Hammers: Bobcats Vs Nuggets

[BigSlam]

I don't have "minions". The majority of us just allow others to have their own opinions and respect them for it.

It is kind of funny (more so telling) that you are often the odd man out though Battery.

I think that says a lot - unless you honestly believe you are just that much more brilliant than everyone else?.............................actually, don't answer that. We already know.



I notice you didn't mention anything about the 3 pointers that Billups drained over Jax in the 4th when Jax was "guarding" him? I also notice you didn't mention the turn over on the drive in the last min that Jax caused. How about the wide open 3 that Jax air balled after Boris got him an awesome look when Jax just camped out at the three point line (like he does 99% of all games).

LB said post game we struggle to create in the half court.

Hey, guess who the black hole is on the team who holds the ball for sometimes 7+ secs at a time and kills our ball movement?

Jax, who is the self claimed biggest, strongest and best SG in the NBA, shot ELEVEN three pointers with Aaron freaking Afflalo guarding him. Get your arse down in the post.

The big, strong, scary Stephen Jackson made 8 field goals last night. Of those 8, FIVE of them were from three. GET YOUR ARSE DOWN IN THE POST.

The big, strong, scary Stephen Jackson took 2 free throw attempts last night. GET YOUR ARSE DOWN IN THE POST.

Jax didn't make great passes. He got cheap passes. He just threw the ball to an open man and guys were hitting their shots. If DJ wasn't so red hot, Jax wouldn't have had 7 assists.

Oh, and Livingston sucks. He's committing Raymond Felton type turn overs out there. If he wasn't 6'7" and was only 6" Livingston wouldn't even be in the NBA - knee injury or not.

But you are entitled to your opinion.

[BigSlam]

HA!! I just noticed something.

Jax was -5 on the game. The only Bobcat player with a worse -/+ was Kwame and he was only at -7.

In fact there was no other Bobcat in the negative except for those two!!

[ajbry]

Slam, normally your takes are solid, but your anti-Jack stuff is getting way out of hand.

He had ONE assist to D.J., and 4 that resulted in layups or dunks. And guys get open looks because Jack draws much more attention than anyone else on the team. That should be a given by now.

Billups hit one three over Jack in the 4th.

Who's the black hole on this team? It's not Jack, it's Gerald.

Wasn't Jack also playing with a bad calf last night anyway? He only went to the free throw line once because he wasn't getting calls, so hitting 5-of-11 threes is a nice contingency plan. Particularly since he made 3 big ones in the 4th quarter which cushioned the lead enough so that it would withstand the airball at the end.

Come on now...

[Battery]

I don't have "minions". The majority of us just allow others to have their own opinions and respect them for it.

It is kind of funny (more so telling) that you are often the odd man out though Battery.

I think that says a lot - unless you honestly believe you are just that much more brilliant than everyone else?.............................actually, don't answer that. We already know.



I notice you didn't mention anything about the 3 pointers that Billups drained over Jax in the 4th when Jax was "guarding" him? I also notice you didn't mention the turn over on the drive in the last min that Jax caused. How about the wide open 3 that Jax air balled after Boris got him an awesome look when Jax just camped out at the three point line (like he does 99% of all games).

LB said post game we struggle to create in the half court.

Hey, guess who the black hole is on the team who holds the ball for sometimes 7+ secs at a time and kills our ball movement?

Jax, who is the self claimed biggest, strongest and best SG in the NBA, shot ELEVEN three pointers with Aaron freaking Afflalo guarding him. Get your arse down in the post.

The big, strong, scary Stephen Jackson made 8 field goals last night. Of those 8, FIVE of them were from three. GET YOUR ARSE DOWN IN THE POST.

The big, strong, scary Stephen Jackson took 2 free throw attempts last night. GET YOUR ARSE DOWN IN THE POST.

Jax didn't make great passes. He got cheap passes. He just threw the ball to an open man and guys were hitting their shots. If DJ wasn't so red hot, Jax wouldn't have had 7 assists.

Oh, and Livingston sucks. He's committing Raymond Felton type turn overs out there. If he wasn't 6'7" and was only 6" Livingston wouldn't even be in the NBA - knee injury or not.

But you are entitled to your opinion.

I'm the odd man out? 6 people gave Jax the gold hammer when you include myself and that's after you pronounced DJ as a future hall of famer and said he was the best player on the court last night.

I'm not even going to ridicule your "Jax didn't make great passes" line because you know it's not true, along with all the other stuff you just posted. You're just being petty. I also notice that you too didn't back up your gold hammer for DJ. Like the What's Happening guy "Duane Wayne," both of you went on to bash other players instead of telling us why DJ deserved the gold hammer. He killed Crash and you kill Jax. I don't get it because this was the best TEAM win all season. Don't have one bad word to say about anyone tonight and all I was responding to was your "DJ was the player on the court" line. I gave my reasons why he wasn't but I didn't see you reasons why he was...

