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I wouldn't trade Augustin for two All-Stars

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Re: I wouldn't trade Augustin for two All-Stars 

Post#21 » by doc.end » Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:18 pm

Paydro, you have bug there. Augustin is spelled correctly. At least and an extra e, jeez.
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Re: I wouldn't trade Augustin for two All-Stars 

Post#22 » by doc.end » Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:19 pm

fatlever wrote:this is comedy gold. this whole thread deserves HOF consideration.

what prompted all this? i must have missed some ridiculous dj trade offers or something.

Maybe we should sticky this when such offer occurs?
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Re: I wouldn't trade Augustin for two All-Stars 

Post#23 » by Paydro70 » Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:27 pm

doc.end wrote:Paydro, you have bug there. Augustin is spelled correctly. At least and an extra e, jeez.


No, no, you don't misspell your own team's players... if anything I should have called him Kenyon Martin or Bradley Milleré (you know you love that accent... alt+0233, one of the only ones I remember from Spanish class, along with alt+0161 (¡) and alt+0191 (¿)).
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Re: I wouldn't trade Augustin for two All-Stars 

Post#24 » by doc.end » Sun Dec 14, 2008 5:41 pm

OT: you know i have "é" in my native language too, so i have it on keyboard directly.) (at the place of zero)

"No, no, you don't misspell your own team's players..." You would be surprised... I remember things such as Gordan etc. from hardcore-trollers-by-accident
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Re: I wouldn't trade Augustin for two All-Stars 

Post#25 » by dmutombo321 » Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:37 pm

I know exactly what Hamilton’s talking about and share his sentiments regarding some teams overvaluing their young prospects. As Ham indicated in the first post, his thread was sparked by the Rudy Fernandez talk:

Wallace and Carroll to Portland for Rudy Fernandez, Batum and Lafrentz’ expiring.

Now reasonable people can agree to differ on whether such a trade would ultimately be the way to go for Portland but it’s a respectable proposal that could ultimately benefit both teams and would at least be worthy of some cursory consideration..

However, if this were to be floated on the Blazers board, you would be excoriated by posters who think it is insulting to them and patently absurd.

They put Fernandez on a pedestal and many of their fans consider him untouchable.

Now granted, Fernandez is a promising young player who could develop into a great player in the future; that’s why we would be interested in him in the first place. But he’s hardly the basketball messiah. We’re talking about someone averaging 11 points, 3.5 rebounds on 41% shooting.

Meanwhile, Wallace, while he has his flaws, is one of the top 8-12 SFs in the league. He’s not chopped liver and would help Portland or any number of other teams immensely. Once he has overcome his recent family tragedies and gets back on the court for a few games, he’ll get back to business as usual: 19 points, 8 rebs 2-3 steals.

Here’s an example of the type of mindset Ham is talking about: a Charlotte Trade Thread on the Blazers board: viewtopic.php?f=28&t=861449&st=0&sk=t&sd=a

To summarize, a Portland poster suggests that Charlotte trade both Felton and Wallace for Outlaw, Channing Frye and Lafrentz.

One poster responds by suggesting that “the blazers are maybe giving up too much.”

Another states that he would want to “acquire Wallace without trading any of the BIG 4 (I'm including Rudy from now on)”
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Re: I wouldn't trade Augustin for two All-Stars 

Post#26 » by Rich4114 » Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:46 pm

LOL - Ham, you've really flipped your coupe now. I like this new side of you.
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Re: I wouldn't trade Augustin for two All-Stars 

Post#27 » by Rich4114 » Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:50 pm

It is kinda funny how most realgm posters think they should be able to trade for a teams star player and only have to give up bench players they don't use anyway. Sometimes I scour the trade board just to say no to the trades involving the Bobcats. Of course usually SLAM beats me to it.
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Re: I wouldn't trade Augustin for two All-Stars 

Post#28 » by Heat3 » Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:39 pm

SteveMorrison15 wrote:
Heat3 wrote:We have a trade thread on the Heat forum already and quite frankly whatever your joke is on this board doesn't translate over there. So don't spam over there with useless threads that only a bobcats fan would get a chuckle out of.


A guy with Steve Smith in his avatar will never get my respect.

or a Heat fan.


It's all good since it isn't worth much to begin with :)
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Re: I wouldn't trade Augustin for two All-Stars 

Post#29 » by W_HAMILTON » Sun Dec 14, 2008 10:06 pm

You should want the respect of someone that makes NBA JAM game threads!

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Re: I wouldn't trade Augustin for two All-Stars 

Post#30 » by fatlever » Sun Dec 14, 2008 11:01 pm

god. just read that blazer thread about ray. yeah, dude has his faults and drives us all a little mad at times, but wow, he is undervalued by their posters. ray would be a great fit next to roy. his defense alone makes him more valuable than any pg they've had in the past 5 years. oh well, dont worry blazer fans, i'm pretty sure we arent throwing ray in on deals just as salary filler.
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Re: I wouldn't trade Augustin for two All-Stars 

Post#31 » by dmutombo321 » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:29 am

fatlever wrote: oh well, dont worry blazer fans, i'm pretty sure we arent throwing ray in on deals just as salary filler.


Philosophically, all the trade ideas they were tossing around to land Wallace & Felton/Augustin for their mediocre expendables were ridiculous.

But, as a practical matter, after last week's Jrich give away, I wouldnt put anything past our distinguished front office.
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Re: I wouldn't trade Augustin for two All-Stars 

Post#32 » by BobsBuddy » Mon Dec 15, 2008 11:19 am

:meditate: :noway: I agree with dmuto123 about the front office and also about his proposaed trade with Portland, but all this is a moot subjest because the Bobcats already have planned their next move. They knew it before jrich was shipped out... Stay tuned for another multi player trade sometime before Christmas?

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