Nikola Mirotic

[sergiio_88]

Nikola Mirotic is a 6'10'' PF. He was born in 1991 in Montenegro, but he has got a Spanish citizenship and he plays in Real Madrid.

I think he will be easily a lottery pick in the NBA draft. It's better than other european prospects.



His stats in ACB:
http://www.acb.com/stspartidojug.php?co ... edicion=55

His stats in Euroleague:
http://www.euroleague.net/competition/p ... mecode=133


What do you think about this player?

[brassviews]

He's a below average athlete. Most teams are looking for athleticism. So yeah, I doubt he's taken in the lottery. Maybe mid first?

I would rank international players as follow:

1. Jonas Valanciunas
2. Bojan Bogdanovic
3. Enes Kanter
4. Jan Vesely
5. Donatas Motiejunas
6. Tomislav Zubcic
7. Nikola Mirotic
8. Milan Macvan
9. Leon Radosevic
10. Kostas Papanikolaou

[sergiio_88]

In my opinion:


Jonas Valanciunas
Nikola Mirotic
Jan Vesely
Enes Kanter
Milan Macvan
Donatas Motiejunas
Tomislav Zubcic
Leon Radosevic
Kostas Papanikolaou
Pablo Aguilar
Furkan Aldemir
Augusto Lima
Giorgi Shermadini
Mario Delas
Bismack Biyombo

[droponov]

Anyone watched today's game?

His aggressiveness, his willingness to take big shots, is quite impressive. Even more when he has the skills to back it up.

[Cammo101]

Mirotic is a nice player, but the lottery is a giant leap. He should be happy to land in the first round.

[droponov]

I doubt he declares for the draft this season. If he doesn't, I'm not sure he isn't lottery material, considering the type of production he's been putting up lately. Extremely intriguing combination of skills + length.

[brassviews]

At this point, I think he's a lock for the first round. He's just playing too well to not garner attention.

Tomorrow's game against Barcelona should help his stock further.

[JustMagic]

Well being young, tall and playing good basketball in a high european level is probably enough to be drafted in the 1st round (atleast in most year). However I doubt it he would make a good NBA player. He just not athletic or phisical enough, in my opinion.

[LookingAround]

Some videos of the guy:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-yJ2CP1ITw[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Wl3fbOwJF4[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UKOcDOzm7Dc[/youtube]
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEQp7u4aiFc[/youtube]

[kuhane gace]

It's better than other european prospects.

I must say from draft avaible players he is best.

this is my personal wiev on prospects that i watched (i didn't see kanter to much so i won't coment him)

1. Mirotic.....he may be just average athlete, but has complete skill set to play inside out side. what's more importan those skills are not raw talent, he knows how to use them on court and poses great mentality, feal and spirit for game. Those things are so underated when scouting players. For me he is closest thing come to Dirk Nowitzki in years. He already plays great for among best teams in Europe. For him would be better to stay one more in europe where I epect him to become among best players in europe

2. Moteijunas.....by raw skill set he is there with Mirotic with better athletic abilitys, but unlike Mirotic still doesn't know how to use them 100% and doesn't poses his mentality and feal for game. Showed some hot head attitude

3. Vesely....potetially new Kirilenko. To bad that he doesn't have go to mentality and insticts

4. Bogdanovic....most coplete guard prospect in years. can score on evrey way guard can with his skill set. has great first step, and his off hand is impresive, perhaps even is better finishing with left. unlike other europrospects he has good strenght. perhaps most ready prospect. on bad side he might be to tall for guard wich suits him more then forward position, latheral quicknes and average athleticley. shoves to much love in shooting and his defensive intensity this year is very questionable just like shelfishnes

5. Shermadini....similar to motejunas by raw potential and skills, but also has similar problem with understanding how to use that on court

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[kuhane gace]

6. Valenciunas.....Maybe I'm wrong but I must say I don't see him as great NBA prospect, more suited to be dominate force in europe. He has decent defensive NBA potential, but his skill set is quite limimited, while athleticly he is average. on other hand he has that poise for game that makes you are sure this kid will make it. At least he needs one more year in europe

7.. Benzig....kid with lot of raw potential, but unconsistant and perhaps lacks of nastynes to dominate

8.. Radosevic....not most talented but fighter and hard working guy. average athleticly, but his latherall quicknes, motoric abilitys, frame and fighting spirit makes him great defensive potentiall. on ofense very limited, but developed relible midrange shoot wich helped him to be very good player for pick as he has very good roll. slovley developing few specialls to

