HARRINGTON!

[e4Nf6]

Any permutation of Crash for Harrington would be awful....

If you must trade Crash, we can do better than Al Harrington...

[W_HAMILTON]

RealGM front page has an article title saying that the organization doesn't want to trade for Harrington "because he doesn't fill any of our needs."

[W_HAMILTON]

Well, RealGM had it on their front page like breaking news, but when I went to the link, it was actually just a blurb that Bonnell wrote in his blog yesterday, soooooo, I guess Harrington will be a Bobcat by next week.

[ohara]

RealGM front page has an article title saying that the organization doesn't want to trade for Harrington "because he doesn't fill any of our needs."

THAT SAYS IT ALL.

[nugentrk]

We should do it and try to grab Marcus Williams too. They can have any (or all 4) of these guys if they like, sean may, matt carroll, Nazr and Adam Morrison. We should not trade Felton yet

[NW]

We should do it and try to grab Marcus Williams too. They can have any (or all 4) of these guys if they like, sean may, matt carroll, Nazr and Adam Morrison. We should not trade Felton yet

felton's the only guy the Warriors would be interested in

[nugentrk]

DJ is not ready so we can't really trade Felton, yet. We need to grab a guy from a rebuilding team

May for Hakim Warrick (with Darrell Arthur playing well, we can probably get him for only May)
Mikki Moore (they have Jason Thompson to replace him)

[supergallinari]

http://www.probasketballnews.com/pbn_br ... 10608.html

[W_HAMILTON]

Lovely.

They'd be stupid to trade Wallace, even for Harrington. I wouldn't be surprised if it temporarily makes us better, just because we could play Harrington at PF and still have plenty of options at SF (Dudley, Morrison, Richardson, Carroll, etc). Kinda the same way starting Carroll at the end of last year "made us better," but it's not like a team with Carroll starting is better than a team with Wallace starting. It just made it easier to cover up our real problems, and a Wallace for Harrington trade would do the same.

I'm sure they could be more creative as well, and find a way to get Harrington without giving up Wallace. That would be an improvement to the current team. Trading Wallace for Harrington doesn't make us a better team, it just shuffles our problems around. I think it's possible it would have a short-term positive effect, but that may not even happen, when you factor in Wallace's intangibles compared with Harrington's -- Wallace always busts his butt out there and is a good person, whereas Harrington has had issues most places he's been, and is disgrunted yet again.

[NW]

Lovely.

They'd be stupid to trade Wallace, even for Harrington. I wouldn't be surprised if it temporarily makes us better, just because we could play Harrington at PF and still have plenty of options at SF (Dudley, Morrison, Richardson, Carroll, etc). Kinda the same way starting Carroll at the end of last year "made us better," but it's not like a team with Carroll starting is better than a team with Wallace starting. It just made it easier to cover up our real problems, and a Wallace for Harrington trade would do the same.

I'm sure they could be more creative as well, and find a way to get Harrington without giving up Wallace. That would be an improvement to the current team. Trading Wallace for Harrington doesn't make us a better team, it just shuffles our problems around. I think it's possible it would have a short-term positive effect, but that may not even happen, when you factor in Wallace's intangibles compared with Harrington's -- Wallace always busts his butt out there and is a good person, whereas Harrington has had issues most places he's been, and is disgrunted yet again.

Wouldn't be so sure you guys get Harrington.

Knicks seem to really want him and you guys seem like a nice fit for David Lee. Warriors wouldn't mind Lee either, but aren't willing to take on one of the Knicks albatrosses for him.

Not sure the Ws would be interested in Wallace, but say the Warriors get Wallace, Knicks get Harrington, Bobcats get David Lee and one of the Knicks albatross deals (not Curry).

[old rem]

We should do it and try to grab Marcus Williams too. They can have any (or all 4) of these guys if they like, sean may, matt carroll, Nazr and Adam Morrison. We should not trade Felton yet

GSW only really has a legit interest in Felton but I think would take Carroll as a salary fill. Nazr would be a way too expensive #3 C with a too long contract. I'm okay with May who probably can't physically play much,especially at a fast pace. Probably he'd just expire.

Carroll + Morrison are of just minor interest to GSW. We have 20 ppg guys at SG+SF. Azubuike is as good as a lot of NBA starters. Belinnelli was a rd 1, a perimeter shooter but a better ballhandler and quicker than Carroll. Morrow was MVP in summer ball as he shot better than 60% from 3 while playing well overall. Randolph, our 6-19 rookie is seen by many as our future SF starter.

Trading for Carroll-Felton or Carroll - Nazr would be taking on $$$ for more than 2 yrs for a 3rd string guy...without enough PLUS anywhere.

[W_HAMILTON]

Not sure the Ws would be interested in Wallace, but say the Warriors get Wallace, Knicks get Harrington, Bobcats get David Lee and one of the Knicks albatross deals (not Curry).

Then that would be god awful.

[gswhoops]

Aside from being a great trade value-wise, Al for Crash really doesn't make sense for the W's. We've got enough money invested in the SF as it is.

Call me crazy, but I'd be much happier with a Felton/Ammo for Al/Watson swap, which I think benefits both sides.