[Battery]

Slam, normally your takes are solid, but your anti-Jack stuff is getting way out of hand.

He had ONE assist to D.J., and 4 that resulted in layups or dunks. And guys get open looks because Jack draws much more attention than anyone else on the team. That should be a given by now.

Billups hit one three over Jack in the 4th.

Who's the black hole on this team? It's not Jack, it's Gerald.

Wasn't Jack also playing with a bad calf last night anyway? He only went to the free throw line once because he wasn't getting calls, so hitting 5-of-11 threes is a nice contingency plan. Particularly since he made 3 big ones in the 4th quarter which cushioned the lead enough so that it would withstand the airball at the end.

Come on now...

[BigSlam]

Slam, normally your takes are solid, but your anti-Jack stuff is getting way out of hand.

He had ONE assist to D.J., and 4 that resulted in layups or dunks. And guys get open looks because Jack draws much more attention than anyone else on the team. That should be a given by now.

Billups hit one three over Jack in the 4th.

Who's the black hole on this team? It's not Jack, it's Gerald.

Wasn't Jack also playing with a bad calf last night anyway? He only went to the free throw line once because he wasn't getting calls, so hitting 5-of-11 threes is a nice contingency plan. Particularly since he made 3 big ones in the 4th quarter which cushioned the lead enough so that it would withstand the airball at the end.

Come on now...

ajbry the "jax got cheap assists" line was a play on Battery's relentless and incorrect stance of how DJ gets his assists. Jax does draw defenders, no doubt which opens up shots for others..........just like DJ draws defenders when he cuts through the key and kicks it out to open guys getting them open looks. When Jax does it he claims he had GREAT passing night and isn't mentioned. When DJ does it he claims it is cheapo stats. It works both ways was my point.

Jax did pass the ball well last night. I really don't think he was our best player though (hence me giving him my Silver Hammer). I think he took some really bad shots last night - and he missed...............a lot!!

Is Crash a black hole? Yep.
Is Jax a black hole? Yep.

Is one worse than the other? Yep - and I would say that person is Jax because Jax HAS great passing abilites yet there are too many times he'll jab step or stand in the triple threat position for what seems like an eternity killing valuable seconds off the shot clock.

Jax didn't get calls because he hardly drove the ball and he sure as heck didn't work the post (even though he was guarded by a much younger, much weaker, much smaller defender for most of the night. The guy is averaging 6 three point attempts a game - that's almost have his fga's. It wasn't just last night. He's camped out at the 3 point line all season.

[BigSlam]

I'm the odd man out? 6 people gave Jax the gold hammer when you include myself

And all but two (you and Fats) had DJ in their Hammers - and usually at Gold or Silver.

I also notice that you too didn't back up your gold hammer for DJ. Like the What's Happening guy "Duane Wayne," both of you went on to bash other players instead of telling us why DJ deserved the gold hammer.

Read the OP.

He killed Crash and you kill Jax.

Giving Jax the Silver isn't "killing" him. I didn't even rate Crash good enough last night to earn a Hammer from me. THAT'S killing him.

I don't get it because this was the best TEAM win all season.

How can you say that? It's not even close. Nazzy was a non factor, Crash was awful, Jax was questionable, Livingston was a train wreck, Kwame was terrible, McGuire was McGuire and we only just snuck out the win.

How is that the best TEAM win?

[GQCoolest]

Phoenix was by far our best win of the year. Unsurprisingly, our best player that night was Jack. When Jack is good, we're a playoff team and we probably win. Jack at his best hits open shots, draws attention and kicks, and plays great D. When Jack is bad, he slows down the offense, takes bad shots, complains to the refs and generally looks uninterested.

Crash is gonna give us what he's gonna give us: Somewhere between 12 and 25 points, 8 to 13 boards, and 5-10 shots from the line. He's shooting a lower percentage, because for some reason, he's being more of a jump shooter. Part of it is that defenders are stating to figure him out and he's being called for significantly more offensive fouls. They're playing off of him, but part of it is because for whatever reason, he's getting set plays called for him to shoot elbow jumpers. He must hit them in practice, otherwise I'd assume they wouldn't call it as often, but damn, the dude can't hit them in games with any consistency.

DJ is obviously just a very divisive player. He doesn't fit Larry's "prototype" point guard in that he's small, not a fantastic defender (although he's a much better defender than the DJ haters give him credit for). His play his rookie year really sparked expectations and showed what he is capable of (and made Felts expendable). DJ is better than Felton backers make him feel, but he may never shoot as well as he did his rookie year. He's a capable point guard. Now that Felts is gone, a lot of people forget him pounding the ball for 16 seconds, rip DJ's defense, and forget the wild passes he'd throw over everyone's head. Both guys have their ups and downs, but DJ making what he makes now is way more valuable than Felts making what he was going to command to stay here.

