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Is it time to let Morrison get some actual playing time and real shots like last night? I always feel bad cause Larry has just been sticking him in there to take last second shots at the end of quarters and I always thought that really sucked for a guys confidence to only give him such low percentage opportunities..
last night Larry let Ammo be himself, a scorer, not a spot up shooter. I just hope the trend continues
edit: props to him for not letting Garnett intimidate him with the elbow
last night Larry let Ammo be himself, a scorer, not a spot up shooter. I just hope the trend continues
edit: props to him for not letting Garnett intimidate him with the elbow
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LB must be told he would be in charge of trades of have a say. It's the only thing that makes sence that AMMO plays. I agree AMMO should play at least 20-25 minutes a game unless he is playing really bad to either give him a chance to prove he can be a scorer off the bench which we desperately need scorers and bench players or to showcase him. He has no value but he should. Somebody should be willing to take him on or if he can give us double figure scoring that would be nice.
If Larry gives him pt again he is our gm or assistant gm and heres why
Reasons to think Larry is now in charge or partly in charge
1.We drafted a pg when we have Felton over A Center who is gonna be awesome in Lopez. (By the way I am not saying that was bad it just has Larry Brown written all over it)
2.Our SG is now Raja Bell instead of Jason Richardson. We traded our best player who is a flashy dunker who is in love with the 3 for the best defensive sg and a role player. (Again I love the deal this is not a mock just pointing out how Larry Brown this is and when Diaw was a Sun he was just a role player)
3.We tried to move AMMO and couldn't and now he is getting minutes. If LB wasn't involved in a gm role he would never play a guy to showcase him. LB is the type of coach who does what he wants and wouldn't do that.
With all that said LB has forced some teams to make horrible trades and while he wouldn't be my first choice as gm he also isn't the worst. There best pick of the draft was probably made by him.
If Larry gives him pt again he is our gm or assistant gm and heres why
Reasons to think Larry is now in charge or partly in charge
1.We drafted a pg when we have Felton over A Center who is gonna be awesome in Lopez. (By the way I am not saying that was bad it just has Larry Brown written all over it)
2.Our SG is now Raja Bell instead of Jason Richardson. We traded our best player who is a flashy dunker who is in love with the 3 for the best defensive sg and a role player. (Again I love the deal this is not a mock just pointing out how Larry Brown this is and when Diaw was a Sun he was just a role player)
3.We tried to move AMMO and couldn't and now he is getting minutes. If LB wasn't involved in a gm role he would never play a guy to showcase him. LB is the type of coach who does what he wants and wouldn't do that.
With all that said LB has forced some teams to make horrible trades and while he wouldn't be my first choice as gm he also isn't the worst. There best pick of the draft was probably made by him.
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Larry isn't in charge and isn't authorized to make decisions. Period. However, he's going to push and push and push for players he wants and management is going to concede. Why are they going to concede? Because he's Larry F-in Brown and he knows more then management and they know it!!! When they stop conceding LB will move on to the next stop. This scenario has played out time and time again.
Morrison doesn't play because he's not a defensive guy and his offensive game isn't exactly textbook. His PT has nothing to do with who is pulling the strings. My guess is that you'll see Matty play in games that are more half court oriented and Adam play in games that we are trying to push the ball. I don't see LB letting Adam play the type of game he played in college. I wish he would because its awesome to watch.
I'd also like to note that its ludicris to jump to any conclusions whatsoever based on a few games PT, particularly with Raja out.
Morrison doesn't play because he's not a defensive guy and his offensive game isn't exactly textbook. His PT has nothing to do with who is pulling the strings. My guess is that you'll see Matty play in games that are more half court oriented and Adam play in games that we are trying to push the ball. I don't see LB letting Adam play the type of game he played in college. I wish he would because its awesome to watch.
I'd also like to note that its ludicris to jump to any conclusions whatsoever based on a few games PT, particularly with Raja out.
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What FoP said.
And management should NEVER stop conceding...because he'll always be Larry F'n Brown and Jordan will never have a clue on how to build a team.
I'm hopeful that this stop is different (which is probably what every team thought); he's getting up in years and he's now "home". I think it's important to him that MJ succeed and for the Bobcats in North Carolina to succeed. It wouldn't surprise me if he stayed his entire contract and then moved into the FO...and if he did he'd still be better than the rest of the group.
Because he's Larry F'n Brown.
And management should NEVER stop conceding...because he'll always be Larry F'n Brown and Jordan will never have a clue on how to build a team.
I'm hopeful that this stop is different (which is probably what every team thought); he's getting up in years and he's now "home". I think it's important to him that MJ succeed and for the Bobcats in North Carolina to succeed. It wouldn't surprise me if he stayed his entire contract and then moved into the FO...and if he did he'd still be better than the rest of the group.