Okafor
Harrington
Crash
JRich
Augustin

Biedrins
Wright
Maggette
Jackson
Felton

[W_HAMILTON]

Hopefully the Front Office would check RealGM before doing a trade then, because that is a deal that would clearly benefit us.

It seems like they have made some moves that the fans have suggested before, so he's hoping they listen to us this time, too.

Granted, I don't know that GSW higher-ups would agree to a deal like that; it seems like they aren't getting back enough value.

[gswhoops]

Granted, I don't know that GSW higher-ups would agree to a deal like that; it seems like they aren't getting back enough value.

I think Nellie just wants to be rid of Harrington. IMO we'd be perfectly satisfied with a PG like Felton who can start until Ellis gets back, then give us some firepower off the bench. Morrison is just filler, but he expires at the same time as Al so there's no negative cap issues. That being said, he could break out in Nelson's system.

[amcoolio]

Granted, I don't know that GSW higher-ups would agree to a deal like that; it seems like they aren't getting back enough value.

I think Nellie just wants to be rid of Harrington. IMO we'd be perfectly satisfied with a PG like Felton who can start until Ellis gets back, then give us some firepower off the bench. Morrison is just filler, but he expires at the same time as Al so there's no negative cap issues. That being said, he could break out in Nelson's system.

Oh he will. Morrison will be the player who when we trade will blow up on his new team, and Charlotte will be forever criticized for trading him. I know its coming, you know its coming.

[old rem]

Granted, I don't know that GSW higher-ups would agree to a deal like that; it seems like they aren't getting back enough value.

I think Nellie just wants to be rid of Harrington. IMO we'd be perfectly satisfied with a PG like Felton who can start until Ellis gets back, then give us some firepower off the bench. Morrison is just filler, but he expires at the same time as Al so there's no negative cap issues. That being said, he could break out in Nelson's system.

Felton has the mix of cost -talent-youth-experiance that works for GSW. We could chase after a better PG but that guy costs more either in salary or trade chips..maybe both. Morrison probably can't cnsistantly be a volume scorer at the NBA level, which is tough since his game was making the difficult shot and doing in a bunch. I see him being a basketball IQ guy who can become more of a passer, then, as a role guy, score when the matchups are favorable,play the percentages, and pass when that's the answer. Not likely he gets so good at that it covers for below average D, but I see a pretty effective 6th man.

I don't put too much stock in internet rumors..especially any began by a NY sports tabloid. Eddy Curry? I'd rather tell NAzr to shoot a dozen shots a game. GSW won't give Harrington for Gerald Wallace? Well....yeah..if he's on the table I would even knowing GSW then has 3 major players and a fast rising youngster at the 2+3.

Nellie finally played Marcus Williams and he looked okay, good vision + passing. CJ Watson has started to THINK PG, he's had a couple of nice games this week,and has more speed + D than Marcus. I'd assume in any deal with Felton to GSW, one of those PG's goes to Charlotte.

[old rem]

Lovely.

They'd be stupid to trade Wallace, even for Harrington. I wouldn't be surprised if it temporarily makes us better, just because we could play Harrington at PF and still have plenty of options at SF (Dudley, Morrison, Richardson, Carroll, etc). Kinda the same way starting Carroll at the end of last year "made us better," but it's not like a team with Carroll starting is better than a team with Wallace starting. It just made it easier to cover up our real problems, and a Wallace for Harrington trade would do the same.

I'm sure they could be more creative as well, and find a way to get Harrington without giving up Wallace. That would be an improvement to the current team. Trading Wallace for Harrington doesn't make us a better team, it just shuffles our problems around. I think it's possible it would have a short-term positive effect, but that may not even happen, when you factor in Wallace's intangibles compared with Harrington's -- Wallace always busts his butt out there and is a good person, whereas Harrington has had issues most places he's been, and is disgrunted yet again.

Al does bust his butt. His "issues" are that he was getting used as an undersize cenrter sometimes, a 3 point arc guy sometimes, wanted a more conventional role as an all-round F. It's all about the numbers. Teams may LIKE to deploy a guy in oddball roles...then at contract time..oh..it's all about the numbers. Al was getting put into a role that costs hum a RBD and 2-3 ppg and when it comes to the next contract..that costs him a couple million dollars a year.

Golden St and Charlotte are in the same boat. Neither has to be in a big rush. The goal is in the future

[rly723]

Bill Engram on his chat this morning:

Dominic in New York, NY:
What happened with the three way deal between the knicks, bobcats and warriors? The One that would send gerald wallace to the warriors? is that done, if so what happened?

Bill Ingram:
I wouldn't say it's done . . .something is cooking, but there are like 5 variations and right now it's too early to even speculate what - if anything - actually happens.

bizzy in T.O:
any news about raprtrs trades? whats goin with their talks with Harrngton n G.Wallace?..

Bill Ingram:

Stay tuned. . .the phones are busy today!!

* http://www.hoopsworld.com/chat.asp?stat ... PICS_ID=57

[Felton for Pres]

Engram actually says some nice things about Charlotte. I take bake every bad thing I've said about Hoopsworld.