Felton: Staying or Going?

[W_HAMILTON]

Knight made it public that he would rather go play for a contender if we weren't going to give him starters mins.

Yes, because the Clippers were really contenders.

That's incorrect, it was said a couple of seasons ago, and it was in response to a reporter's questions about whether or not Knight would accept a "bit" role (ie, playing only sparingly, maybe 10 minutes/game), or if he would prefer to play elsewhere if his role was substantially reduced.

He has since said that he would have played whatever role necessary to stay on the team instead of uproot his family again, and he said he would have also taken a pay cut to remain with the team.

[Paydro70]

Floppy, I think the stats you gave from 82games.com is very misleading. Bobcats were horrible when Felton is off the court because we have no other PG (unless you count Mcinnis as a PG )

From a positional standpoint the PG position is in fact the worst position in comparison to the opp #'s.
http://www.82games.com/0708/0708CHA5.HTM

I think this year we will see a better indication of how the team will perform when Felton is off the court with DJ being a legitimate back-up.

Aren't you doing exactly the same thing here? McInnis is obviously the one dragging the PER down to 12. In more interesting news, the Bobcats were actually #6 in PG PER allowed... so perhaps Ray really is an above-average defender if he's better than McInnis and on aggregate they're both above average?

A conditional first-rounder for Ray would be (Please Use More Appropriate Word). Whatever you think of him, he is at least an okay player; there's no way we'd be trading him for a pick outside the lottery right now. I don't know how good of a big man Ray can fetch, but I feel like someone with a glut could be willing to part with one.

[pondin]

Right paydro! I'm not trying to make contradicting statements. I am just reiterating my point that the PG position is not balanced, and therefore this year's roster should provide better reading on how good raymond felton really is.

I don't think most of the members here thinks that Felton is less than an avg PG. Hell, I think he is a top 15-20 PG. But he is not good enough to lead this team period!

Anyone who thinks we should just ship Felton this year for a PF is delusional. DJ haven't even played a single game. All I am saying is that we should be looking to replace Felton for a better PG for the next coming years.

[BigSlam]

i thought perhaps Charlie Villaneva might be available but he's going to be a starter in Milwaukee with Yi Jianlian now in New Jersey.

Just because a player becomes a starter through default doesn't mean his value all of a sudden peaks!!

[Rich4114]

Knight made it public that he would rather go play for a contender if we weren't going to give him starters mins.

Yes, because the Clippers were really contenders.

That's incorrect, it was said a couple of seasons ago, and it was in response to a reporter's questions about whether or not Knight would accept a "bit" role (ie, playing only sparingly, maybe 10 minutes/game), or if he would prefer to play elsewhere if his role was substantially reduced.

He has since said that he would have played whatever role necessary to stay on the team instead of uproot his family again, and he said he would have also taken a pay cut to remain with the team.

I believe he mentioned this multiple times, most recently right before he was released. Of course he would have rather stayed here than go rot on the clippers bench. But c'mon, those guys need a PG in the worst way and Knight is obviously available to them. I think making a comment like he did showed some selfishness and that's what ultimately got him shown the door.

I think he said that to get management to continue giving him mins and letting him run the show, but his gamble ended up causing him to be cut.

[SteveMorrison15]

This is Felton's year. Under Larry Brown he's golden. No trade.

[W_HAMILTON]

I think making a comment like he did showed some selfishness and that's what ultimately got him shown the door.

The only thing that got him shown to the door was this organization's over-reliance on Felton. On this team, McInnis wasn't a "cancer" and he wasn't selfish, he played whatever role the coach asked of him; and he got waived, too. The team parted ways with both of them because they were "holding back" the great Felton.

I think he said that to get management to continue giving him mins and letting him run the show, but his gamble ended up causing him to be cut.

Wrong as usual. He didn't go to a contender, and he doesn't "run the show" much in LAC seeing as how he split time with other PGs most of the season. A reporter asked him a few seasons ago whether he would prefer to play a "bit" role, or go elsewhere, and he basically said he'd rather go elsewhere and contribute if he wasn't going to be in a position to contribute on this team. Knight did not volunteer that information, he did not bring it up himself, he was asked by a reporter what he would prefer, and Knight answered the question.

