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GT April 20th Charlotte Vs Memphis 7:00pm

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Re: GT April 20th Charlotte Vs Memphis 7:00pm 

Post#101 » by fatlever » Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:01 am

BigSlam wrote:Kemba is like a fairly ordinary looking chick who has an outstanding personality.


sounds like felton
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Re: GT April 20th Charlotte Vs Memphis 7:00pm 

Post#102 » by DY_nasty » Sat Apr 21, 2012 5:39 am

fatlever wrote:not fair to say kemba cost us the game. he had a good 3rd quarter that helped us build that lead. everyone other than hendo has some blame tonight.

that being said, kemba had some shocking turnovers all game, especially in the 4th. and the pick and roll defense with him and mully in the 4th was pathetic.

another night where i came away impressed with kemba's heart and unimpressed with his playmaking.

outside of that 3rd quarter he was consistently terrible

hell, that 11-0 run against us in the 1st quarter was entirely on him.

i love that people have hope for the future with him because of his great smile or whatever it is these days, but right now - he is terrible. its like i'm watching adam morrison all over again but worse.
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Re: GT April 20th Charlotte Vs Memphis 7:00pm 

Post#103 » by Stun704 » Sat Apr 21, 2012 6:14 am

DY_nasty wrote:
Kemba2Hendo wrote:
DY_nasty wrote:Kemba...

This guy...


Yep, what a courageous player, to sprain his ankle and come back and play as well as he did, def a star for us once he fixes his shot mechanics in the offseason.

Kemba cost us the game. A game where for the first time in a LONG time everyone played well.

But he's immune to criticism. I forgot.

would have been nice if we had a capable backup or starter to play infront of him.. oh wait, DJ was out with a sprained mangina and Corey sucks monkey balls, Kemba is a major reason we were competitive, he shouldn't be blamed for this lost. at-least hes not like DJ who is out indefinately for what reason exactly?
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Re: GT April 20th Charlotte Vs Memphis 7:00pm 

Post#104 » by DY_nasty » Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:55 am

Stun704 wrote:would have been nice if we had a capable backup or starter to play infront of him.. oh wait, DJ was out with a sprained mangina and Corey sucks monkey balls, Kemba is a major reason we were competitive, he shouldn't be blamed for this lost. at-least hes not like DJ who is out indefinately for what reason exactly?

I can't be mad at DJ for checking out.

But I can be mad at 7 turnovers on 30% shooting. Derrick Brown's defense on Rudy, Mullens' rare effort, Henderson's scoring and aggression, Biyombo's consistent defense were why we competitive. Saying that Kemba was "a major reason" just takes away from all the good that they did. He may be good down the road, but right, he is terrible. He isn't even fun to watch.
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Re: GT April 20th Charlotte Vs Memphis 7:00pm 

Post#105 » by Stun704 » Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:26 am

DY_nasty wrote:
Stun704 wrote:would have been nice if we had a capable backup or starter to play infront of him.. oh wait, DJ was out with a sprained mangina and Corey sucks monkey balls, Kemba is a major reason we were competitive, he shouldn't be blamed for this lost. at-least hes not like DJ who is out indefinately for what reason exactly?

I can't be mad at DJ for checking out.

But I can be mad at 7 turnovers on 30% shooting. Derrick Brown's defense on Rudy, Mullens' rare effort, Henderson's scoring and aggression, Biyombo's consistent defense were why we competitive. Saying that Kemba was "a major reason" just takes away from all the good that they did. He may be good down the road, but right, he is terrible. He isn't even fun to watch.

Atleast Kemba tries, seriously why is DJ missing games? hes a **** bitch, spare me the bias
Kemba was +1
Hendo +/- 0
Biz +/- 0
Mully -2

The bench was all <-5 with notably the "back up" pg -6

So like I said blame someone other then Kemba, I don't even think you watched the game, boxscore watching FTL. despite all of the things he did "bad" as you point out, he still managed to have a positive +/- score, which you could conclude he helped the team more then he hurt it
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Re: GT April 20th Charlotte Vs Memphis 7:00pm 

Post#106 » by DY_nasty » Sat Apr 21, 2012 10:32 am

Stun704 wrote:
DY_nasty wrote:
Stun704 wrote:would have been nice if we had a capable backup or starter to play infront of him.. oh wait, DJ was out with a sprained mangina and Corey sucks monkey balls, Kemba is a major reason we were competitive, he shouldn't be blamed for this lost. at-least hes not like DJ who is out indefinately for what reason exactly?

I can't be mad at DJ for checking out.

But I can be mad at 7 turnovers on 30% shooting. Derrick Brown's defense on Rudy, Mullens' rare effort, Henderson's scoring and aggression, Biyombo's consistent defense were why we competitive. Saying that Kemba was "a major reason" just takes away from all the good that they did. He may be good down the road, but right, he is terrible. He isn't even fun to watch.

Atleast Kemba tries, seriously why is DJ missing games? hes a **** bitch, spare me the bias
Kemba was +1
Hendo +/- 0
Biz +/- 0
Mully -2

The bench was all <-5 with notably the "back up" pg -6

So like I said blame someone other then Kemba, I don't even think you watched the game, boxscore watching FTL. despite all of the things he did "bad" as you point out, he still managed to have a positive +/- score, which you could conclude he helped the team more then he hurt it
How do you talk about "watch the game!" then bring up one of the most useless stats ever in +/-?

