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Re: GT Fri Dec 30th: Charlotte Vs Orlando 7:00pm 

Post#201 » by Diop » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:32 am

BigSlam wrote:They shot better from 3 than we did from the field.

We left them SO open. The game was over, would have liked to try some single coverage on Dwight.
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Re: GT Fri Dec 30th: Charlotte Vs Orlando 7:00pm 

Post#202 » by GQCoolest » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:41 am

Marvel wrote:**** that, **** this. Dwight allowed to throw his elbows at players faces and he gets called for flinging his **** arms like someone shot him....**** that. Excuse the language, but that foul on Biyombo where Dwight clearly wrapped HIS arms round Smack, flings his arms out and he goes to the FT line was an atrosity.

He can get away with throwinghis elbows yet when he gets touched he goes to the FT line?!?!?!?! WTF is that.


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Re: GT Fri Dec 30th: Charlotte Vs Orlando 7:00pm 

Post#203 » by Bassman » Sat Dec 31, 2011 3:18 am

I hope Silas was just wanting the guys to build some chemistry out there versus bringing in the rooks...but I suspect he just lost track of time.

Frankly there were some moments for a number of players, but we didn;t string anything together well. For the benefits Diaw has brought us in the first 2 games...his inability to play the 5 against a quality player really showed tonight. Diop played hard against Howard, but nobody can stop a good player who has a halo on their head ( :angel: ...no fouls for you innocent Dwight).

Hendo had an off game, Kemba was average, Bis was a foul machine, Diaw was just so-so, and Mags was good but not great. At least it was entertaining for 3 quarters.
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Re: GT Fri Dec 30th: Charlotte Vs Orlando 7:00pm 

Post#204 » by fatlever » Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:45 am

well that kinda sucked!

refs certainly werent helping us, especially in that late 3rd early 4th. some of those calls were just crazy.

you'd think after playing howard 4 times a year for the past 7 years, plus 4 times in the playoffs that we would have a clue of how to defend howard and the magic's 3pt shooters. sadly, we have learned nothing.

starting diaw on howard was a mistake. silas might need to be a little more flexible with his starting lineups when we face the really good centers in the league. diop and biz did good on him though. they at least slowed him down.

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Re: GT Fri Dec 30th: Charlotte Vs Orlando 7:00pm 

Post#205 » by Battery » Sat Dec 31, 2011 5:34 am

I guess it's safe to say the bloom is off the rose. :lol:


I'm sitting there really perplexed as to why Coach Roses had Kemba on the bench in the third quarter down like 15. It was clear we were lacking energy all night and yet he waits until 2 minutes left in the third to bring Kemba in? Huh? Now it could be a strategy to try and jack DJ's trade value up so they want to play him as much as possible, or maybe they just want Kemba to watch and learn. Not sure, so I won't totally kill Mr.Rose but it didn't seem like he was coaching to win this game. Not that I care because I want us to lose but if we are going to lose I need to see more Kemba and less DJ.

Meh I guess I just have to bite the bullet until we dump DJ so it looks like we will see a lot of him until the trade deadline. I do like how he is using Biz. Give him some time but not too much, just enough for him to do something well and leave on a positive note. He's going to be good someday, so be patient and let him develop naturally. But my goodness he is really bad on offense. Yikes! And Dwight game him his welcome to the NBA moment tonight with that forearm shiver to the chops. Ouch. Big fella, this ain't Europe. :noway:
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Re: GT Fri Dec 30th: Charlotte Vs Orlando 7:00pm 

Post#206 » by Eoghan » Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:13 am

GQCoolest wrote:
Marvel wrote:**** that, **** this. Dwight allowed to throw his elbows at players faces and he gets called for flinging his **** arms like someone shot him....**** that. Excuse the language, but that foul on Biyombo where Dwight clearly wrapped HIS arms round Smack, flings his arms out and he goes to the FT line was an atrosity.

He can get away with throwinghis elbows yet when he gets touched he goes to the FT line?!?!?!?! WTF is that.


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Well, we couldn't shoot worth a damn this game. Refs didn't help us out much but that's to be expected. What I did like from this game was that nobody was really backing down despite the score, like Kemba hounding Larry Hughes on D. This was my first look at BB in a Bobcats uni, I really think he'll come along. He plays much more within himself than I thought he would and not hacking away and making bad Bball decisions on offense.
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Re: GT Fri Dec 30th: Charlotte Vs Orlando 7:00pm 

Post#207 » by Jaruff » Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:41 am

Marvel wrote:Does the ball ever leave Mullens hands when he receives it? lol


He's making up for lost time.

Battery wrote:I'm sitting there really perplexed as to why Coach Roses had Kemba on the bench in the third quarter down like 15. It was clear we were lacking energy all night and yet he waits until 2 minutes left in the third to bring Kemba in? Huh? Now it could be a strategy to try and jack DJ's trade value up so they want to play him as much as possible, or maybe they just want Kemba to watch and learn. Not sure, so I won't totally kill Mr.Rose but it didn't seem like he was coaching to win this game. Not that I care because I want us to lose but if we are going to lose I need to see more Kemba and less DJ.


