Rich4114 wrote:JMAC3 wrote:amcoolio wrote:
Comeon man, last draft is way ahead of this draft. Miller, Scoot, Amen, Asaur, and Black would all be the #1 pick in this draft. You didn't have anyone saying last draft was bad.
This draft has some intriguing high end potential, but the potential of each pick panning out is very low. It's basically gambling. I say 2 out of the 8 end up better than Deni year 3, and we have no idea which 2 of those are. 2014 draft is a good comp. Much, much more likely that Holland is a Ben McLemore level NBA player than a Mikal Bridges level, for example
I mean I can pull up the conversations of people saying Miller was going to average 7 ppg, would spend half the year in the Gleague, how if we had Kelly Oubre Miller wouldn't play at all... so yeah I think in general our fan base still doesn't understand the difference between picking in the top 3 vs picking 9-12. If we pick inside the top 5 whoever we get will play a good bit as a rookie.
Feel like there is some assumption that this year draft is like picking 10-15 it is so bad... when in reality I think it is pretty much the same as most once you reach the 3rd or 4th pick. There is just no Wemby, Zion, Cade etc... but still going to be allstars, starters found in the lottery at probably close to the same rate.
I think what this debate comes down to is known commodity vs potential. And I also think the issue with this draft is it's being called a historically bad draft, so the chances of hitting on potential in THIS draft is pretty low. But I get it, hard to sell anyone on a chance at a hit in exchange for a solid role player/starter.
But if you are playing the odds, if you combine this teams track record of choosing the right prospect + the reputation this draft class has... the odds of landing a difference maker are pretty low - historically speaking.
If adding another solid role player or starter to the team was our biggest issue then I would be more for it, but Melo-Miller-Deni-Miles-Mark is probably still a team that is rooting to be a playin team assuming we are fully healthy. Unless Miller or Melo become a top 20 player.
The Sacramento Kings have two top 25 players, a 6th man of the year candidate, a knockdown shooter in a rookie contract and a solid Vet in their starting lineup and didn't make the playoffs. We need more top end talent to actually compete.
Nuggets top 3 player, top 20 player. Great role players.
Wolves top 15 player, two more top 30 players. Great role players.
Thunder top 10 player, a top 30 player, top 50 player. Great role players.
Mavs top 3 player, top 20 player. Great role players.
Celtics, top 5 player, top 25 player. Awesome role players.
Knicks, top 15 player. Awesome role players.
Cavs top 15 player
Pacers- Would have lost to healthy Bucks team with a top 3 player.
Idk if anyone in this draft can be a top 15 player, but the NBA is too good to not swing when you have a shot at the best player in a draft class. A very good chance the best player in this class goes like 4th too.