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Post#1 » by Vindicater » Sun May 29, 2011 11:11 am

If Irving decides to play for Australia due to the competition at the point guard spot in America...

Does Australia have the talent to win a medal behind a Bogut/Irving pairing?
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Post#2 » by brassviews » Sun May 29, 2011 4:40 pm

It depends on how good Irving is.

By the way, it's interesting that he has Australian citizenship. I thought he was only American.
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Post#3 » by karolis1221 » Mon May 30, 2011 5:54 pm

Vindicater wrote:If Irving decides to play for Australia due to the competition at the point guard spot in America...

Does Australia have the talent to win a medal behind a Bogut/Irving pairing?


You have mati nielsen,ingles,david andersen some random guy from blazers forgot his name lol, im sure there is more good players just dont remember now,everybodie has a chanse for medals , except you meet USA in your way than you need talent:D
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Post#4 » by sisibilio » Mon May 30, 2011 9:14 pm

Patty Mills. And there is also Aleks Maric.
Even if Irving is the real deal, his problem is that the wings outside of Ingles are just meh, i don't know if they have some promising youngsters though. And Nielsen and Andersen are over 30, they'll play in the Olympics next season but not much more and that could take away his inside depth which is his biggest strength now.
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Post#5 » by sisibilio » Mon May 30, 2011 9:16 pm

karolis1221 wrote:
Vindicater wrote:If Irving decides to play for Australia due to the competition at the point guard spot in America...

Does Australia have the talent to win a medal behind a Bogut/Irving pairing?


You have mati nielsen,ingles,david andersen some random guy from blazers forgot his name lol, im sure there is more good players just dont remember now,everybodie has a chanse for medals , except you meet USA in your way than you need talent:D

They'd be still waaaaay behind Spain, and Argentina if Ginobili and co play.
Also Lithuania, Greece, Brazil, Turkey or Serbia are stronger IMHO.
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Post#6 » by jolbin » Tue May 31, 2011 9:59 am

Vindicater wrote:If Irving decides to play for Australia due to the competition at the point guard spot in America...

Does Australia have the talent to win a medal behind a Bogut/Irving pairing?

Not even close..
USA, Spain, Greece, Serbia, Slovenija, Lithuania, Turkey, Brazil, Argentina and arguably France and Croatia are all better
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Post#7 » by karolis1221 » Tue May 31, 2011 11:33 am

Most important is group stage if you pass it than everything possible, you cant say oh spain or argentina is better we all seen them at world championship and 1 bad day for argentina. Playoffs is 1 bad day and you go home its not like NBA where you playing 7games series. With kyrie irwing Australia may have best point guard(but we dont know yet) and center in olympics if we dont count USA, pau gasol is old, ricky is bust,tony parker is old,scola is old,diamantis is not playing, who else are/or going to be better? teodosic? Valanciunas? marc gasol? enes kanter?ukic
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Post#8 » by freestyler34 » Tue May 31, 2011 3:20 pm

Leave alone Irving and Bogut, even if u had a change to choose any 2 players from NBA instead of them, still that team wont medal IMO.
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Post#9 » by jolbin » Tue May 31, 2011 8:31 pm

I would take a PG rotation of Dragič/Lakovič over Irving/Mills, specially for FIBA rules.. Mills proved nothing last championships..
Also, i would take Teodosič over Irving anyday of the week if we are talking about Fiba rules and style of play..
Australias bigmen rotation cant challenge Spains (Gasol Gasol Reyes Ibaka), Brazil (Varejao,Splitter)..
Australia would be good on paper, but they would still be far away from contention.. You need to have a deep team on WCHs/Oympics.. You cant only win with a rotation of what, 6/7 players..
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Post#10 » by karolis1221 » Wed Jun 1, 2011 6:36 pm

jolbin wrote:I would take a PG rotation of Dragič/Lakovič over Irving/Mills, specially for FIBA rules.. Mills proved nothing last championships..
Also, i would take Teodosič over Irving anyday of the week if we are talking about Fiba rules and style of play..
Australias bigmen rotation cant challenge Spains (Gasol Gasol Reyes Ibaka), Brazil (Varejao,Splitter)..
Australia would be good on paper, but they would still be far away from contention.. You need to have a deep team on WCHs/Oympics.. You cant only win with a rotation of what, 6/7 players..


OK. Maybe they shouldnt play at all, whats the point to play if you not going to win? there was many underdog victorie stories in sports, tournament is not your typical NBA season, any scrub can shine at olympics or world championships and superstar may suck big thats a fact.
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Post#11 » by jolbin » Thu Jun 2, 2011 12:40 pm

They should why not.. At least with that squad they wouldnt be crushed with such differences as at last wc..
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Post#12 » by coachblood » Sat Jun 11, 2011 3:47 am

This article says Irving has declined offers to play for Australia and committed to team USA.
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Post#13 » by Kate786 » Mon Jul 4, 2011 11:37 am

jolbin wrote:They should why not.. At least with that squad they wouldnt be crushed with such differences as at last wc..

yeah exactly dude i agree with you.....:)

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Post#14 » by AussieBuck » Tue Jul 12, 2011 3:26 am

jolbin wrote:Australias bigmen rotation cant challenge Brazil (Varejao,Splitter)..

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Post#15 » by Grits n Gravy » Wed Jul 13, 2011 8:32 am

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jolbin wrote:Australias bigmen rotation cant challenge Brazil (Varejao,Splitter)..

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


why would you laugh at that? he forgot to mention nene
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Post#16 » by AussieBuck » Thu Jul 14, 2011 2:06 am

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jolbin wrote:Australias bigmen rotation cant challenge Brazil (Varejao,Splitter)..

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


why would you laugh at that? he forgot to mention nene

Because it's laughable?
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Post#17 » by Grits n Gravy » Thu Jul 14, 2011 4:26 am

AussieBuck wrote:
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jolbin wrote:Australias bigmen rotation cant challenge Brazil (Varejao,Splitter)..

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


why would you laugh at that? he forgot to mention nene

Because it's laughable?[/quote]

really? what bigs can aussie put out to come close to matching up with those 3?
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Post#18 » by dano81 » Fri Jul 22, 2011 12:01 am

Not sure what's so funny. The Brazilians have a great bigman rotation..
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Post#19 » by redred9 » Wed Sep 14, 2011 1:33 am

Grits n Gravy wrote:really? what bigs can aussie put out to come close to matching up with those 3?


the Aussies have big men talent in spades, it's the guards who are the problem there (unless Kyrie Irving gets his clearance in time.. and even then, he's all of what.. 20?)
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