[Tupik]

Gold : Wallace
Silver : Jax
Bronze : DJ

HM : Thomas

Can't see why you're all giving DJ the gold hammer here, sure he hit some great three point shots, but he did nothing to initiate the offense. I'd give Tyrus a hammer if only he had played more.

[fatlever]

i thought long and hard about giving dj a hammer, but i really loved what diaw did in those last 5 minutes. i know it was only 5 minutes of the game, but it was something we so desperately needed at that time in the game.

i thought dj was good, but mainly he was hitting open jump shots.

as for jax, i missed a big portion of the first half so i didnt see him when he was stinking it up. however, i thought he was fantastic in the 4th (despite being his usual ball-stopper self.

i couldnt put wallace any higher (despite how much he did in the first half) because, like so often, wallace was nowhere to be found on offense in the 4th quarter.

i thought for sure i was going to see the tyrus lovers putting him at gold when i logged on last night. haha. glad that didnt happen.

the main thing is that we had at least 5 guys (maybe 6) who played really great last night against a motivated good team.

[Marvel]

Battery you are (Please Use More Appropriate Word) mate. We all know you have all the hate in the world for DJ, so what do you want us to do........FOLLOW SUIT. PI** OFF. You just contradict yourself calling people minions because we follow Slam's hammers, then somehow question other peoples decisions because we don't have the same hate for DJ as you.

I hate Doris, but i don't get on him as much as you get on DJ and TT and i certainly don't question other posters decisions when they give him a gold hammer.

[captaincrunk]

Honestly I give DJ bonus points for doing well when everyone hates him. He probably wouldn't get the Gold from me if a third of our posters didn't wanna give him the brown frown every game, practice, and meal time.

[Marvel]

Battery wrote

You are entitled to your opinion as am I.

[Battery]

I'm the odd man out? 6 people gave Jax the gold hammer when you include myself

And all but two (you and Fats) had DJ in their Hammers - and usually at Gold or Silver.

But that is not the issue here, you said DJ was the best player on the floor tonight. Stop changing the subject. You never asked me what my hammers were. I would give DJ the 3rd hammer.

Jax
Wallace
DJ

Wallace above DJ because he was directly responsible for setting the tone right from the start. Without his tremendous energy which inspired the entire team we get our doors blown off. Gerald also drew 7 fould and had 2 steals. DJ drew one foul all game and that wasn't until the 3 minutes left in the game, he also had no steals. And you forgot to mention DJ's horrible 3 shot foul on Billups, (4 in total) and also the bad turnover he had late in the 4th.

I also notice that you too didn't back up your gold hammer for DJ. Like the What's Happening guy "Duane Wayne," both of you went on to bash other players instead of telling us why DJ deserved the gold hammer.

Read the OP.

I did read the OP. All you said was DJ hit massive shots. Didn't mention dik about his defense or that he only had one assist in the second half and didn't get to the line And you said nothing nice about S-Jax, didn't even mention those nice passes he made. He had 7 assists and 9 rebounds along with 2 steals and a block. Drew double teams all night and still hit MASSIVE SHOTS in the 4th quarter. Yet all you did was criticize him.

And I just read through the game thread, is this how it's going to be the rest of the season? Sarcastic responses no matter what DJ does? You can hide his weaknesses all you want, still doesn't change the fact that he's just a middle of the pack point guard, nothing special and someone who is easily replaceable should we be fortunate to get a top 5 draft pick.

He killed Crash and you kill Jax.

Giving Jax the Silver isn't "killing" him. I didn't even rate Crash good enough last night to earn a Hammer from me. THAT'S killing him.

Lets face it, you awarded DJ the gold hammer during the third quarter when DJ had a great 3 minute stretch. Nothing anyone could have done in the 4th quarter would have changed your mind. What you also don't mention is that Billups was lighting him up too.

Best player on the court my ass. Best player for about 2 minutes I would agree with.

I don't get it because this was the best TEAM win all season.

How can you say that? It's not even close. Nazzy was a non factor, Crash was awful, Jax was questionable, Livingston was a train wreck, Kwame was terrible, McGuire was McGuire and we only just snuck out the win.

How is that the best TEAM win?

Easy, this was the first game all season where all of our key players came out with energy against a tough team. Crash was awful??? Are you high? You need to go back and watch the first half. Also watch him defensively in the second half. Livingston was a train wreck??? Huh??? What the heck what you watching? He hit a bunch of TOUGH shots in the first half. You are beyond full of sh*t. Can't wait for your happy recap after we play the Pacers Friday. Might as well give DJ the gold hammer now.

[Tupik]

Crash was awful??? Are you high? You need to go back and watch the first half. Also watch him defensively in the second half. Livingston was a train wreck??? Huh??? What the heck what you watching? He hit a bunch of TOUGH shots in the first half.

Agreed

You are beyond full of sh*t.

Disagreed.

[fatlever]

voting closed

gold - jackson
silver - augustin
bronze - wallace