ball life (I hope).
UcanUwill wrote:cruwinas wrote:Lietuvos Rytas mad to Junior Euroleague Final 4. Good job, Lithuania. Though both "Žalgiris" and LR were worthy of the Final 4, I'm glad that even one of them made it.
Why I'm bringing this up? Cause "Žalgiris" and LR junior teams combined have 7-8 possible future NBA prospects. Maybe none of them will make into the NBA, but still, they will have good pro ball life (I hope).
Can you list some of those prospects? I am not familiar with any of them. I only heard Jokubaitis (spelling?) is decent, scored 31 on Lamelo Ball.
cruwinas wrote:UcanUwill wrote:cruwinas wrote:Lietuvos Rytas mad to Junior Euroleague Final 4. Good job, Lithuania. Though both "Žalgiris" and LR were worthy of the Final 4, I'm glad that even one of them made it.
Why I'm bringing this up? Cause "Žalgiris" and LR junior teams combined have 7-8 possible future NBA prospects. Maybe none of them will make into the NBA, but still, they will have good pro ball life (I hope).
Can you list some of those prospects? I am not familiar with any of them. I only heard Jokubaitis (spelling?) is decent, scored 31 on Lamelo Ball.
Trying to be funny? Let's just wait for the NBA scouts report to show up. I thought you were Lithuanian, if I'm mistaken - sorry for my abrupt retort
UcanUwill wrote:No, that was a genuine question, I am not familiar with those teams at all. Who are best prospects on those teams?
cruwinas wrote:UcanUwill wrote:No, that was a genuine question, I am not familiar with those teams at all. Who are best prospects on those teams?
Sorry about that, my bad
You just seem very knowledgeable in the International ball and certain Lithuanian players.
Junior "Žalgiris" have to interesting bigs in Ukrainian Markovetskyy (shooting problems, moves well, tall) and Bergaudas Giedrius (decent all around). Arlauskas is OK, already sees time with senior "Žalgiris" team. But... requirements for a SG-SF are very steep in todays world.
LR - Sirvydis was tournament MVP, already has a scouting report on DraftExpress. Marek Blaževič - could become a very decent PF (has all requirements). Jonas Paukštė - very raw, but 219 cm and still growing.
Time is pressing, I have my own "scouting report" in my head, will be able to elaborate more in the future.
Anyway, we are talking about kids 16-17 years old. We will have more data after Euro U18 this summer in Latvia:
https://www.fiba.basketball/europe/u18/2018
UcanUwill wrote:cruwinas wrote:UcanUwill wrote:No, that was a genuine question, I am not familiar with those teams at all. Who are best prospects on those teams?
Sorry about that, my bad
You just seem very knowledgeable in the International ball and certain Lithuanian players.
Junior "Žalgiris" have to interesting bigs in Ukrainian Markovetskyy (shooting problems, moves well, tall) and Bergaudas Giedrius (decent all around). Arlauskas is OK, already sees time with senior "Žalgiris" team. But... requirements for a SG-SF are very steep in todays world.
LR - Sirvydis was tournament MVP, already has a scouting report on DraftExpress. Marek Blaževič - could become a very decent PF (has all requirements). Jonas Paukštė - very raw, but 219 cm and still growing.
Time is pressing, I have my own "scouting report" in my head, will be able to elaborate more in the future.
Anyway, we are talking about kids 16-17 years old. We will have more data after Euro U18 this summer in Latvia:
https://www.fiba.basketball/europe/u18/2018
Thanks. I consider myself knowledgable on international ball, but 16-18 year olds has never been my specialty...
cruwinas wrote:UcanUwill wrote:cruwinas wrote:
Sorry about that, my bad
You just seem very knowledgeable in the International ball and certain Lithuanian players.
Junior "Žalgiris" have to interesting bigs in Ukrainian Markovetskyy (shooting problems, moves well, tall) and Bergaudas Giedrius (decent all around). Arlauskas is OK, already sees time with senior "Žalgiris" team. But... requirements for a SG-SF are very steep in todays world.
LR - Sirvydis was tournament MVP, already has a scouting report on DraftExpress. Marek Blaževič - could become a very decent PF (has all requirements). Jonas Paukštė - very raw, but 219 cm and still growing.
Time is pressing, I have my own "scouting report" in my head, will be able to elaborate more in the future.
Anyway, we are talking about kids 16-17 years old. We will have more data after Euro U18 this summer in Latvia:
https://www.fiba.basketball/europe/u18/2018
Thanks. I consider myself knowledgable on international ball, but 16-18 year olds has never been my specialty...
I like to look for the diamonds in a rough. And follow them later on. Some are early bloomers, some are late bloomers, some steady, getting better as years go by.
Some, sadly, don't reach the expectations.
Anyway, following teams and players gives great pleasure to me. Even if some future prospects are still in their diapers
UcanUwill wrote:cruwinas wrote:UcanUwill wrote:
Thanks. I consider myself knowledgable on international ball, but 16-18 year olds has never been my specialty...
I like to look for the diamonds in a rough. And follow them later on. Some are early bloomers, some are late bloomers, some steady, getting better as years go by.
Some, sadly, don't reach the expectations.
Anyway, following teams and players gives great pleasure to me. Even if some future prospects are still in their diapers
By far biggest disappointment in recent memory for me is Martynas Varnas. At age 18 that guy looked like a monster, not sure if that injury ruined him, or his shot realease was just too slow for him to translate to Pro level, but I projected him as a sure fire national team starter, how wrong I was.
cruwinas wrote:Long arms, good shooter, very athletic and competitive. I think injury messed him up.
Same was with me. Though I was not bball player, but last injury took all the wind from my sails.
I am happy for Ulanovas. He looked well alongside JV and others in "Golden team", injury slowed him down, but steadily he is getting pretty good (especially this season).
Grigonis has same issues, but so far everything looks to be OK.