Who is the Worst Starter at Every Position?

[ommmmmm7wytj]

You can have a role player in the starting five. Bogans is usefull. What is the worst it's established players scoring with bad %, monopolizing the ball and killing the chemistry (or just not fit to their position).

PG : westbroke (can't shot, can't lead a team, dumb) / Harris (can't lead) / Ellis (runshotrunshotrunshot)
SG : Crarter (off balance) Hamilton (not the same player he was) / Salmons (salmons)
SF : Idiodala (can't shot) / Wallace (can't shot)/ Ariza
PF : Green (not a PF) / Landry / Jamison
C : Okafor / Bargnana /

Westbrook? Iggy? Green? Harris WTF?

It's a little digression. It's not fair not put role player on this list.

[Battery]

man the raptor trolls never give up on calderon.....the raptors traded their starting point and the new guy that comes in starts over calderon.....come man thats just awful

Are you guys IDIOTS??????? Bayless started that 1 game vs you guys because Calderon was injured. You people need to know facts before you post and make yourself look stupid.

[captaincrunk]

I can't stop laughing that you guys are denying that Calderon would be the best PG on your team....

Calderon wouldn't be the best PG on my intramural team...

[countryboi]

man the raptor trolls never give up on calderon.....the raptors traded their starting point and the new guy that comes in starts over calderon.....come man thats just awful

Are you guys IDIOTS??????? Bayless started that 1 game vs you guys because Calderon was injured. You people need to know facts before you post and make yourself look stupid.

go play in traffic....your team sucks...we dont want calderon and your not welcome here

[fatlever]

man the raptor trolls never give up on calderon.....the raptors traded their starting point and the new guy that comes in starts over calderon.....come man thats just awful

Are you guys IDIOTS??????? Bayless started that 1 game vs you guys because Calderon was injured. You people need to know facts before you post and make yourself look stupid.

consider this your first and last warning. if you cant post in this thread w/out name-calling or trolling i would advise you to post elsewhere.

[fatlever]

guys, keep it civil. thanks.

[SWedd523]

No, we will NOT rekindle the Caleron for Diaw trade tdot. I'm sorry. I guess you're on the Anger stage of acceptance?

[Bucksfans1and2]

Which players from all over the league are the worst starters at their respective positions?

PG: Carlos Arroyo (runners up: Derek Fisher, Jerryd Bayless)
SG: Keith Bogans (runners up: DeShawn Stevenson, Xavier Henry)
SF: Donte Green (runners up: Ryan Gomes, Anthony Parker)
PF: Shelden Williams (runners up: Josh McRoberts, Ersan Ilyasova)
C: Zydrunas Ilgauskas (runners up: Nazr Mohammed, Nenad Kristic)






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What did Ersan do to make this list?

[SWedd523]

Which players from all over the league are the worst starters at their respective positions?

PG: Carlos Arroyo (runners up: Derek Fisher, Jerryd Bayless)
SG: Keith Bogans (runners up: DeShawn Stevenson, Xavier Henry)
SF: Donte Green (runners up: Ryan Gomes, Anthony Parker)
PF: Shelden Williams (runners up: Josh McRoberts, Ersan Ilyasova)
C: Zydrunas Ilgauskas (runners up: Nazr Mohammed, Nenad Kristic)






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What did Ersan do to make this list?

Don't get me wrong, I've liked Ersan ever since I saw him wear those goofy white socks. It's just that I looked down ESPN's list of starters and saw that the only sub par starting PFs are the three above, and Greg Monroe/Kris Humphries. Humphries is playing pretty good ball this year and I didn't put Monroe just because I figured Charlie V got the majority of the starter minutes for DET. Ersan just fell into the spot.


