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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Pelicans 12/15 7PM ET 

Post#61 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:15 am

amcoolio wrote:congrats to terry for another great offensive outing

he also is yet again the most negative +/- player, doesn’t try on defense, and we keep losing, and once again have no shot at the playoffs and it’s only december

we have very few smart players that play the game correctly or do the little things

so sorry for not being too happy for terry for this absolute **** show


Coolio, I love you very much, but I've always hated the plus minus stat especially with Val literally nearly fouling out all our centers. Terry kept us in the game and although he isn't exactly thybulle on defense I think you could point out other players that were just as or more abysmal as him. He had yet another great game facilitating and scoring the ball although he's not a pure point. Not sure what else you want from the dude.

Edit: I could literally replace Rozier with Lamelo Ball in that post and no one would have an issue with it.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Pelicans 12/15 7PM ET 

Post#62 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:23 am

Guys, I'm just eyeballing boxscores but since Lamelo went out terry is averaging 25 8 and 4 or something? And some still want to trash him? Lol it's just crazy to me. Call it losing basketball whatever but if Lamelo was averaging the same you'd be asking for an all star nod or some ****. If you're going to praise one player praise another.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Pelicans 12/15 7PM ET 

Post#63 » by fatlever » Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:24 am

we are missing 4 of our top 8 players. just impossible to point at terry for our issues.
we had no depth to start the season because 1. mitch is in love with his projects that shouldnt be taking up 40% of or roster 2. mitch **** the best for 3 straight offseasons 3. miles handcuffed us two offseasons 4. mitch doesnt value winning traits in players 5. owners are cheap 6. not a serious franchise 7. we are stealth tanking
take your pick
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Pelicans 12/15 7PM ET 

Post#64 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:28 am

fatlever wrote:we are missing 4 of our top 8 players. just impossible to point at terry for our issues.
we had no depth to start the season because 1. mitch is in love with his projects that shouldnt be taking up 40% of or roster 2. mitch **** the best for 3 straight offseasons 3. miles handcuffed us two offseasons 4. mitch doesnt value winning traits in players 5. owners are cheap 6. not a serious franchise 7. we are stealth tanking
take your pick


Yeah, I've defended mitch a lot but our depth is dog water. When we're healthy I firmly believe our top 7 is a top 6 seed easily. And that's with us young other than Hayward. After that it's bad.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Pelicans 12/15 7PM ET 

Post#65 » by amcoolio » Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:36 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
amcoolio wrote:congrats to terry for another great offensive outing

he also is yet again the most negative +/- player, doesn’t try on defense, and we keep losing, and once again have no shot at the playoffs and it’s only december

we have very few smart players that play the game correctly or do the little things

so sorry for not being too happy for terry for this absolute **** show


Coolio, I love you very much, but I've always hated the plus minus stat especially with Val literally nearly fouling out all our centers. Terry kept us in the game and although he isn't exactly thybulle on defense I think you could point out other players that were just as or more abysmal as him. He had yet another great game facilitating and scoring the ball although he's not a pure point. Not sure what else you want from the dude.

Edit: I could literally replace Rozier with Lamelo Ball in that post and no one would have an issue with it.


LaMelo's advanced stats have always been much better than Terry

Terry plays no defense at all. He's one of the worst defenders in the entire NBA and this year has a 0.0 defensive win shares, which is the lowest the stat can possibly go. And that's sad becuase he's athletic and in his prime. He was a plus defender in Boston. He played decent defense in Boston. He has no excuse.

I don't care what your offensive stats are, when you play defense like that, you lose games, period. I can't feel happy for him until he stops being a loser.

He absolutely cannot play with LaMelo, who is also a poor defender (but not as poor as Terry, who is somehow several tiers below LaMelo Ball defensively!). I honestly believe if you replace him with a plus defender like Jalen Suggs this season, for example, the team simply wins more games, which is what LaMelo, Mark, and Miller need.

love you too buddy :lol: I'm just annoyed that both the Panthers and Hornets are out of it for the foreseeable future. I also don't believe if healthy this team is any good. We need a total cleaning of the house
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Pelicans 12/15 7PM ET 

Post#66 » by KingCat » Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:36 am

Even when healthy, our role players are just trash compared to most of the league. Like a mid team like the Knicks still have guys like Divencenzo, Grimes, Hart, Hartenstein while our role players end up just doing cardio most of the time.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Pelicans 12/15 7PM ET 

Post#67 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Dec 16, 2023 6:39 am

amcoolio wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
amcoolio wrote:congrats to terry for another great offensive outing

he also is yet again the most negative +/- player, doesn’t try on defense, and we keep losing, and once again have no shot at the playoffs and it’s only december

we have very few smart players that play the game correctly or do the little things

so sorry for not being too happy for terry for this absolute **** show


Coolio, I love you very much, but I've always hated the plus minus stat especially with Val literally nearly fouling out all our centers. Terry kept us in the game and although he isn't exactly thybulle on defense I think you could point out other players that were just as or more abysmal as him. He had yet another great game facilitating and scoring the ball although he's not a pure point. Not sure what else you want from the dude.

Edit: I could literally replace Rozier with Lamelo Ball in that post and no one would have an issue with it.


LaMelo's advanced stats have always been much better than Terry

I'm just annoyed that Terry plays no defense at all. He's one of the worst defenders in the entire NBA and this year has a 0.0 defensive win shares, which is the lowest the stat can possibly go. And that's sad becuase he's athletic and in his prime. He was a plus defender in Boston. He played decent defense in Boston. He has no excuse.

I don't care what your offensive stats are, when you play defense like that, you lose games, period. I can't feel happy for him until he stops being a loser.

love you too buddy :lol: I'm just annoyed that both the Panthers and Hornets are out of it for the foreseeable future. I also don't believe if healthy this team is any good. We need a total cleaning of the house


I've never been into advanced stats so I'll trust you on that. Wish Lamar was still around to go into dumb detail about stuff that I couldn't comprehend.

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We're doing the killing though **** the falcons.
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