Brown worried May is too unfit to help Bobcats

[chrbal]

I think its safe to say that Larry wanted someone who could run his offense and/or push Felton to run his offense. Adding Dooling might've helped, but not enough

Nazr should absolutely get 24ish minutes a game. I don't think Dudley should start, but he should get a good amount of minutes.

[spectre_]

From Slam's GM Survey thread...

Which head coach makes the best in-game adjustments?
1. Gregg Popovich -- 28.0%
2. Larry Brown -- 20.0%

If it's by committee then Brown's a pretty good guy to have.

IMO management could have been a lot more creative in the draft, esp. since they had that 20th pick. I'm still fine with taking DJ though, and LB knows players better than any of us. Lex might end up being the smartest thing this organization has ever done.

[therebirth]

Why is everybody ignoring the fact that LB selected those 2 players in the draft. If we are so in need of a power forward then why didn't he get one with the picks?

[Raptors90102]

Tough break for you guys.. Sean May when playing well is a pretty good player.. but "WHEN" is the key word here.. Maybe you guys need to take a look at the disgruntled PF's elsewhere in the league.. maybe someone like:

1- Charlie Villanueva - Skiles doesn't really like his game all that much and needs a defensive stopper at the 4 spot. CV wants out of Milwaukee and perhaps playing with his buddy Okafor might just be what the doctor ordered for him. Also, his inside/outside game will open the paint up for Okafor as well.

2- Andrie Kirlenko - Granted, he's not the best solution at PF as he plays more like a 3, but the guy can defend, slash, make plays and can defend most 4's in this league

3- Rasheed Wallace - I know it will be difficult to acquire him at this point, but if the pistons falter and Sheed appears disinterested by the allstar break, the bobcats can perhaps acquire him on the cheap as he'll be an expiring contract and the pistons won't mind dumping him

4- Nick Collison/Chris Wlcox - either one could be had as the Thunder don't really appear high on either one of these players

There are some options out there.. lets hope you guys get the help you need

[Rich4114]

I like your trade ideas Raptors90102, especially the Charlie V one because I know he could be had cheap. He's also the type of guy that needs to be in the right position and he'll do REALLY well. I think the right position is starting for us.

What do the Bucks want for him though? We've got wings, do they want Ammo or maybe a project big man?

[Bassman]

I'm not so sure Milwaukee is looking to part with CV. Is there some evidence of this talk anywhere? Looks to me like he's been starting in the preseason. Even so I doubt we have anything they would want in trade. I'd love to see him have a shot here.

Primarily I'd like the Cats to explore obtaining either Collison or Wilcox. Some combination of expirings might be attractive as they want to pursue a free agent next year. I really like Collison's game in terms of how it would fit here.

Reality is no player we'd likely get in trade is going to launch this team over the top.

[brianmc]

didn't we have a chance at Charlie V around draft time? Straight up for Felton? I like that trade because CV is a big man with upside and he's young. Felton is a poor outside shooter. His 3 pt FG% has declined every year he's been with the Cats

[Raptors90102]

Yes CV has been starting for waukee this preseason but word out of the Bucks organization is that Skiles doesn't like him all that much is contemplating starting Mallik Allen or Luc Richard instead of him to provide defense and hustle.. CV has been a bad fit for milwaukee eversince he was traded there.. he got injured for pretty much the entire season when he got there his first year.. the second year they dumped him for the Chinese cash cow named Yi and now he has to please a coach in Skiles who, for some weird reason, has a mancrush on journeymen veterans like Mallik Allen and Adrian griffin.. CV doesn't defend much but I think defense is the last thing the bobacts need to worry about.. they need to start winning games and get production out of the PF spot.. CV can help there..

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

From what we can tell BB's "plan" that draft was to get a PG and a big guy. He knew that Williams or Felton would likely fall to him at 5 & wanted to use 13 on CV. He had a shot at trading both picks to draft Paul at 3 from what I understand but passed thinking that he could get two starters with 5 & 13. He got Felton at 5 but when the Raps drafted CV at 10 he just went for what he considered the next best big there ... May.

[BigSlam]

From what we can tell BB's "plan" that draft was to get a PG and a big guy. He knew that Williams or Felton would likely fall to him at 5 & wanted to use 13 on CV. He had a shot at trading both picks to draft Paul at 3 from what I understand but passed thinking that he could get two starters with 5 & 13. He got Felton at 5 but when the Raps drafted CV at 10 he just went for what he considered the next best big there ... May.

