GT: Charlotte vs Heat 12/11 7PM ET

Post #21 » by **luciano-davidwesley** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:17 am

That Heat continuation

Post #22 » by **luciano-davidwesley** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:20 am

Why do the refs always f*ck us at home to the Heat?

NMBSurfin · Post #23 » by **NMBSurfin** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:20 am

wow, got the ball down by 3 with 15 secs....need a Christmas miracle

SWedd523 · Post #24 » by **SWedd523** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:28 am

Anytime you can give up 60+ to Robinson, the corpse of Love, and Jacquez, you have to do it

Post #25 » by **luciano-davidwesley** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:33 am

Bad play at the end there trying to dribble up the whole court with only 4.3 seconds left. More of our low IQ on display

Post #26 » by **JDR720** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:35 am

Well at least we didn't get blown out and Terry keeps increasing his trade value.

Liver_Pooty · Post #27 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:36 am

JDR720 wrote:Well at least we didn't get blown out and Terry keeps increasing his trade value.

Why do people want to trade Rozier again? Enlighten me. Because he's a good player on a good contract?

Post #28 » by **Diop** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:41 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Well at least we didn't get blown out and Terry keeps increasing his trade value.

Why do people want to trade Rozier again? Enlighten me. Because he's a good player on a good contract?

his position seems like the most logical place to upgrade defensively. Need a better defender starting at guard

Liver_Pooty · Post #29 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:44 am

Diop wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
JDR720 wrote:Well at least we didn't get blown out and Terry keeps increasing his trade value.

Why do people want to trade Rozier again? Enlighten me. Because he's a good player on a good contract?

his position seems like the most logical place to upgrade defensively. Need a better defender starting at guard

And who are we going to trade for or get to upgrade defensively. Even if we upgrade defensively at that spot we're giving up everything he gives offensively. If Lamelo was having the same offensive output as him giving up the same amount of points defensively (he does) everyone would be talking about how amazing he is. I don't get it.

Post #30 » by **Diop** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:56 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
Diop wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Why do people want to trade Rozier again? Enlighten me. Because he's a good player on a good contract?

his position seems like the most logical place to upgrade defensively. Need a better defender starting at guard

And who are we going to trade for or get to upgrade defensively. Even if we upgrade defensively at that spot we're giving up everything he gives offensively. If Lamelo was having the same offensive output as him giving up the same amount of points defensively (he does) everyone would be talking about how amazing he is. I don't get it.

Lamelo is our "franchise" player, so I'm thinking about building around him. I wouldn't want 2 Lamelo's playing next to each other either, I want a defensive guard there. I wouldn't trade Rozier for a bag of chips, but someone who can be the aggressive defensive guard next to Ball would be great. I'm hoping Miller is going to take up the scoring slack for Rozier which allows us to add 3 n D players to fill those gaps.

Also the only chips we have to try and improve the team via trade is Rozier and Hayward.

Liver_Pooty · Post #31 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:58 am

Diop wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
Diop wrote:his position seems like the most logical place to upgrade defensively. Need a better defender starting at guard

And who are we going to trade for or get to upgrade defensively. Even if we upgrade defensively at that spot we're giving up everything he gives offensively. If Lamelo was having the same offensive output as him giving up the same amount of points defensively (he does) everyone would be talking about how amazing he is. I don't get it.

Lamelo is our "franchise" player, so I'm thinking about building around him. I wouldn't want 2 Lamelo's playing next to each other either, I want a defensive guard there. I wouldn't trade Rozier for a bag of chips, but someone who can be the aggressive defensive guard next to Ball would be great. I'm hoping Miller is going to take up the scoring slack for Rozier which allows us to add 3 n D players to fill those gaps.

Also the only chips we have to try and improve the team via trade is Rozier and Hayward.

I'm just saying there are no pure defensive guards in the league that can make up for his offensive output on the defensive end. His contract is a bargain no matter what anyone says. I'm fine trading him for equal value. But the only one I can think of right off is Marcus Smart and Rozier has completely outplayed him this year.

Post #32 » by **Diop** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:01 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
Diop wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
And who are we going to trade for or get to upgrade defensively. Even if we upgrade defensively at that spot we're giving up everything he gives offensively. If Lamelo was having the same offensive output as him giving up the same amount of points defensively (he does) everyone would be talking about how amazing he is. I don't get it.

Lamelo is our "franchise" player, so I'm thinking about building around him. I wouldn't want 2 Lamelo's playing next to each other either, I want a defensive guard there. I wouldn't trade Rozier for a bag of chips, but someone who can be the aggressive defensive guard next to Ball would be great. I'm hoping Miller is going to take up the scoring slack for Rozier which allows us to add 3 n D players to fill those gaps.

Also the only chips we have to try and improve the team via trade is Rozier and Hayward.

I'm just saying there are no pure defensive guards in the league that can make up for his offensive output on the defensive end. His contract is a bargain no matter what anyone says. I'm fine trading him for equal value. But the only one I can think of right off is Marcus Smart and Rozier has completely outplayed him this year.

yeah fair enough.

Liver_Pooty · Post #33 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 3:04 am

Sorry I don't mean to bitch and complain. This game just irritated me.

KingCat · Post #34 » by **KingCat** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:05 am

We gotta win one of these Heat games. They are the only team who's had as bad injury luck as us.

JMAC3 · Post #35 » by **JMAC3** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 4:49 pm

Officiating was awful.

JMAC3 · Post #36 » by **JMAC3** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 6:12 pm

Not up to date yet, but interested to see some of the leagues rulings on these.

https://official.nba.com/2023-24-nba-officiating-last-two-minute-reports/

Post #37 » by **Diop** » Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:38 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Sorry I don't mean to bitch and complain. This game just irritated me.

if you're referring to our posts, no need to be sorry, it was a good argument and discussion.

Liver_Pooty · Post #38 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed Dec 13, 2023 3:53 am

Diop wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Sorry I don't mean to bitch and complain. This game just irritated me.

if you're referring to our posts, no need to be sorry, it was a good argument and discussion.

Lol nah was referring to just myself in general. We'll get em tomorrow. Maybe.

SpearNMgicHelmt · Post #39 » by **SpearNMgicHelmt** » Wed Dec 13, 2023 7:08 pm

JMAC3 wrote:Not up to date yet, but interested to see some of the leagues rulings on these.

https://official.nba.com/2023-24-nba-officiating-last-two-minute-reports/

Unless I am crazy, they have posted the incorrect video for the key play that I am most upset about from the game.

The videos posted for timestamps 7.5 (noncall on Miller), 6.2 (noncall on MIles), and 4.3 (foul call on Rozier) during an inbounds play to Butler are all from the previous inbounds play to Butler from 8.7 when PJ blocked it out of bounds.

So Miles' obvious intentional foul on Butler with the officials ignoring it, which cost us a couple of precious seconds before they called a foul on Rozier, is not there.

Their comment of the contact being marginal for Miles is only correct if you are looking at that wrong clip!

JMAC3 · Post #40 » by **JMAC3** » Wed Dec 13, 2023 8:29 pm

Yeah the noncall on Martin travel at 1:30 was pretty bad.