9. Papanikolau.....could develop in world class role player

10. Musli....traditional positional, defensive big man, but lacks of athletic abilitys and more speed, skill set

11. Nedovic...grat athleticly, but doesn't have vision and feal for game wich is most important thing for playmaker

12. Macvan...among best young players, but just not suited for NBA

13. Zubcic...by raw potential among most taleted, but not having position, frame, not to big iq and hot head atitude i don't see him making it in NBA

this is my wiev on best young players i had chance to see anuff to rate them. Some others udereated prospects that have some small chances to finish in NBA that i had watch: D. Planinic, I. Batur, D Milosavljevic, Muric brothers

[naumoski]

I opened a similar thread in Draft Forum. Didn't know this threard.

I copy-paste:

Remember this name:

NIKOLA MIROTIC - 2,09 meters - - 20 years - 1st proffesional season in an european front-runner team.

http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=000796
[url]
http://www.acb.com/stspartidojug.php?co ... edicion=55[/url]

Since December the guy is showing he could maybe be a not too distant version of Dirk Nowitzki. Maybe more probably, a more versatile and less quick version of Andrea Bargani.

Characteristics:

- Great opened shooter, over all.

- He can play near the basket, altough he rarely does it. This improvement would be KEY to become a real star.

- He can penetrate to the basket, if his shoot is going to be block.

- Skilled and skillful.

- Clever, not problematic guy.

- Not very ahtletic, but enough large to block and deffend near the basket.


He probably would be not elegible this draft, because he needs more baggage and I think he is under contract for at least two years.

Surely he will be in Spanish National Team this summer.

[droponov]

Forget about defense.

How do you think Mirotic's pedestrian athleticism will affect his shot-creation in the NBA if anything at all? Looking at the kind of shots and plays he makes, how will he be able to translate that game to the NBA? More of his shots are going to be contested in any case, does he make contested shots at a good clip? Is his first step and ball-handling, especially going left, good enough to be a creator off the dribble? The answers to these questions define how good of a NBA prospect Mirotic is. His defense will always be very subpar, from horrific (he'll probably avoid that) to just a bit below average (he probably won't reach this ceiling either).

[naumoski]

Mirotic is just 20 years old, he is in his first professional season and inside a team with high level where he is mainly ordered for open shots (what he does greatly). Unfortunately he is not asked to do other things.

Mirotic is not in a team without pressure, where his mistakes can be forgiven. He takes parts in matches that are decisive continuosly (TOP 16, "Copa del Rey", ...).

It is obvious he needs to show us or improve more post movements. And the same in penetration the basket.

Regarding to his defense:

- In european terms his defense is not bad at all. He is even above average. He can blocks shots, and has quick hands to steal. He is intelligent in defense.


droponov, let him two years to develop his offensive game and to be more phisically in defense (just 20 years). Then, we'll check if he is NBA level. I bet yes.

[kuhane gace]

Forget about defense.

How do you think Mirotic's pedestrian athleticism will affect his shot-creation in the NBA if anything at all? Looking at the kind of shots and plays he makes, how will he be able to translate that game to the NBA? More of his shots are going to be contested in any case, does he make contested shots at a good clip? Is his first step and ball-handling, especially going left, good enough to be a creator off the dribble? The answers to these questions define how good of a NBA prospect Mirotic is. His defense will always be very subpar, from horrific (he'll probably avoid that) to just a bit below average (he probably won't reach this ceiling either).

bird, duncun, barkley, webb, rodman, nash, love?

evry player has his weekneses and streghts. the best ones are those who have less weekneses and know how how to hide them as much as posible and more streghts and know how how to use them as much as posible. to hide and use your wkneses and strenghts you have to have smarts, feal and insticts, heart and passion for game, creativity, determenation and mental toghnes those things are so much overlooked by many of those "draft journalists" and he has that

on ofense he has corect speed, below average first step when you compare him with amare, but ok overall, very good agility, great foot work and below average leaping ability. from tehnical part he has great ball handling, great ability to shoot (high and quick relese) wiith feet set alone or over oponent and corect ability to shoot with small drible with potetial to improve that on bit higher level. he has fundumetaly great drives to let and right with few fakes in his arsenal to and can finish them on ok level. he has great foot work in post with lot of moves and feal along with his abilitiy to pas for cuters or kick out. he has great fundumentals and feal for rolles and pops on pick, cuts or geting open when others create. great feal to reabonding to and corect creativity. pick ups tactics great individually or team ones