Because he's Larry F'n Brown.
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Are you kidding me? Lets trade him to the Clippers. They've now acquired Hassan Adams (who I don't even think was averaging 1 pt per game and Cheikh Samb). They'd probably cough up a first for a player like Adam Morrison.
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Precisely. Morrison doesnt play because when he enters the game he has a bullseye on his back, and teams go after him on the offensive end, and I dont care if its Austin Croshere that Morrison might be guarding, the opposing coach will tell that player to go drill him.
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I do think LB is not the final decision maker but he is pulling some strings and that's just my opinion. I do think that is a good thing because I agree he is smarter then MJ.
I would love to think that LB is home but the problem is his history shows that's not true. Sopposedly NY was his dream job to.
He also said himself MJ is the ONLY reason he is there. That doesn't sound like he is home.
I hope I am wrong.
I can't wait for AMMO to be traded. I would love to trade Ammo for a second round pick of the Clippers. I think that would be a steal for us.
I would love to think that LB is home but the problem is his history shows that's not true. Sopposedly NY was his dream job to.
He also said himself MJ is the ONLY reason he is there. That doesn't sound like he is home.
I hope I am wrong.
I can't wait for AMMO to be traded. I would love to trade Ammo for a second round pick of the Clippers. I think that would be a steal for us.
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^ Yeah but the dude's like 68, his mom is here and he has Dean Smith near where he can come watch them every once and a while (he & R. Williams were in Wilmington this fall). MJ is going to be here too, and I think (hope!) he will like what LB is doing with the team and will let him do his thing.
Here's hoping Ammo has another good shooting game...build some value up!
Here's hoping Ammo has another good shooting game...build some value up!
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Well I hope he stays but they got to win. I think the key to the Bobcats future is gonna be 8 things
1.Dont trade Gerald Wallace
2.Don't trade Gerald Wallace
3.Don't trade Gerald Wallace
4.Good draft picks from now on
5.We need to get something decent for Felton and Ammo and hopefu
lly trade Bell by the 19th for a good prospect because it makes sence for both parties.
6.Mek has to become aggressive and maybe learn to hit a 15 footer
7.DJ has to stay healthy. The game will come to him but he just need health.
8.Diaw must play consistant.
1.Dont trade Gerald Wallace
2.Don't trade Gerald Wallace
3.Don't trade Gerald Wallace
4.Good draft picks from now on
5.We need to get something decent for Felton and Ammo and hopefu
lly trade Bell by the 19th for a good prospect because it makes sence for both parties.
6.Mek has to become aggressive and maybe learn to hit a 15 footer
7.DJ has to stay healthy. The game will come to him but he just need health.
8.Diaw must play consistant.
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Dexmor wrote:I can't wait for AMMO to be traded. I would love to trade Ammo for a second round pick of the Clippers. I think that would be a steal for us.
That would be cutting off our nose to spite our face.
If that's all we could get for him I'd rather hang onto him.
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Hang on to him for what? This game reminded me you can't showcase a scrub. A second rounder might be a contributor or perhaps a steal espially one in the 30's-40's. Mario Chalmbers.
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Henry Abbot had this to say in True Hoops today:
I think that this is true of Morrison as well as Belinelli. In fairness his injury and 1st season issues really put him behind in terms of adapting, but the NBA is unforgiving. Unless he is able to adapt to the league then he will be out of it soon.
A thought I had watching Marco Belinelli last night: The NBA can be hard on multi-talented young players. Here's what I mean: Belinelli, as a delight of Summer League a couple of years ago, was a guy who could score a dozen different ways. But over time, against NBA defense, I think we have learned that maybe nine or ten of those ways are low enough percentage, against regular season defense, that you'd just about never pick that among the other options on the floor. (A Belinelli virtuoso drive is cool if a summer-leaguer like Nate Funk is plan B. But in the NBA, Corey Maggette, Jamal Crawford, and Andris Biedrins await touches.) When you get to the NBA, you unpack all of your tools. You figure out which are truly quality compared to other NBA players. The other ones? You put them way, throw them away, or replace them through hard work.
I think that this is true of Morrison as well as Belinelli. In fairness his injury and 1st season issues really put him behind in terms of adapting, but the NBA is unforgiving. Unless he is able to adapt to the league then he will be out of it soon.
My picks:
2020 Draft (3rd pick) - Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Vassell, or Onyeka Okongwu
2021 Draft (11th pick) - Moses Moody
2020 Draft (3rd pick) - Tyrese Haliburton, Devin Vassell, or Onyeka Okongwu
2021 Draft (11th pick) - Moses Moody
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Yes and he is not a young player. He is 25 years old.
