Where in Europe is the next Danilo Gallinari?

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Where in Europe is the next Danilo Gallinari? 

Post#1 » by Kashy_Tigray » Fri Apr 1, 2011 9:28 pm

Every NBA scout is searching Europe to find the next Gallinari.

Where could he be besides Italy?
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Post#2 » by brassviews » Sat Apr 2, 2011 12:55 am

A guy who chucks shots and occasionally drives to the basket? There are a lot in Europe. But I say there are better players in Europe than Gallinari.

Jan Vesely, for instance, plays the same position as Gallinari. However, he's a much more complete player with more potential. He's a NBA type of player.

Then, you have young players of the future. Dario Saric is one of the best. He's 6'9 with point guard skills. He's the Croatian Magic basically.
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Re: Where in Europe is the next Danilo Gallinari? 

Post#3 » by karolis1221 » Sat Apr 2, 2011 9:26 am

Kashy_Tigray wrote:Every NBA scout is searching Europe to find the next Gallinari.

Where could he be besides Italy?


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Re: Where in Europe is the next Danilo Gallinari? 

Post#4 » by Toxicity » Sat Apr 2, 2011 10:07 pm

There isn't a young guy in Europe with his handling skills at 6-11... but it's too early to seek "the next Gallinari" since Danilo has still to put it all together.
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Post#5 » by EuroFan » Sat Apr 2, 2011 11:53 pm

Kashy_Tigray wrote:Every NBA scout is searching Europe to find the next Gallinari.

Where could he be besides Italy?

Where? San Marino maybe...
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Re: Where in Europe is the next Danilo Gallinari? 

Post#6 » by Rasho Brezec » Sun Apr 3, 2011 12:01 am

brassviews wrote:A guy who chucks shots and occasionally drives to the basket? There are a lot in Europe. But I say there are better players in Europe than Gallinari.

Jan Vesely, for instance, plays the same position as Gallinari. However, he's a much more complete player with more potential. He's a NBA type of player.

Then, you have young players of the future. Dario Saric is one of the best. He's 6'9 with point guard skills. He's the Croatian Magic basically.

I can't tell if you're just mocking the OP or you're being serious.
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Post#7 » by sergiio_88 » Sun Apr 3, 2011 12:55 am

Victor Claver (drafted by Blazers) and Jan Vesely are the best young SF in Europe, but they are a different kind of player than Gallinari.
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Post#8 » by Macho » Tue Apr 5, 2011 6:20 am

What the? it's not like Gallinari is Dirk or Gasol, hes just an average NBA player.
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Post#9 » by Toxicity » Tue Apr 5, 2011 7:52 am

But there isn't a single young guy in Europe resembling him... he's special and you have to be blind not to see that.
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Post#10 » by Rasho Brezec » Tue Apr 5, 2011 8:16 am

Sure he's average. Like the rest of the 6'11 SF's that play in the NBA.
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Post#11 » by droponov » Tue Apr 5, 2011 4:40 pm

brassviews wrote:A guy who chucks shots and occasionally drives to the basket? There are a lot in Europe. But I say there are better players in Europe than Gallinari.


You need to see him more. Gallinari is a highly efficient scorer and a fairly versatile player and I doubt that right now there's a better player than him in Europe (at least one equiped to play better in the NBA). Who are you thinking about?

Jan Vesely, for instance, plays the same position as Gallinari. However, he's a much more complete player with more potential. He's a NBA type of player.


Absurd. Vesely's potential is as an elite role-player. Which may make him better than Gallinari. But more complete? Vesely defends better than Gallinari, that's pretty much it.

Then, you have young players of the future. Dario Saric is one of the best. He's 6'9 with point guard skills. He's the Croatian Magic basically.


Every other year there's a new Kukoc or a Crotian Magic or whatever. How many times have you seen him playing? Saric is more of a Croatian Larry Bird, if you want to use that type of comparison.
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Re: Where in Europe is the next Danilo Gallinari? 

Post#12 » by kuhane gace » Tue Apr 5, 2011 10:07 pm

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brassviews wrote:A guy who chucks shots and occasionally drives to the basket? There are a lot in Europe. But I say there are better players in Europe than Gallinari.


You need to see him more. Gallinari is a highly efficient scorer and a fairly versatile player and I doubt that right now there's a better player than him in Europe (at least one equiped to play better in the NBA). Who are you thinking about?

Jan Vesely, for instance, plays the same position as Gallinari. However, he's a much more complete player with more potential. He's a NBA type of player.


Absurd. Vesely's potential is as an elite role-player. Which may make him better than Gallinari. But more complete? Vesely defends better than Gallinari, that's pretty much it.

Then, you have young players of the future. Dario Saric is one of the best. He's 6'9 with point guard skills. He's the Croatian Magic basically.


Every other year there's a new Kukoc or a Crotian Magic or whatever. How many times have you seen him playing? Saric is more of a Croatian Larry Bird, if you want to use that type of comparison.



turkoglu is better then danilo. gallinari is veritile talent, but rarley uses his full potential in other areas besides scoring, mostley from perimeter

of corse just like in us where people looking for new jordan, magic...the same way media and fans looking for new petrovic, cosic, kukoc or radja in croatia....however saric looks "real" by talent and more inportant character...but i do agree about comparison. he does remind more to bird than toni by playing stayle, or something betwen those two
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Post#13 » by droponov » Thu Apr 7, 2011 3:38 pm

Maybe Turkoglu is better, but he's in Orlando, not in Europe. It was "players in Europe", not Europeans. And I'm not sure why people believe Gallinari is just a perimeter shooter, he draws fouls at a fairly high rate (15th in FTA per 36 amongst those who play more than 20mpg), he's solid defensively, decent rebounder... if anything, Hedo is more one-dimensional, his only high-level talent is making plays off the pick'n'roll.