for defense you have to have athletic abilitiys (big stating advatage, but not all things important) fundumentals, toghnes, timeings, willingnes, insticts, smarts and feal for game. he dosnt stand in athletic abilitys. doesnt have huge wingspan, his latheral quicknes is poor same as leaping ability and explosive leaping ability. he has corect speed and frame that he can ad weight not to be total libility and very good agility and corect foot work. from tehnical part he has great fundamentals in positionig, boxing out and contesting shoots. but his feal, smarts and instics to read plays, toghnes and willingnes, corect timiengs for blocks and steals, grat feal for rebounding and positionig, competitivnes and toghnes can make up nut to be to big libility. pick ups tactics great individualy and team ones

giving all his atributes that he has and hdont have and what heshown in mental, athleticley, tehnicley ad aproach to game so far i'm sure he has great future in NBA ahed of him, the best ones from euro guys that could be drafted thish year (i'm not counting kanter as i havent see to much of him)

[LookingAround]

Good post kuhane gace. I totally agree.

[droponov]

Forget about defense.

How do you think Mirotic's pedestrian athleticism will affect his shot-creation in the NBA if anything at all? Looking at the kind of shots and plays he makes, how will he be able to translate that game to the NBA? More of his shots are going to be contested in any case, does he make contested shots at a good clip? Is his first step and ball-handling, especially going left, good enough to be a creator off the dribble? The answers to these questions define how good of a NBA prospect Mirotic is. His defense will always be very subpar, from horrific (he'll probably avoid that) to just a bit below average (he probably won't reach this ceiling either).

bird, duncun, barkley, webb, rodman, nash, love?

evry player has his weekneses and streghts. the best ones are those who have less weekneses and know how how to hide them as much as posible and more streghts and know how how to use them as much as posible. to hide and use your wkneses and strenghts you have to have smarts, feal and insticts, heart and passion for game, creativity, determenation and mental toghnes those things are so much overlooked by many of those "draft journalists" and he has that

I fully agree. But at the end of the day, your strengths need to be strong enough to compensate for your weaknesses?

What about guys like Jasikevicius, Danilovic, Đorđević, Navarro?
Or Papaloukas and Bodiroga?
Or D'Or Fischer, Trajan Langdon and Chuck Eidson?

Can't you say the same thing about every single one of them?

on ofense he has corect speed, below average first step when you compare him with amare, but ok overall, very good agility, great foot work and below average leaping ability. from tehnical part he has great ball handling, great ability to shoot (high and quick relese) wiith feet set alone or over oponent and corect ability to shoot with small drible with potetial to improve that on bit higher level.he has fundumetaly great drives to let and right with few fakes in his arsenal to and can finish them on ok level. he has great foot work in post with lot of moves and feal along with his abilitiy to pas for cuters or kick out. he has great fundumentals and feal for rolles and pops on pick, cuts or geting open when others create. great feal to reabonding to and corect creativity. pick ups tactics great individually or team ones

He struggles dribbling going left. Dribbles too high and lacks advanced ball-handling moves in traffic. Maybe he's an okay finisher, but he needs to be stronger to not get his shot blocked all the time in the NBA. When he needs to pick up his dribble quickly because there's someone reaching in and fires, his failure rate in pull-ups is much higher. He has good instincts reading the flight off the ball but he's not explosive leaving the floor nor does he have a quick second jump. Lacks the body strength to hold position too. He'll be a rebounding liability for the time being.

for defense you have to have athletic abilitiys (big stating advatage, but not all things important) fundumentals, toghnes, timeings, willingnes, insticts, smarts and feal for game. he dosnt stand in athletic abilitys. doesnt have huge wingspan, his latheral quicknes is poor same as leaping ability and explosive leaping ability. he has corect speed and frame that he can ad weight not to be total libility and very good agility and corect foot work. from tehnical part he has great fundamentals in positionig, boxing out and contesting shoots. but his feal, smarts and instics to read plays, toghnes and willingnes, corect timiengs for blocks and steals, grat feal for rebounding and positionig, competitivnes and toghnes can make up nut to be to big libility. pick ups tactics great individualy and team ones

Agreed, that's why I said he'll avoid being an horrific defender. Solid intincts and fundamentals. But NBA defense is so much about having the athletic ability that he'll always be below average.

giving all his atributes that he has and hdont have and what heshown in mental, athleticley, tehnicley ad aproach to game so far i'm sure he has great future in NBA ahed of him, the best ones from euro guys that could be drafted thish year (i'm not counting kanter as i havent see to much of him)

Without counting Kanter either, I'd pick Valanciunas ahead of Mirotic.