That is why I would take a 2nd round pick for him if its impossible to package him. I can think of a gew guys not in the league that could be better. Ewing JR seems decent.
He is clearly not gonna make it.
Steve if your reading this I swear I am not asking this to be a prick but why do you like him? He's not terrible exciting and not very good at anything basketball wise. There are guys I like who aren't that great but there is always something I like about them. What about him?
That is why I would take a 2nd round pick for him if its impossible to package him. I can think of a gew guys not in the league that could be better. Ewing JR seems decent.
He is clearly not gonna make it.
Steve if your reading this I swear I am not asking this to be a prick but why do you like him? He's not terrible exciting and not very good at anything basketball wise. There are guys I like who aren't that great but there is always something I like about them. What about him?
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Morrison is a bust who will never live up to his #3 overall draft position.
However, to say he will be out of the league and suggest trading him for a second rounf pick is pretty ridiculous. I expect him to have a long, albeit undistinguished career in the NBA. Will he be a 20ppg scorer getting 10 mil / year contracts? - No, of course not. But there will be plenty of teams prepared to offer him short duration contracts for the vetern's minimum, maybe a little more.
He'll never be even a marginal defender; he lacked the athleticsm to begin with and blowing out a knee didnt help matters there. And granted, he's been an inconsistant and disappoints more times than not. But he's still a very smart scorer who, in the right system, can provide an offensive spark off the bench.
There is no way Charlotte would have made it to OT to win that Boston game had it not been for Morrison's 13 points in 15 minutes off the bench. He had a couple other nice double figure scoring games earlier in the season too.
However, to say he will be out of the league and suggest trading him for a second rounf pick is pretty ridiculous. I expect him to have a long, albeit undistinguished career in the NBA. Will he be a 20ppg scorer getting 10 mil / year contracts? - No, of course not. But there will be plenty of teams prepared to offer him short duration contracts for the vetern's minimum, maybe a little more.
He'll never be even a marginal defender; he lacked the athleticsm to begin with and blowing out a knee didnt help matters there. And granted, he's been an inconsistant and disappoints more times than not. But he's still a very smart scorer who, in the right system, can provide an offensive spark off the bench.
There is no way Charlotte would have made it to OT to win that Boston game had it not been for Morrison's 13 points in 15 minutes off the bench. He had a couple other nice double figure scoring games earlier in the season too.
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I am still Big on Hughes for Carroll or Hughs for Morrision/nazr, and May. Either way Adam wins and the bobcats win ,,,Adam gets more minutes either with Chicago or staying with us. The bobcats shead salary cap and can sign free agents after this season. Chicago gets quality backup center or 3 point specialist. Chicago also gets Mays expiring contract or maybe gets 10-15 minutes from him a night signing him for minmium next year.
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Well in a second round pick you hope for a guy who can be in the league and may sign vet min contracts at least. What you possibly can get is a guy of your choice. You can get lucky and end up with a star (i wont list all the 2nd round picks because we know all the steals over the years) or a guy who is a decent role player that fits the role you want.
We know at best AMMO will be a 10-15 minute a game guy. With a second round pick u will probably get a guy that doesnt make it but you could get somebody pretty damm good who does at least 15 minutes a game.
We have a future second round steal on our team right now in Sean Singletary.
That's not to mention the guys who you can keep overseas for a year and who would be a high draft pick if teams would wait like Marc Gasol.
KP style of collecting draft picks works. We should try it if at all possible.
That is my defense on why I would take a 2nd round over Morrison. I am not saying I would rather have a bag of chips or is it sopposed to be a personal attack on ammo just my choice.
You do even get a roster spot and I think Ewing Jr could play and he is out there.
We know at best AMMO will be a 10-15 minute a game guy. With a second round pick u will probably get a guy that doesnt make it but you could get somebody pretty damm good who does at least 15 minutes a game.
We have a future second round steal on our team right now in Sean Singletary.
That's not to mention the guys who you can keep overseas for a year and who would be a high draft pick if teams would wait like Marc Gasol.
KP style of collecting draft picks works. We should try it if at all possible.
That is my defense on why I would take a 2nd round over Morrison. I am not saying I would rather have a bag of chips or is it sopposed to be a personal attack on ammo just my choice.
You do even get a roster spot and I think Ewing Jr could play and he is out there.
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This team cant afford to have Morrison on the floor for 20+ minutes a game unless he is scoring. He has tried to turn himself into too much of a one dimensional player. There have been many times this year where I look at the boxscore to see him going 1-6 and 5 or all of those shots being from three point range. His shot selection has been bad, and his defense, although slightly better is still horrific.
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