If it's any consolation, the gap between him and the other two on the list is pretty wide

[toddlincoln]

This is a serious reply:

PG: Baron Davis (His roland rating is like -9, seriously, and he fails the eye test -- doesn't seem to care, makes terrible, terrible turnovers)
SG: Keith Bogans (NO CONTEST)
SF: Quinton Ross (LOL, seriously, I couldn't believe he was starting for the Nets either)
PF: Shelden Williams
C: Andrea Bargnani (Seriously the worst starting center in the league -- even worse than dinosaurs like Ben Wallace and perpetually injured like Kaman; if he doesn't count, probably Robin Lopez)


I wanted to point out McRoberts plays very well for the Pacers in their set up, so I wouldn't write him off as "worst starter", especially with dudes like Jeff Green and Carl Landry running around. Sure, Landry and Green can score but Green plays out of position there and is a liability and Landry can't defend anyone. And Ilyasova is a major upgrade over Drew Gooden.

Williams really has no peer, though, in his terrible-ness.

[Tommy Udo 6]

Which players from all over the league are the worst starters at their respective positions?

PG: Carlos Arroyo (runners up: Derek Fisher, Jerryd Bayless)
SG: Keith Bogans (runners up: DeShawn Stevenson, Xavier Henry)
SF: Donte Green (runners up: Ryan Gomes, Anthony Parker)
PF: Shelden Williams (runners up: Josh McRoberts, Ersan Ilyasova)
C: Zydrunas Ilgauskas (runners up: Nazr Mohammed, Nenad Kristic)

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The Bulls trashed the 76ers by almost 50 points - but their starting SG Bogans could not even manage one point in that game.

In all fairness, the Bulls coach has better players in Brewer & Korver - but if either of them start, the Bulls have no scorer coming off the bench.

[michaelc204]

Whats wrong with Nazr?

[LargeBabyDavis]

This is a serious reply:

PG: Baron Davis (His roland rating is like -9, seriously, and he fails the eye test -- doesn't seem to care, makes terrible, terrible turnovers)
SG: Keith Bogans (NO CONTEST)
SF: Quinton Ross (LOL, seriously, I couldn't believe he was starting for the Nets either)
PF: Shelden Williams
C: Andrea Bargnani (Seriously the worst starting center in the league -- even worse than dinosaurs like Ben Wallace and perpetually injured like Kaman; if he doesn't count, probably Robin Lopez)


I wanted to point out McRoberts plays very well for the Pacers in their set up, so I wouldn't write him off as "worst starter", especially with dudes like Jeff Green and Carl Landry running around. Sure, Landry and Green can score but Green plays out of position there and is a liability and Landry can't defend anyone. And Ilyasova is a major upgrade over Drew Gooden.

Williams really has no peer, though, in his terrible-ness.

Not sure if serious

[Bucksfans1and2]

Which players from all over the league are the worst starters at their respective positions?

PG: Carlos Arroyo (runners up: Derek Fisher, Jerryd Bayless)
SG: Keith Bogans (runners up: DeShawn Stevenson, Xavier Henry)
SF: Donte Green (runners up: Ryan Gomes, Anthony Parker)
PF: Shelden Williams (runners up: Josh McRoberts, Ersan Ilyasova)
C: Zydrunas Ilgauskas (runners up: Nazr Mohammed, Nenad Kristic)






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What did Ersan do to make this list?

Don't get me wrong, I've liked Ersan ever since I saw him wear those goofy white socks. It's just that I looked down ESPN's list of starters and saw that the only sub par starting PFs are the three above, and Greg Monroe/Kris Humphries. Humphries is playing pretty good ball this year and I didn't put Monroe just because I figured Charlie V got the majority of the starter minutes for DET. Ersan just fell into the spot.


If it's any consolation, the gap between him and the other two on the list is pretty wide

Reggie Evans, Whoever the Suns are starting at PF, Tiago Splitter, I would all say are worse than Ersan.

For some dumb reason we also start Drew Gooden at PF. (searches for vomit emoticon)

[SWedd523]

I think in another couple of years, Ersan won't be anywhere near that list, so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

[BrooklynBulls]

Glad Keith Bogans is getting all the praise he deserves.

[captaincrunk]

Whats wrong with Nazr?

He's just not very good. You don't have to be a bad player to be bad for a starting player.

[michaelc204]

I guess I was fooled by his per 36 numbers

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... mna01.html