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The Steve Clifford Thread 2.0 - Off the Cliff we go

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Re: The Steve Clifford Thread 2.0 - Officially Fired 

Post#841 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Wed May 30, 2018 5:23 pm

Hornet Mania wrote:All the Magic fans I've spoken to in real life (and read on the GB) are still very upset at the way Howard exited. It's questionable at best whether that reunion would help or hurt fan support. A couple of the Orlando faithful I know are actually season ticket holders and they're on the fence about renewing (but probably will, given the 6th pick should be an exciting player) they both also said point-blank if Howard comes back their season tickets will not be picked back up and they likely won't be buying them in the future either.

Cliff's interview where he talked about Dwight not buying in on defense would also be a big deal. I'm willing to bet that Cliff wouldn't want Dwight again. I could be wrong ... maybe he thinks it works out on a younger team like Orlando will be ... but my sense is that the Cliff/Dwight days are over.
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Re: The Steve Clifford Thread 2.0 - Officially Fired 

Post#842 » by LofJ » Wed May 30, 2018 7:33 pm

The Magic front office implied in their Clifford introductory press conference that our teams under him did the best they reasonably could, but didn't perform any better because the roster lacked talent. Compared to the upper tier of the league I'd certainly agree that we lack talent, but the Magic guys throwing stones at our roster makes me a little angry.

To Clifford's credit he has a lot more tact than that. I was glad the team moved on from him, but I still wish him well as long as he's not playing the Hornets.
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Re: The Steve Clifford Thread 2.0 - Officially Fired 

Post#843 » by TreasureCoast » Wed May 30, 2018 7:37 pm

LofJ wrote:The Magic front office implied in their Clifford introductory press conference that our teams under him did the best they reasonably could, but didn't perform any better because the roster lacked talent. Compared to the upper tier of the league I'd certainly agree that we lack talent, but the Magic guys throwing stones at our roster makes me a little angry.

To Clifford's credit he has a lot more tact than that. I was glad the team moved on from him, but I still wish him well as long as he's not playing the Hornets.

You guys clearly have way more talent than us. Honestly if that is what our front office has to say to bolster good opinion of their new hire then we are in big trouble! It was an unprofessional and untrue assessment to make for sure! I can tell you I'd take Borrego back right now!
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Re: The Steve Clifford Thread 2.0 - Officially Fired 

Post#844 » by DY_nasty » Wed May 30, 2018 10:18 pm

LofJ wrote:The Magic front office implied in their Clifford introductory press conference that our teams under him did the best they reasonably could, but didn't perform any better because the roster lacked talent. Compared to the upper tier of the league I'd certainly agree that we lack talent, but the Magic guys throwing stones at our roster makes me a little angry.

To Clifford's credit he has a lot more tact than that. I was glad the team moved on from him, but I still wish him well as long as he's not playing the Hornets.

naw its fair
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Re: The Steve Clifford Thread 2.0 - Officially Fired 

Post#845 » by LofJ » Wed May 30, 2018 11:50 pm

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LofJ wrote:The Magic front office implied in their Clifford introductory press conference that our teams under him did the best they reasonably could, but didn't perform any better because the roster lacked talent. Compared to the upper tier of the league I'd certainly agree that we lack talent, but the Magic guys throwing stones at our roster makes me a little angry.

To Clifford's credit he has a lot more tact than that. I was glad the team moved on from him, but I still wish him well as long as he's not playing the Hornets.

naw its fair


We'll find out one way or the other this coming season.
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Re: The Steve Clifford Thread 2.0 - Officially Fired 

Post#846 » by Eoghan » Thu May 31, 2018 1:17 am

*ring ring ring*

"Maxiell residence, this is Jason speaking."

"Um, well, you know, it's Steve, um I'm coaching the Magic now and well, we've got a lot of kids on this roster and, well, the veterans in this league will tell you this, they're too busy playing Nintendo to pick up the plays so I'm gonna, um, need some veterans. You in?"

"Uhhh, I've been out of the league for years, I don't think I've got anything left in the tank."

"Ah c'mon, you can't be much more out of shape since I had you in Charlotte, you been playing any at all?"

"Well, I joined a pickleball league at the Rec Center..."

"Um, well, that's great. I need you to play over this African kid again. He's always talking about books, really annoying. Patrick never read anything, not even a street sign, you gotta buy in to basketball, that's what the vets will tell you, you know?"
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Re: The Steve Clifford Thread 2.0 - Officially Fired 

Post#847 » by DY_nasty » Thu May 31, 2018 2:38 am

LofJ wrote:
DY_nasty wrote:
LofJ wrote:The Magic front office implied in their Clifford introductory press conference that our teams under him did the best they reasonably could, but didn't perform any better because the roster lacked talent. Compared to the upper tier of the league I'd certainly agree that we lack talent, but the Magic guys throwing stones at our roster makes me a little angry.