Honestly, I thought Kemba played like sh*t tonight and didn't warrant the playing time over DJ. Hell, I would have rather watched Corey Higgins go out and jack a few shots up. Kemba pulled a chuckfest tonight and while you know I love chuckers, they're only good if they make buckets. Kemba wasn't making buckets tonight.

Battery wrote:Meh I guess I just have to bite the bullet until we dump DJ so it looks like we will see a lot of him until the trade deadline. I do like how he is using Biz. Give him some time but not too much, just enough for him to do something well and leave on a positive note. He's going to be good someday, so be patient and let him develop naturally. But my goodness he is really bad on offense. Yikes! And Dwight game him his welcome to the NBA moment tonight with that forearm shiver to the chops. Ouch. Big fella, this ain't Europe. :noway:


I don't think any of us realistically expected Biz to come in and do anything on offense. He might manage double figures one day like Ben Wallace did a few times but he's a defensive stalwart. He's good for a few dunks.


Mullens and White played well enough to warrant more PT. Biz has shown good things but the foul problems will hinder him for a while. DJ is trying his best to prove a case that he deserves to start.
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Re: GT Fri Dec 30th: Charlotte Vs Orlando 7:00pm 

Post#208 » by freakon0mics » Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:56 am

Its funny how people keep saying that Maggette will score 20 points even if his team loses and that certainly was the case tonight. He scored 20 points while also shooting 3-4 in three point land and we happen to lose by 21 points.

Overall a bad game from us. What do you expect? We're young, inexperienced, and not very talented. I'm just glad we won at least one game so far this year and cut it close with probably this year's eastern conference champions. This shows that, even though we are tanking, we are at least watchable.
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Re: GT Fri Dec 30th: Charlotte Vs Orlando 7:00pm 

Post#209 » by BigSlam » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:05 pm

Battery wrote:II'm sitting there really perplexed as to why Coach Roses had Kemba on the bench in the third quarter down like 15.

I can only think that it was because that Kemba really sucked last night. He is a rookie after all and still needs to be protected from himself a little.

I do like how he is using Biz. Give him some time but not too much, just enough for him to do something well and leave on a positive note.

Agreed - but I think it might not be too long before he is demanding more PT via his effort, energy and game play. Like Kemba though, he has to be protected from himself a little.

He's going to be good someday, so be patient and let him develop naturally. But my goodness he is really bad on offense. Yikes!

We don't really know yet. He found great, open position a lot last night but his team mates just weren't looking for him. Seriously, he needs to play with Boris with Boris giving him the Kwame treatment from the high post.
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Re: GT Fri Dec 30th: Charlotte Vs Orlando 7:00pm 

Post#210 » by BigSlam » Sat Dec 31, 2011 2:07 pm

freakon0mics wrote:Its funny how people keep saying that Maggette will score 20 points even if his team loses and that certainly was the case tonight. He scored 20 points while also shooting 3-4 in three point land and we happen to lose by 21 points.

The other 4 starters shot a combined 15 from 43. That's no fault of Mags.
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Re: GT Fri Dec 30th: Charlotte Vs Orlando 7:00pm 

Post#211 » by Snidely FC » Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:26 pm

fatlever wrote:starting diaw on howard was a mistake.

Yes - playing Howard led to quick fouls and took Diaw out of the game from the start which hurt our offense big time. Howard also kept DJA from being effective, blocking anything DJ brought inside. We don't have a single (reliable) 3 pt shooter on the team - painfully apparent against ORL - for DJ to kick out to. Hendo was short on everything. He got noticeably frustrated in the 2nd half. Kemba also short on everything. I thought Bis showed huge potential. He doesn't shy from contact, fought hard against Dwight, clearly is a fighter, looks like a fast learner, and was left on the blocks looking at teammates who didn't pass to him. Not saying he's great now but shows uberupside imo.

Like others, was confused by the rotation esp at game end. At least why not throw Higgins out there down 20 at the end? Carroll was terrible. We need to see if Higgins can play until Reggie comes back or if he's just on diaper duty for his Daddy.
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Post#212 » by Snidely FC » Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:29 pm

p.s. UPS was horrible. Dante already putting up 9 & 5 on 50% shooting for MEM. I know lots didn't like Dante, but this clearly wasn't a smart trade off.
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Re: GT Fri Dec 30th: Charlotte Vs Orlando 7:00pm 

Post#213 » by Jaruff » Sat Dec 31, 2011 4:54 pm

Snidely FC wrote:p.s. UPS was horrible. Dante already putting up 9 & 5 on 50% shooting for MEM. I know lots didn't like Dante, but this clearly wasn't a smart trade off.