My understanding was that Portland wanted picks #5 and #13 to move up but BB would only give them #5 and the future Raps pick that was owed to us (which ended up being #22 thin 2007 and what we used to select Jared Dudley) which they obviously declined FWIW.

[Rich4114]

Ugh, not this again...

[spectre_]

May/Ammo for Darko.

Memphis is looking for expirings and don't really need May to produce anyway as they have a fair amount of bigs. They also get a chucker to replace Miller.

Obvious why we do it. Darko isn't really the mobile guy we want but he can pass as well as shoot from outside of 5 ft. From what I remember he was a pretty good shot blocker as well.

Question is what type of love lost is there between him and LB?

[Walt Cronkite]

Ugh, not this again...

It has to be the biggest missed opportunity in franchise history. It ranks in the top two biggest blunders period, depending on where you rank selecting Ammo 3 with the 3rd pick.

[fatlever]

bonnell pretty much nailed these today in his blog. here's my top front office blunders (not in order)

not trading up for paul
selecting may over granger
selecting ammo over gay and roy
trading herrmann and lots of cap space for nazr
hiring vincent
signing mcinnis
waiting 5 months to cut mcinnis
bernie's lack of creativity during the x-draft
not resigning knight
signing harrington
trading bogans for lonny baxter
paying matt carroll 5 mil per - sorry hammer fans

[therebirth]

fat, I remember 2 years ago when all the news media was reporting that mj wanted Gay or Roy and you were saying you would never forgive him if he didn't pick Morrison and he becomes a star.

[chrbal]

1-not trading up for paul
2-selecting may over granger
3-selecting ammo over gay and roy
4-trading herrmann and lots of cap space for nazr
5-hiring vincent
6-signing mcinnis
7-waiting 5 months to cut mcinnis
8-bernie's lack of creativity during the x-draft
9-not resigning knight
10-signing harrington
11-trading bogans for lonny baxter
12-paying matt carroll 5 mil per - sorry hammer fans

1 and 2- I don't really have a problem with 1, but two.....I seem to remember some rumor about Denver offering the 20th and 22nd picks for 13 in that draft.

3- Why draft for need when you can draft a NCAA tourney hero?

4- This was a horrid move.

5- why get the guy you want, when you can get a cheap knock-off?

6 and 7- the less said better.

8- What? The rookie Okafor, Melvin Ely and Primoz Brezec weren't enough of a frontcourt rotation for you?

10- Signing Harrington wasn't the problem, the problem was the contract he got. Hes coming off of a season where he averaged about 5 points and 2 rebounds, and the Bulls waived him in the last days before the season started. So do the Bobcats offer him a veterans minimum? No, they sign him to a year contract with a 3rd year team option worth over $2 mil per year.

12- i can't remember did any other team make a similar offer for Matt?

13- Not matching Jason Kaponos two year offer from the Heat for about $1.1 mil per year and then trading a 2nd round pick to the Lakers (the lakers already had two from the Bobcats). Jasons' "not worth $1.1 mil" stats from the Bobcats 1st season; 8.5 points, 41.2 3pt%, 83.3 Ft%, 2 rebounds, 18.4 minutes.

14- The Kevin Burleson Experiment. The Bobcats actually addressed their need for a 3rd string PG in their 2nd season. Unfortunately, it would be someone so god-awful, it was almost a joke. Somehow he even started a game.

15- The Bernard Robinson and Alan Anderson experiences. The Bobcats took a guy 45th in the 2004 draft who probably would've gone undrafted otherwise. The 1st year he hardly played in spite of the lack of depth anywhere on this team. The 2nd year he played quite a bit and actually did pretty well. He wasn't going to be a key player on a good team, but he could've become an effective role player. So what happens his 3rd year? He becomes an afterthought and then eventually gets traded for Jeff McInnis.
So who is Alan Anderson you ask? He was Michigan States version of Michigans Bernard Robinson. So naturally Bernie had to have both. And in his 2nd year he brought in Alan, undrafted. Alan and Bernard both played quite a bit in this teams 2nd season, even though this team now had 5 shooting guards on its roster. His 2nd season, he gets waived in November 2006 then resigns in March 2007. He had put up good numbers at the NBADL level and wound up putting up about the same numbers in his 2nd NBA season that he did in his rookie year. He leaves for the Italian Leauge without an offer from Charlotte.

[BigSlam]

2 picks for Kareem Rush.

[Rich4114]

Well, let's talk about the positives....

Trading up to get Okafor instead of Josh Childress
Trading our pick to get J-Rich
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