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is it time to trade wallace?

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should we trade wallace this year?

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Re: is it time to trade wallace? 

Post#121 » by Tupik » Tue Dec 7, 2010 10:16 pm

Boris used to be extremely athletic and agile. Unfortunately, the tendency for NBA trainers to systematically want players to bulk up (which is really frustrating in this case because Diaw didn't need to, his game was not based on physique at all), combined afterwards with his bad hum... nutrition, has lead him to become hum... fat as ****.

Also, lol@ you for saying France isn't known for its highflyers. Our country is loaded with hyperathletic players that can't shoot.
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Re: is it time to trade wallace? 

Post#122 » by penquin11 » Wed Dec 8, 2010 11:26 am

Tupik wrote:Boris used to be extremely athletic and agile. Unfortunately, the tendency for NBA trainers to systematically want players to bulk up (which is really frustrating in this case because Diaw didn't need to, his game was not based on physique at all), combined afterwards with his bad hum... nutrition, has lead him to become hum... fat as ****.

Also, lol@ you for saying France isn't known for its highflyers. Our country is loaded with hyperathletic players that can't shoot.


Im just saying that when you compare it to the USA's amount is smaller (is to be expected with our population advantage) also forgive me for comming accross wrong, I just cant get a read on European players to save my life, so generally I stay away from them. To be honest if you told me that in the upcomming draft I had to pick the best Euro star available or the world would end, the world would end...... Plus Boris is pretty athletic, just not on the same scale as a player like say LBJ or even Tyrus Thomas (who is a monster).... Plus I love Diaw this year, I have no reason why I do but I sort of like how he plays, he plays the game with almost an artistic approach
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Re: is it time to trade wallace? 

Post#123 » by Bassman » Wed Dec 8, 2010 1:29 pm

penquin11 wrote:..... Plus Boris is pretty athletic, just not on the same scale as a player like say LBJ or even Tyrus Thomas (who is a monster).... Plus I love Diaw this year, I have no reason why I do but I sort of like how he plays, he plays the game with almost an artistic approach
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An artist's approach is appreciated when that artist works hard at their craft every game (e.g. Steve Nash). Boris is more the lazy artist who get's inspired one moment, but far too contemplative or distracted the next. His "work" displays such indifference, which leads to our frustration as fans of the Cats.

I have no problem trading Crash if we got quality value for him via a killer 2 guard or a 5. I just don't see it happening here.
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Re: is it time to trade wallace? 

Post#124 » by BigSlam » Wed Dec 8, 2010 11:47 pm

The problem with trading Crash now is that his value is at an all time low.

I wonder if all the years of injuries and playing flat out have started to take their toll? I've never seen him blow as many dunks and layups or rely on as many jump shots as he is now. Maybe he just doesn't have it in him any more. It's not like he's a Grant Hill type who's athletic ability only served to compliment his actual basketball ability.

Crash is the other way around, so if you take that athletic ability away, what are you left with?
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Re: is it time to trade wallace? 

Post#125 » by captaincrunk » Wed Dec 8, 2010 11:50 pm

BigSlam wrote:The problem with trading Crash now is that his value is at an all time low.

I wonder if all the years of injuries and playing flat out have started to take their toll? I've never seen him blow as many dunks and layups or rely on as many jump shots as he is now. Maybe he just doesn't have it in him any more. It's not like he's a Grant Hill type who's athletic ability only served to compliment his actual basketball ability.

Crash is the other way around, so if you take that athletic ability away, what are you left with?

I don't think a weakening athelticism can account for a missed layup though.
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Re: is it time to trade wallace? 

Post#126 » by Jaruff » Wed Dec 8, 2010 11:57 pm

BigSlam wrote:The problem with trading Crash now is that his value is at an all time low.

I wonder if all the years of injuries and playing flat out have started to take their toll? I've never seen him blow as many dunks and layups or rely on as many jump shots as he is now. Maybe he just doesn't have it in him any more. It's not like he's a Grant Hill type who's athletic ability only served to compliment his actual basketball ability.

Crash is the other way around, so if you take that athletic ability away, what are you left with?


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Re: is it time to trade wallace? 

Post#127 » by BigSlam » Thu Dec 9, 2010 12:53 am

captaincrunk wrote:
BigSlam wrote:The problem with trading Crash now is that his value is at an all time low.

I wonder if all the years of injuries and playing flat out have started to take their toll? I've never seen him blow as many dunks and layups or rely on as many jump shots as he is now. Maybe he just doesn't have it in him any more. It's not like he's a Grant Hill type who's athletic ability only served to compliment his actual basketball ability.

Crash is the other way around, so if you take that athletic ability away, what are you left with?

I don't think a weakening athelticism can account for a missed layup though.

It would if his body is failing him/regressing. The mind might be willing but if the body isn't up to it everything will be out of sync.

Know what I mean?
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Re: is it time to trade wallace? 

Post#128 » by BigSlam » Thu Dec 9, 2010 12:54 am

Jaruff wrote:
BigSlam wrote:The problem with trading Crash now is that his value is at an all time low.

I wonder if all the years of injuries and playing flat out have started to take their toll? I've never seen him blow as many dunks and layups or rely on as many jump shots as he is now. Maybe he just doesn't have it in him any more. It's not like he's a Grant Hill type who's athletic ability only served to compliment his actual basketball ability.

Crash is the other way around, so if you take that athletic ability away, what are you left with?


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Re: is it time to trade wallace? 

Post#129 » by captaincrunk » Thu Dec 9, 2010 1:02 am

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captaincrunk wrote:
BigSlam wrote:The problem with trading Crash now is that his value is at an all time low.

I wonder if all the years of injuries and playing flat out have started to take their toll? I've never seen him blow as many dunks and layups or rely on as many jump shots as he is now. Maybe he just doesn't have it in him any more. It's not like he's a Grant Hill type who's athletic ability only served to compliment his actual basketball ability.

Crash is the other way around, so if you take that athletic ability away, what are you left with?

I don't think a weakening athelticism can account for a missed layup though.

It would if his body is failing him/regressing. The mind might be willing but if the body isn't up to it everything will be out of sync.

Know what I mean?

I don't think it would have that big of an effect. I think he's got some nagging injuries and is generally in a slump. Miss a few and you start wondering if you ever made any in the first place, yeah?
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Re: is it time to trade wallace? 

Post#130 » by BigSlam » Thu Dec 9, 2010 1:09 am

captaincrunk wrote:I don't think it would have that big of an effect. I think he's got some nagging injuries and is generally in a slump. Miss a few and you start wondering if you ever made any in the first place, yeah?

You haven't got old and been frustrated about what you used to be able to do but can't do any more - have you CC?

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Re: is it time to trade wallace? 

Post#131 » by fatlever » Thu Dec 9, 2010 2:13 am

i think wallace's value is at an all-time high... coming off all-star game, 1st team defense, team usa, he has been noticed, which is half the battle. also, his contract only has 2 years left at a great rate. teams wont be afraid of his contract knowing he only has 2 years. NOW, is the perfect time to get top rate for him. i dont think the slow start will affect his price tag, at least not yet.
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Re: is it time to trade wallace? 

Post#132 » by captaincrunk » Thu Dec 9, 2010 2:50 am

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captaincrunk wrote:I don't think it would have that big of an effect. I think he's got some nagging injuries and is generally in a slump. Miss a few and you start wondering if you ever made any in the first place, yeah?

You haven't got old and been frustrated about what you used to be able to do but can't do any more - have you CC?

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