I know Cho traded Dante here and I know he let Dante walk. There's a reason for that.
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Re: GT Fri Dec 30th: Charlotte Vs Orlando 7:00pm 

Post#214 » by fatlever » Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:03 pm

Snidely FC wrote:p.s. UPS was horrible. Dante already putting up 9 & 5 on 50% shooting for MEM. I know lots didn't like Dante, but this clearly wasn't a smart trade off.


ups still doesnt do anything for me. i like him, i root for him, but i dont really think he is good enough to play. he is 12th man material, not 8th man. dante was clearly a better player. something about him though most have not clicked with cho. 2/4 mil is very fair.

carroll was supposed to come out of the offseason on fire. we heard good things about him having his jumper back. so far, its has not shown.
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Re: GT Fri Dec 30th: Charlotte Vs Orlando 7:00pm 

Post#215 » by doc.end » Sat Dec 31, 2011 6:55 pm

Jaruff wrote:
Snidely FC wrote:p.s. UPS was horrible. Dante already putting up 9 & 5 on 50% shooting for MEM. I know lots didn't like Dante, but this clearly wasn't a smart trade off.


I know Cho traded Dante here and I know he let Dante walk. There's a reason for that.

Higgins let Dante walk because he needed an open roster spot. Hint: notice who the newest Bobcat is. This makes too much sense to not have any legs.
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Re: GT Fri Dec 30th: Charlotte Vs Orlando 7:00pm 

Post#216 » by Battery » Sat Dec 31, 2011 7:05 pm

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Battery wrote:II'm sitting there really perplexed as to why Coach Roses had Kemba on the bench in the third quarter down like 15.

I can only think that it was because that Kemba really sucked last night. He is a rookie after all and still needs to be protected from himself a little.




No doubt he had a stinker, but he sits the entire first quarter getting cold. This man is a bundle of energy and needs to be on the court. In the second half we came out again with no energy and I wanted to see Kemba play with the starting unit, not Matt Crapoll and the sh*tty UPS. Actually UPS should be re-named to USPS. Inefficient.


Also WTF was DJ doing out there bunny hopping all over the court?? All sizzle and no steak with him last night. And he passed up many wide open shots.


But this gets back to me thinking that DJ is being showcased and that's why he's playing the entire first quarter. Either that, or Silas is just a sh*tty coach who has no clue when to substitute players in and out of the game. Hopefully it's the first option.

Maggette sucks. Horrible on defense and he has terrible hands, can't catch a freaking pass. Not a leader. Maybe some team will take him and DJ in a package deal. :pray:
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Re: GT Fri Dec 30th: Charlotte Vs Orlando 7:00pm 

Post#217 » by JMAC3 » Sat Dec 31, 2011 8:13 pm

UPS actually played pretty well last night I thought. He provided some Offensive rebounds, hit a midrange jumper, played decent D, and got to the line. He just needs for people to get him the ball in the right spots, but we are not doing that well with him so far.

Plus once Reggie gets back neither UPS or Dante would of gotten a ton of minutes. So why not take the cheaper option with more upside and does not smoke weed and wants to be here.
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Re: GT Fri Dec 30th: Charlotte Vs Orlando 7:00pm 

Post#218 » by bobcats3wallace » Sat Dec 31, 2011 11:27 pm

Could not disagree with you more on Maggette there battery. Maggette has been very strong on defense this far, especially on James. He has also been probably the best leader this franchise has ever seen by what he is doing on and off the court. He's exactly the type of vet personality this team needs. Not sure how you could had watched what happened all preseason and in the first three games and come out of as Maggette is bad on defense and a bad leader?
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Re: GT Fri Dec 30th: Charlotte Vs Orlando 7:00pm 

Post#219 » by Battery » Sun Jan 1, 2012 9:50 pm

bobcats3wallace wrote:Could not disagree with you more on Maggette there battery. Maggette has been very strong on defense this far, especially on James. He has also been probably the best leader this franchise has ever seen by what he is doing on and off the court. He's exactly the type of vet personality this team needs. Not sure how you could had watched what happened all preseason and in the first three games and come out of as Maggette is bad on defense and a bad leader?



Hell no, Lebron lit him up and Maggette's other two matchup's weren't that difficult. And what leadership? I'm not seeing any? Where is this leadership? He seems very passive to me on the court. Also he fumbles lots of passes. What's with his poor hands? Big whoop so he hit a bunch of meaningless wide open threes against Orlando. Yay. Can't wait til he leaves.
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Re: GT Fri Dec 30th: Charlotte Vs Orlando 7:00pm 

Post#220 » by e4Nf6 » Sun Jan 1, 2012 10:14 pm

Maggette's defense on James was the type where he did decently and Lebron Scored a bunch anyway. Nothing to get excited about. Hendo on the other hand did great on Wade, with one notable exception... :cry:
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