OT: the all-time team of players from NC colleges

Post #1 » by **fatlever** » Wed May 7, 2008 4:47 pm

yesterday on the mack attack (WFNZ) they were taking calls on the all-time team from players who went to college in NC. i found the topic rather interesting and since i'm bored and the forum is dead i thought i throw this out there to see what we can come up with. after a few days i'll score the responses and post our 1st, 2nd and 3rd teams.

rules -
1. you can only vote for players that played for a college in NC
2. pick a 1st team (worth 3pts), 2nd team (worth 2pts) and 3rd team (worth 1pt)
3. picks should be based on what they did while in college and not based on NBA career.

enjoy.... or not.

i'll post mine in a few. i need to do some research.

Post #2 » by **fatlever** » Wed May 7, 2008 4:55 pm

http://www.databasebasketball.com/playe ... ollege.htm

it doesnt include players who didnt play in the nba and it only has college stats for some... but its a good start.

edit

this is the one that has the college stats for most players
http://www.basketball-reference.com

Post #3 » by **fatlever** » Wed May 7, 2008 7:19 pm

man, this is tough. there are so many good players from different eras. tough to decide.... but i'll give it my best shot.

1st team
g: phil ford
g: earl monroe
g/f: david thompson
f: christian laettner
c: tim duncan

2nd team
g: johnny dawkins
g: jj redick
g/f: michael jordan
f: james worthy
c: tom burleson

3rd team
g: randolph childress
g: bobby hurley
f: billy cunningham
f: grant hill
c: sam perkins

hm: antawn jamison, world b free, jason williams, shane battier, cedric maxwell, walter davis, sam jones, john drew, ml carr, kevin martin, chris paul, frankie king, danny ferry, brad daugherty, mike gminski, bobby jones, charlie scott,

*** my apologies to many of the studs that played back in the 50s and 60s. i just dont know enough about them.

Post #4 » by **Paydro70** » Wed May 7, 2008 11:08 pm

Oh... this is based on college success? I thought we'd be doing NBA. Ummm.... good list I guess, kind of surprising that NPOYs like Battier, Jamison and Ferry don't make it... heck, Brand doesn't even make your HMs.

Post #5 » by **fatlever** » Thu May 8, 2008 4:07 pm

brand only played 2 years... but sure, add him to the HM list.

anyway... i guess i was the only who found the topic interesting. oh well.

fluffernutter · Post #6 » by **fluffernutter** » Thu May 8, 2008 4:31 pm

I'm not terribly interested in the topic, but one thing sticks out: JJ Redick on the 2nd team. There isn't any way such a 1 dimensional player should be on the 2nd team. Pick any other equally good shooter (and there are some; JJ got his records from volume, not accuracy) who is far better at defense, rebounding, ball handling, etc. etc.

Childress, from 3rd team, Walter Davis, from HM, etc. were far more complete and better players it's hard to argue, plus many others can be found.

CatNation · Post #7 » by **CatNation** » Thu May 8, 2008 5:18 pm

all i know is david thompson is the best college player ever

SteveMorrison15 · Post #8 » by **SteveMorrison15** » Thu May 8, 2008 6:15 pm

JJ REDICK!!!

Post #9 » by **fatlever** » Thu May 8, 2008 9:11 pm

redicks accomplishments are hard to ignore. dukes all time leading scorer. all time acc tourny leading scorer. i think he is now the leading scorer total in acc history. granted he was one dimensional, but he was arguably the best shooter in the history of the acc.

thompson is probably the best all time nc college player ever. thompson or earl monroe, who was apparently pretty damn amazing in college as well, averaging like 40ppg... but probably DT due to the better level of competition and the fact that he lead NC state to the NCAA title ending UCLAs streak.

all time, imo, goes to lew alcinder.

Post #10 » by **Walt Cronkite** » Fri May 9, 2008 4:13 am

Didn't feel like I had a strong enough base of knowledge to really respond to the op. Don't really understand the Josh Howard omission and I'd have Jay Williams a lot higher, but I also only saw one person on Fat's 1st team play on TV, so...

e4Nf6 · Post #11 » by **e4Nf6** » Sat May 10, 2008 6:51 am

We know are limitations more than some other forums here

I've only been watching for maybe 15 years, no way im qualified to make a list.

Anyway I'll try to throw fats a bone

(Only players I've watched, since maybe 1990)

1st team

C: Tim Duncan
F: Christian Laettnar
F: Grant Hill
G: JJ Reddick
G: Chris Paul

2nd
C: Elton Brand
F: Antwan Jamison
F: Shane Battier
G: Randolph Childress
G: Jay(son) Williams

3rd (Getting Hard now)
C: Sean May
F: Tyler Hansborough
F: Josh Howard
G: Vince Carter
G: Bobby Hurley

Wow...Looking Back at my list
Duke = 7
Wake = 4
UNC = 4
State = 0

you can probably tell im a wake fan...