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[Walt Cronkite]

I believe I read recently that Evans hired an agent.

[Dexmor]

This is insane. The Bobcats didn't make the playoffs and you don't think they should be retooling or rebuilding? So they are an expansion team so we should try and be an 8th seed because that's right?
No.
We clearly need to get more parts.

We don't even have 1 star or a go to guy.

Why are you guys so happy with average?

This is North Carolina for god sakes, I thought before moving here this was basketball country. It's not. We should be along with NY,LA,Chicago,NC, for our expections. The Knicks suck but they are doing anything to win and the fans are not happy with average.

How can anybody think a lotto team shouldnt be rebuilding? And please don't say after the trade we were 19-17 or whatever because that's not very good. We should try and get players that eventually can bring a banner to NC.
that's the goal unless your just happy having a team. If that is the case we will have to agree to disagree, i have different standards.

[Walt Cronkite]

You're not being at all practical. The franchise only gained fans AFTER the Diaw/Bell trade. It's the most successful the team has ever been and the fans showed support by going to watch the team.

Rebuilding the way you're thinking, where we scrap the roster, trade for prospects and draft picks and try to build a contender would maybe bring a banner to the Bobcats eventually, but not NC... because the team would leave because it would continue to bleed money without fan support.

NC basketball fans are fans of good basketball. No one in this state wants to watch a crappy pro team in their free time because they can just watch well run college teams instead.

Take your own medicine for once and look at your list of guys that are untouchable in the league. Then consider that those are the ONLY true star players in the league that you would be happy with having one of (and you want two). HOW do we get one of those guys? HOW DO WE DO THAT!? They're already untouchable, so we can't acquire them that way. They're not going to Charlotte as FA because the team doesn't have a rich history or a shot at contending. The only way to get one of those stars to the Bobcats is to draft one of them and this draft is short on star power.

So then YOU, not the rest of us, need to retool your expectations. The team has to continue to get better, make the playoffs for a number of seasons and consistently improving and once there is a large fan base that cares about the team and you're gotten the most out of what's around, THEN you rebuild the right way.

We've only had the full cap space available for 2 seasons and we'd be in the playoffs by now if we made better draft selections, but we've sucked balls at drafting (which is why I don't think stock piling draft picks is a good strategy).

I want the Bobcats to be a force, I want them to contend for Championships, but small market teams don't do that unless they draft Tim Duncan (SAS) or Shaquille O'Neal (ORL). LB knows how to build a small market team. He's had success everywhere he's been except for NY, where the "win now, even if our players suck" (sound familiar???) attitude ran him our of town. They sure as hell don't rebuild during season 6 when they're already close to being down for the count.

[Dexmor]

You're not being at all practical. The franchise only gained fans AFTER the Diaw/Bell trade. It's the most successful the team has ever been and the fans showed support by going to watch the team.

Rebuilding the way you're thinking, where we scrap the roster, trade for prospects and draft picks and try to build a contender would maybe bring a banner to the Bobcats eventually, but not NC... because the team would leave because it would continue to bleed money without fan support.

NC basketball fans are fans of good basketball. No one in this state wants to watch a crappy pro team in their free time because they can just watch well run college teams instead.

Take your own medicine for once and look at your list of guys that are untouchable in the league. Then consider that those are the ONLY true star players in the league that you would be happy with having one of (and you want two). HOW do we get one of those guys? HOW DO WE DO THAT!? They're already untouchable, so we can't acquire them that way. They're not going to Charlotte as FA because the team doesn't have a rich history or a shot at contending. The only way to get one of those stars to the Bobcats is to draft one of them and this draft is short on star power.

So then YOU, not the rest of us, need to retool your expectations. The team has to continue to get better, make the playoffs for a number of seasons and consistently improving and once there is a large fan base that cares about the team and you're gotten the most out of what's around, THEN you rebuild the right way.

We've only had the full cap space available for 2 seasons and we'd be in the playoffs by now if we made better draft selections, but we've sucked balls at drafting (which is why I don't think stock piling draft picks is a good strategy).

I want the Bobcats to be a force, I want them to contend for Championships, but small market teams don't do that unless they draft Tim Duncan (SAS) or Shaquille O'Neal (ORL). LB knows how to build a small market team. He's had success everywhere he's been except for NY, where the "win now, even if our players suck" (sound familiar???) attitude ran him our of town. They sure as hell don't rebuild during season 6 when they're already close to being down for the count.

You got me all wrong. I didn't say or mean scrath the entire roster. I am saying we still got work to do with the roster. It's like we built a good team and got all the good role playes to put around the stars but we don't have the stars.


The Hawks are a good example of a young team who is just growing. They don't need trades and probably won't make any. Now us we have to be open to trades and make moves to get a go to guy and a real 2nd option and that could meaning trading some core players. I don't mean trade everybody just for trading sakes and everybody must go. Rebuilding doesn't always mean dismantling and start from scratch or at least that's what I thought.

[spectre_]

You're not being at all practical. The franchise only gained fans AFTER the Diaw/Bell trade. It's the most successful the team has ever been and the fans showed support by going to watch the team.

Rebuilding the way you're thinking, where we scrap the roster, trade for prospects and draft picks and try to build a contender would maybe bring a banner to the Bobcats eventually, but not NC... because the team would leave because it would continue to bleed money without fan support.

NC basketball fans are fans of good basketball. No one in this state wants to watch a crappy pro team in their free time because they can just watch well run college teams instead.

Take your own medicine for once and look at your list of guys that are untouchable in the league. Then consider that those are the ONLY true star players in the league that you would be happy with having one of (and you want two). HOW do we get one of those guys? HOW DO WE DO THAT!? They're already untouchable, so we can't acquire them that way. They're not going to Charlotte as FA because the team doesn't have a rich history or a shot at contending. The only way to get one of those stars to the Bobcats is to draft one of them and this draft is short on star power.

So then YOU, not the rest of us, need to retool your expectations. The team has to continue to get better, make the playoffs for a number of seasons and consistently improving and once there is a large fan base that cares about the team and you're gotten the most out of what's around, THEN you rebuild the right way.

We've only had the full cap space available for 2 seasons and we'd be in the playoffs by now if we made better draft selections, but we've sucked balls at drafting (which is why I don't think stock piling draft picks is a good strategy).

I want the Bobcats to be a force, I want them to contend for Championships, but small market teams don't do that unless they draft Tim Duncan (SAS) or Shaquille O'Neal (ORL). LB knows how to build a small market team. He's had success everywhere he's been except for NY, where the "win now, even if our players suck" (sound familiar???) attitude ran him our of town. They sure as hell don't rebuild during season 6 when they're already close to being down for the count.

Exactly right.

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That is all.

[Dexmor]

Im not saying lets get Wade and Bosh. I am not unrealistic. I said an allstar or 20 points a game guy never said superstar. And I didn't say I want 2 of them I said a #2. Meaning a #2 scorer. RJ is an example of a #2 scorer. Rip Hamilton would be a good #2 scorer. Thad Young will be a great #2 scorer maybe even #1.

If you look around the league every team has a #1 and #2 except for maybe 4 teams max and we are one of them.