I've only seen Saric a couple of times. He looked an interesting prospect. But not a PG, in spite of having good passing skills and nice ball-handling for his size. At least in those games he was playing as a wing and a fair amount of time off-the-ball. That's why I found the Magic comparison odd.
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Post#14 » by kuhane gace » Sat Apr 9, 2011 11:09 am

I also don't think he will develope as prime PG, especially this days when there is so many turbo fast PG and where drive and kick is so much used in tactics. It would be so hard to protect the ball and consistantley penetrate to basket. But with his icredible feal for game, IQ and passing abilitys that only rare players had he could defenetly be some kind of playmaker. It will depend also how much he will grove. This season he played in 3 difrent roles. In Zagreb senior team he was used just for screens and ocasionally to shoot from corner. In KK Dubrava on loan he mostley plays at PF do to lack of size, at times at PG and C. But in last minutes you can always see him takeing ball in his hands. In Zagreb junior team he dominates ball.

For me the way he plays is something betwen young Kukoc and Bird. Bit more athletic version Bodiroga might be best description of type of player that he is

Thing that I realy don't like is what his club Zagreb does with him, playing so many games with so many difrent roles leaving him not much time to practice. At times in mournig he plays for their junior team, then goes across town to play with Dubrava. And it will continiue at summer where he will again be part of 2 youth teams
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Post#15 » by droponov » Sun Apr 10, 2011 1:43 am

kuhane gace wrote:Thing that I realy don't like is what his club Zagreb does with him, playing so many games with so many difrent roles leaving him not much time to practice. At times in mournig he plays for their junior team, then goes across town to play with Dubrava. And it will continiue at summer where he will again be part of 2 youth teams


Yeah, I don't like that either. I think that's one of the biggest problems we're having right now developing players, if not he biggest, there are just too many games, too much competition. To make things worse, there's this habit of having top prospects playing in categories above their age level. Meaning smaller roles, they see the ball even less, they participate in basketball action even less.

Kids need touches, they need to maximize the amount of time they're actually improving their skills with a basketball on their hands - or, at least, very close to their hands. Games mean a huge amount of time wasted in stuff that doesn't help kids to develop their skill-set at all - travelling, dressing, listening to the coach talking about the other team,, looking at guys making free-throws, running up and down the court, minutes and minutes of running that translate into a couple of shots, a pass, some defensive action, a rebound... there's only 1 ball for 10 players. And in a set that the coach can't just stop to make corrections, where the risk of developing bad habits is much higher, where's it's tougher for the coaches to pay attention to how they're executing because they're worried with the result. That time would be much better used for3x3 or individual drills... you need 10 hours of game action to reproduce what you can do with 1 hour of well-executed drills.

Of course what they learn in games, in competition, including all those things, are hugely important for their development, but 30 games per season are already more than enough. After a few they start offering diminishing returns. And yet, it's becoming a habit all over Europe to have kids playing 2 per week, 40,50, 60 games per year. It's absurd - not even healthy from a mental or physical perspective. We need to sacrifice games to have more time to practice without burning the kids. Maximize touches in an environment where the attention is in the execution and not in some score-board.

Also, I hope Saric develops into a different player than Bodiroga.
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Post#16 » by kuhane gace » Tue Apr 12, 2011 8:36 pm

just got back from US and had 23+10+5 in win over Alkar and tomorow he will join junior Zagreb team and play 4 games in semifinal tornament of Croatian junor championship. Crazy. But that's why he will make it. most of kids and players this days would ask some excuse from hard trip, Dario enjoying evrey secend of playing basketball
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Re: Where in Europe is the next Danilo Gallinari? 

Post#17 » by TheSerbianKnick » Thu May 5, 2011 1:54 am

droponov wrote:
Also, I hope Saric develops into a different player than Bodiroga.


WTF is that supposed to mean, Dejan Bodiroga was a beast. Best Serbian player ever. Better than Stojakovic, Divac or Danilovic (only ones that actually had big careers in NBA).
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So your comment of you hoping of someone not developing in Bodiroga must be cause you hate him or something. He was one of the best.
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Re: Where in Europe is the next Danilo Gallinari? 

Post#18 » by Import » Thu Jun 2, 2011 8:46 pm

Jan Vesely? :-?
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Post#19 » by sisibilio » Sat Jun 4, 2011 5:46 pm

TheSerbianKnick wrote:
droponov wrote:
Also, I hope Saric develops into a different player than Bodiroga.


WTF is that supposed to mean, Dejan Bodiroga was a beast. Best Serbian player ever. Better than Stojakovic, Divac or Danilovic (only ones that actually had big careers in NBA).

Wrong.
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Re: Where in Europe is the next Danilo Gallinari? 

Post#20 » by aroba » Mon Jul 25, 2011 8:07 am

Nikola Mirotic is 6-10 and surely best under 20 european player right now, as just shown in U20 Eurobasket

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