To Clifford's credit he has a lot more tact than that. I was glad the team moved on from him, but I still wish him well as long as he's not playing the Hornets.

naw its fair


We'll find out one way or the other this coming season.

i mean..... i doubt next season we'll have treveon graham and mcw stealing minutes from clearly better players
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Re: The Steve Clifford Thread 2.0 - Officially Fired 

Post#848 » by Jaxfann » Fri Jun 1, 2018 12:03 am

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amcoolio wrote:Wonder what the Magic are giving us for Dwight, its almost too perfect a fit now that his biggest fan is down there and its his original team

Yeah, feels like that has to be an interesting proposition for them. He can give them the same sales pitch that we got for Big Al - Cliff can design a system around him that can elevate them to respectability while simultaneously building stability for the franchise. Not sure how attractive that would be for them.


I think it will be very attractive to them. It may have even been a factor for hiring Clifford in the first place. . The question on our side is what would we want from them?


"I have little doubt that they'd be happy to bring Dwight back to Orlando"

Uh - no!
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Re: The Steve Clifford Thread 2.0 - Officially Fired 

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Post#850 » by fatlever » Mon Jun 4, 2018 7:37 pm

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Re: The Steve Clifford Thread 2.0 - Officially Fired 

Post#851 » by yosemiteben » Mon Jun 4, 2018 11:21 pm

Stephen Silas almost definitively parting ways.
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Post#852 » by LofJ » Mon Jun 4, 2018 11:47 pm

yosemiteben wrote:Stephen Silas almost definitively parting ways.


He's the lead assistant for Carlisle in Dallas already, he definitely upgraded.
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Re: The Steve Clifford Thread 2.0 - Officially Fired 

Post#853 » by yosemiteben » Mon Jun 4, 2018 11:51 pm

LofJ wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Stephen Silas almost definitively parting ways.


He's the lead assistant for Carlisle in Dallas already, he definitely upgraded.

Oh did he accept? Thought they were just talking.
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Re: The Steve Clifford Thread 2.0 - Officially Fired 

Post#854 » by LofJ » Tue Jun 5, 2018 12:19 am

yosemiteben wrote:
LofJ wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Stephen Silas almost definitively parting ways.


He's the lead assistant for Carlisle in Dallas already, he definitely upgraded.

Oh did he accept? Thought they were just talking.


Yep, he accepted:

https://www.mavs.com/stephen-silas-joins-rick-carlisles-staff-mavs-lead-assistant-coach-melvin-hunt-goes-hawks/
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Re: The Steve Clifford Thread 2.0 - Officially Fired 

Post#855 » by James Gatz » Tue Jun 5, 2018 12:47 pm

Happy for Silas!
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Re: The Steve Clifford Thread 2.0 - Officially Fired 

Post#856 » by WeAreVenom » Fri Jun 8, 2018 2:41 pm

Hornet Mania wrote:All the Magic fans I've spoken to in real life (and read on the GB) are still very upset at the way Howard exited. It's questionable at best whether that reunion would help or hurt fan support. A couple of the Orlando faithful I know are actually season ticket holders and they're on the fence about renewing (but probably will, given the 6th pick should be an exciting player) they both also said point-blank if Howard comes back their season tickets will not be picked back up and they likely won't be buying them in the future either.

The animosity is very strong. Cliff is dense as hell though, so he probably doesn't realize or give a damn anyway. I'd love to drop D12 on them for something semi-useful, but it really isn't in Orlando's best interest on the basketball or business side.

Cliff is going to flame out hard down there, I'm afraid. He is not an improvement on Vogel, nor a breath of fresh air in terms of basketball philosophy. One less division rival to be concerned about.


This is spot on.

As a Magic fan, I wouldn't mind having Dwight back.....but a lot of fans are still pissed at him. Not sure how that would pan out....
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Post#857 » by vorbis » Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:34 pm

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Re: The Steve Clifford Thread 2.0 - Off the Cliff we go 

Post#858 » by -Ian- » Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:49 am

Will coach Clifford bring back his former assistants? Delany is now in Washington, Hetzel in Portland, and Kreutzer is still in Orlando. Mark Price is a free agent right now and it will be nice to have a shooting coach again.

If he's going to tap someone from Brooklyn, I hope it's Vanterpool. Clifford looks like a stopgap hire in which I am cautiously optimistic. Having someone like Vanterpool or Jay Hernandez in the staff can help if/when this team transitions to a younger head coach.
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Re: The Steve Clifford Thread 2.0 - Off the Cliff we go 

Post#859 » by BobsBuddy » Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:07 pm

:oops: :banghead: Ok everybody needs to stop whining and get behind Cliff. Honestly between Mitch,Cliff,The team and Michael, I think we can go 46-36 next year and at least win a 1st round playoff series. I hope we dump Bridges,Washington and Rosier and get back some Stud veterans who play defense and score. Fournier and Harris and even Kemba can help this team. Build the team around Ball, Williams,Cody Martin,Thor,Oubre and Hayward. Yes Hayward :nod: The Days of the Hornets being 30th ranked on defense are over. :eek2: :curse: Our new motto is "Defense First"
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Re: The Steve Clifford Thread 2.0 - Off the Cliff we go 

Post#860 » by BigSlam » Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:35 pm

Feels unnecessary to have two Cliff threads.

This one is from 2018 and his 1st go around.

Let's keep all new things Cliff related in his new thread for this go around.
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