[brianmc]

Knight made it public that he would rather go play for a contender if we weren't going to give him starters mins.

Yes, because the Clippers were really contenders.

That's incorrect, it was said a couple of seasons ago, and it was in response to a reporter's questions about whether or not Knight would accept a "bit" role (ie, playing only sparingly, maybe 10 minutes/game), or if he would prefer to play elsewhere if his role was substantially reduced.

He has since said that he would have played whatever role necessary to stay on the team instead of uproot his family again, and he said he would have also taken a pay cut to remain with the team.

brevin knight has always been a grade A class act and was a tremendous asset to the Bobcats. His reward was basically being told to "get the F out" even though he was more than willing to take on a secondary role for a very reasonable salary.

WHAT DO WE GET INSTEAD?

The man who has been ran off of nearly every team he's ever been on.. Jeff McInnis. I don't care he went to Carolina. Keep this man away from the Queen City. He's a third stringer at best on a really bad team (bobcats are simply sub par not really bad). I have this really bad feeling he'll be brought back once again although I pray Larry Brown is too smart for that.

Felton has regressed since his responsibilities have been increased. He was most efficient on the court when he had Brevin there to back him up. If you can't get a big man for Felton, then I guess I can live with Felton and Augustin sharing the PG and praying Felton learns how to shoot a jump shot again.

[W_HAMILTON]

The man who has been ran off of nearly every team he's ever been on.. Jeff McInnis.

Yeah. I actually had to revise my post while typing it, because I had written that Jeff McInnis wasn't a cancer, then remembered back to, oh, just about every other team he's been on.

So I had to preface it with, "on this team." I also was gonna type that he did what was asked of him, but I remember back to when he was making excuses in the paper for not listening to the coach when Vincent told his PGs to pass it to Okafor more, so I edited that out as well

[kllrnstnct]

Felton will be a Bobcat until at least the trade deadline. Brown will not
be using him as a shooting guard and will be giving him the best
opportuntity to succede. This is Feltons' year to prove what he
can do and if he doesn't then we will probably see a trade.
I believe Felton will thrive with a very solid coach and the competition
he will be getting from DJ.

[Rich4114]

I think making a comment like he did showed some selfishness and that's what ultimately got him shown the door.

The only thing that got him shown to the door was this organization's over-reliance on Felton. On this team, McInnis wasn't a "cancer" and he wasn't selfish, he played whatever role the coach asked of him; and he got waived, too. The team parted ways with both of them because they were "holding back" the great Felton.

I think he said that to get management to continue giving him mins and letting him run the show, but his gamble ended up causing him to be cut.

Wrong as usual. He didn't go to a contender, and he doesn't "run the show" much in LAC seeing as how he split time with other PGs most of the season. A reporter asked him a few seasons ago whether he would prefer to play a "bit" role, or go elsewhere, and he basically said he'd rather go elsewhere and contribute if he wasn't going to be in a position to contribute on this team. Knight did not volunteer that information, he did not bring it up himself, he was asked by a reporter what he would prefer, and Knight answered the question.

I could say some things back to that, but that's what the Felt-O-Meter is for.

[spectre_]

gdub (ruston, la): Any thoughts on what the Bobcats are thinking; I still see a huge need at center

SportsNation John Hollinger: I have no idea what the Cats are thinking, besides "hey, we haven't messed with Raymond Felton's head for at least a couple months now, we should probably do something about that." I like Augustin, but passing on Lopez was highly questionable.

Presumably taken from an online chat...courtesy of TarheelBorn over at Inside Hoops.

[Rich4114]

Haha, at least someone publically recognizes this.

[W_HAMILTON]

Woe is Raymond Felton.

Sniff, sniff...starting a greater percentage of his games than Deron Williams. Sniffle.

Sob, sob...averaging almost as many minutes/game as Chris Paul these last two seasons. Oh, boohoo.

If only someone gave the kid a chance!