Stat of the Day: Ultimate PG comparison

[bobcatters]

As you point out, and to no fault of your own, there is no way to break this down scientifically without coach's tape and a lot of time to chart games. As a general rule, when both are in the game Augustin runs the point, but I project that between 33% and 40% of the time they are in together, Felton is still running the point and Augustin is the 2. Often times, Augustin brings the ball into the frontcourt, but then hands it off to Felton while he floats to the wing. We are talking semantics but I would argue that Felton rarely plays a true offguard under Coach Brown. You rarely see him running the baseline or taking corner threes.

This seems to make more sense since Augustin can shoot. To Felton's credit, he does a remarkable job guarding 2's at his size.

On to another issue. I imagine that you are of the school of thought that Carroll has not forgotten how to shoot this year. I credit his poor shooting to indecision caused by Coach Brown's disdain for the outside shot. Early in training camp, Carroll was called onto the carpet for making a three too early in a possession. I posit and anecdotal evidence supports that he is a touch hesitant when pulling the trigger and that is all it takes for a shooter to be off. Carroll has never been known for taking a bad shots and he certainly has had the green light his entire adult life. I cannot help but wonder if having a yellow light for the first time in his career, along with the inconsistent minutes, is the root cause of his poor shooting this year.

Thoughts?

[Rich4114]

Interesting point you bring up on Carroll. No way is he as bad a shooter as his stats show. A guy doesn't shoot a certain % for 3 years and then all of the sudden shoot poorly. Some guys work in LB's offense and some don't. Look at Morrison, the guy can't get anything going in this type of offense. It's sad too because he is really best as a half court scorer, but we only use him for spot up 3's. If we could just create some screens for him and use him more like a Rip Hamilton, we could maybe get the most out of him.

LB certainly can make any team play good defense, we're way better defensively than we've ever been. But offensively... last in scoring in the NBA. That would be behind the Thunder and T-Wolves and stuff.

[bobcatters]

I like Brown and am really happy he is our coach. However, he judged Carroll, Morrison, May, and a few others before he even got here and really has not let any of them earn his trust. Morrison and May may be lost causes, but Carroll I dont get. He was a major part of the reason that the Bobcats finished the year strong. He and Richardson spaced the floor and opened up the middle. This made Wallace, Okafor and Felton better as there was more room to operate. I am not saying Brown should have started Carroll, but why not give him 20-25 minutes a night for a week and see if he can play in Brown's system.

The counter is Carroll's defense, but I have argued for years that Carroll does not hurt you on defense. He isnt a shutdown guy by any stretch, but he is always in position, plays physical and gives effort. Quick guards will blow by him, but in the NBA, quick guards blow by most players. The rules promote it.

[BigSlam]

Look at Morrison, the guy can't get anything going in this type of offense. It's sad too because he is really best as a half court scorer, but we only use him for spot up 3's. If we could just create some screens for him and use him more like a Rip Hamilton, we could maybe get the most out of him.

We do - but he's not good enough to get his shot off, quick enough to shake his defender or athletic enough to turn around the screen sharp enough. Ammo could NEVER play the game the way Rip does. Rip is quick, fearless and never gets tired.

Ammo is none of those three things.

Hammer is a different story. I always liked him playing off the bench "back in the day". His strength was being able to check into a game and knock down J's like he was sleep walking once open. Coming in off the bench and being an unknown allowed him to stay under the radar and to get his shots. The difference now is that opposing teams know his MO and can nullify his effect on the game by taking his open J's away from him and making him work harder. He needs to grow his game. He needs to take it to the hole more (which he is trying to do) and use a short dribble and pull up to keep his defender on their heels to be effective again.


Back to the original topic though - looking forward to looking at the PG stats at the end of the season and after Boris has had more time to adjust and help both PG's out with the ball movement.