Zach Randolph and/or Chris Kaman?

shagadelic45 · Post #1 » by **shagadelic45** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:50 pm

seems like Okafor needs a high-post, scoring compliment next to him for the best pairing....regardless which one you consider a pf or center. Do Zach Randolph and/or Chris Kaman from the LA Clippers work for you guys?

Post #2 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:58 pm

shagadelic45 wrote:seems like Okafor needs a high-post, scoring compliment next to him for the best pairing....regardless which one you consider a pf or center. Do Zach Randolph and/or Chris Kaman from the LA Clippers work for you guys?

We have a high post scoring option in Diaw.

No need for Kaman or Z-Bo.

Dexmor · Post #3 » by **Dexmor** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:43 pm

Diaw is capable of being a high post scoring option but he doesn't like to score. He is much more comfortable in a passing role. Doesn't it look like he can clearly average 20 a game? Even if he still passed alot he could get his 20 but he tends to be unaggressive scoring wise. He often goes for really light layups when he should be dunking it.
He is an incredible passer though. I love his game.
Chris Kaman works for me. Zack is not team oriented enough for me and has a bad tude even though he is far more talented then anybody in the conversation. I don't think we can get Kaman for Wallace and Felton though. I wouldn't give up Diaw or DJ so I don't know what else would work.

shagadelic45 · Post #4 » by **shagadelic45** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 8:55 pm

what if wallace goes inthe deal and then Diaw moves to SF (he's better position)..?

Post #5 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:12 pm

I wouldn't trade Crash for Z-Bo or Kaman so it's a moot point for me.

Dexmor · Post #6 » by **Dexmor** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:24 pm

No Diaw plays better at the 4. He is way better in the Post making plays playing back to the basket.
He would draw more fouls playing the 3 and tire out faster. He can play the 3 because he is a terrific 3 point shooter.

shagadelic45 · Post #7 » by **shagadelic45** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:23 pm

i think larry brown differs

Dexmor · Post #8 » by **Dexmor** » Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:54 pm

What makes you say that. You know Larry Brown plays Diaw at the 4 don't you?

Bigslam-with all the trade rumors out there for Wallace you wouldn't trade Crash for Kaman?
I would only because I am starting to think Mek might really be better playing the 4 and there gonna trade Wallace anyway and the rumors out there really suck like Brad Miller. Even Lamar Odom was a rumor for Wallace and that was the best one I have heard so being that he'll likely be traded for not much I think Kaman would be good from a talent standpoint and as a good fit. They would have one of the biggest frontcourt's in the league and one of the best rebounding frontline. They would have 3 players upfront that can all play C which shows you the size. Diaw playing the sf isn't his best suit but he can do it and would score alot on 3 pointers. He is a great 3 point shooter and would spread the floor well.
Kaman would allow Mek to go to the 4 and he would still be more athletic then the other player alot of the time. He would be stronger then the opposing 4 every single game and instead of being undersized he would be taller then most. They would also have a player to dump the ball into who is a legit go to guy. He would draw double teams that would give Mek open dunks. We would also not live and die with Mek deciding to play aggressive offensively that game or not. Plus Kaman playing next to a defensive rebounding monster like Mek along with Diaw passing him the ball would make him completely breakout. Kaman would probably average 22 points 9 boards an a few blocks.
Out shooters would greatly benefit because Mek is not the best kick out player but Kaman is good at that and DIaw is to.

coordinator0 · Post #9 » by **coordinator0** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:02 am

Dexmor wrote:What makes you say that. You know Larry Brown plays Diaw at the 4 don't you?

Bigslam-with all the trade rumors out there for Wallace you wouldn't trade Crash for Kaman?
I would only because I am starting to think Mek might really be better playing the 4 and there gonna trade Wallace anyway and the rumors out there really suck like Brad Miller. Even Lamar Odom was a rumor for Wallace and that was the best one I have heard so being that he'll likely be traded for not much I think Kaman would be good from a talent standpoint and as a good fit. They would have one of the biggest frontcourt's in the league and one of the best rebounding frontline. They would have 3 players upfront that can all play C which shows you the size. Diaw playing the sf isn't his best suit but he can do it and would score alot on 3 pointers. He is a great 3 point shooter and would spread the floor well.
Kaman would allow Mek to go to the 4 and he would still be more athletic then the other player alot of the time. He would be stronger then the opposing 4 every single game and instead of being undersized he would be taller then most. They would also have a player to dump the ball into who is a legit go to guy. He would draw double teams that would give Mek open dunks. We would also not live and die with Mek deciding to play aggressive offensively that game or not. Plus Kaman playing next to a defensive rebounding monster like Mek along with Diaw passing him the ball would make him completely breakout. Kaman would probably average 22 points 9 boards an a few blocks.
Out shooters would greatly benefit because Mek is not the best kick out player but Kaman is good at that and DIaw is to.

I completely agree with this post. Diaw at the 3 with Mek and kaman at the 4 would give us size, shot-blocking, and Kaman can even shoot a decent % from the FT line. Maybe he can even shoot the mid-range jumper, but I haven't seen enough of him to make that statement (he's a 73% FT shooter for his career, not bad for a C). I would love a trade of Wallace for Kaman, although Kaman coming from Michigan may draw out a little homerism for me...

Dexmor · Post #10 » by **Dexmor** » Sun Jan 11, 2009 2:40 pm

Yes he can shoot the jumper.

Also watching last night's game it became apperent to me Mek will never be a consistant 20 point a game scorer and we need somebody else down low. He airballed a free throw in the 4th vs GS, he airballed a 8 foot shot last night vs the Wiz. He is lacking confidence, he is not comptetive enough even though he hustles and works hard which is why he never demands the ball. He doesn't really want the ball in the 4th because he lacks confidence in himself.
This is why he has the potential to be a 20 and 11 guy but never will be. He is much more comfortable being a Buck Williams type guy. A guy who shows up in his hard hat everyday and works hard but a role player and not the focul point. You can't make a guy like that your go to guy because it's just not gonna work. He doesn't have what it takes mentally. Diaw also doesn't get quite enough rebounds at the 4. He also is a sharp shooter so the 3 is not bad for him. It gives him the ball more to create as opposed to having to get it in the post to do that which will turn down his turnovers.

shagadelic45 · Post #11 » by **shagadelic45** » Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:42 pm

sounds like Randolph's offense is a good fit next to Okafor