At least Kemba tries! lmao
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Re: GT April 20th Charlotte Vs Memphis 7:00pm 

Post#107 » by hotrod » Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:23 pm

BigSlam wrote:Kemba is like a fairly ordinary looking chick who has an outstanding personality.



I hear all of the Kemba criticism and understand it. He does have a ways to as a pg. For what it's worth, the guy has a lot of heart and a great work ethic. I go to all the home games and have gotten to know and speak with many players and coaches in the organization. They all praise Kemba for his work ethic and willingness to learn. I see Kemba growing as a leader. I am gonna give him a pass this year due to the lack of actual practice time they get with the shortened schedule. Another thing is the lack of talent surrounding him. This guy has no shooters to help open up driving lanes for him. The lane is packed full of defenders. This takes away his biggest advantage he has in his game, his ability to get to the rim. Our bigs are young and don't know how to use the Pick and roll correctly. Especially Byron, he was lost on a couple of those that lead to Kemba turnovers.

Anyway we should see a much improved Kemba next year. No more excuses.
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Re: GT April 20th Charlotte Vs Memphis 7:00pm 

Post#108 » by BigSlam » Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:17 pm

hotrod wrote:I hear all of the Kemba criticism and understand it. He does have a ways to as a pg. For what it's worth, the guy has a lot of heart and a great work ethic.

Oh I agree hotrod. I dont think anyone could say that Kemba doesnt present himself very, very well. Hes really likebale and I dont think anyone dislikes him. The concern is about his decision making, his ability to run the point and that busted J of his.

As for him getting to the rim - for me at least he is the best PG we have ever had at driving and finishing, no doubt. I used to cringe anytime Felton drove because he was useless getting to the rack and DJA isnt much better. Kemba has it all over those two already when it comes to getting to the rim and at least knowing how to finish.

Just got to hope he uses that skill a lot more going forward.
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Re: GT April 20th Charlotte Vs Memphis 7:00pm 

Post#109 » by BigSlam » Sat Apr 21, 2012 1:26 pm

DY_nasty wrote: right, he is terrible. He isn't even fun to watch.

this is so true. i figured Kemba would shoot a crap percentage - because he always has - and I figured his point guard skills would be suspect - because hes not a true point guard - but I at least expected him to be exciting and so far he`s really not. He`s more `oh no` when he has the ball than anything else.
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Re: GT April 20th Charlotte Vs Memphis 7:00pm 

Post#110 » by Stun704 » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:14 pm

DY_nasty wrote:At least Kemba tries! lmao

Thanks for conceding defeat, you have nothing to counter my argument but deflecting and laughing it off, I brought up +/- because you obviously weren't watching the game and was box score watching, +/- is the best way to tell if someone lost you the game or not without actually watching the game, nice try. P.s DJ is a bitch
BigSlam wrote:this is so true. i figured Kemba would shoot a crap percentage - because he always has - and I figured his point guard skills would be suspect - because hes not a true point guard - but I at least expected him to be exciting and so far he`s really not. He`s more `oh no` when he has the ball than anything else.

Sigh could your anaylsis of him be more wrong? the only valid criticism of him is that he can't shoot at a efficent rate, everyone knows that, but has most definitely shown he can run a team, with a competent coach it will come out.. Now is it his fault the offense looks garbage? I would assume not

Ballwhore:Talk to DJ last night and he said no one on the team seems to consistenly remember the plays or sets except for Diaw. He's calling sets and guys are basically lost which leads to him dribbling then driving or chunking. (Hence no movement) Practice time is really needed.

1)Hendo is out there free lancing most of the time.
2)Kemba knows most of the sets but what does it help if the other guys don't
3)Biyombo is way more lost then it even appears but he tries hard
4)Every f#cking body legs are tired
5)Magette is the worst teammate ever hates playing with him he sits out of most practices when he was healthy with mystery ailments and his over all attitude is he is the savior of Charlotte (Thanks Silas for giving him the reigns to chunk at will)
6)Playing Tyrus (regardless of what Silas said about him working for his spot back) came from management.


this is from January but it still rings true, anyone at a brain could look at the other players and stop focusing on Kemba to see why the offense sucks, NOBODY RUNS PLAYS, they just stand around on the sides unless its to set screens to get UPS or Hendo free for a catch a shoot. Hendo is efficient because he stepped his ISO game up tremendously, Kemba can create his own shot he just can't nail it right now. after a off-season and training camp with a competent offensive coach it will help the team out tremendously, stop using kemba as a scape goat!

and to debunk the hes nothing bout a raymond felton argument, it took Ray 5 count em 5 SEASONS to get a better PER then what Kemba has right now SMH
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Re: GT April 20th Charlotte Vs Memphis 7:00pm 

Post#111 » by BigSlam » Sat Apr 21, 2012 2:35 pm

it also took Felton 3 years to crack 40% from the floor. Wonder how long it will take Kemba.
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Re: GT April 20th Charlotte Vs Memphis 7:00pm 

Post#112 » by ohara » Sat Apr 21, 2012 3:16 pm

It is amazing what 1 player can do for a team. If we get Davis, and I hope to God we do, watch how it impacts Kemba, Biz, Mullens and Hendo. These young guys are good. But they can really take off if there is a star player here to impact the entire team. Everything will go up for these guys. Points, rebounds, assists, shooting %, etc...
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Re: GT April 20th Charlotte Vs Memphis 7:00pm 

Post#113 » by therebirth » Sun Apr 22, 2012 2:57 am

And that is what a star player does. It makes the rest of the role players feel more comfortable. Putting a star player on this team will make such a big difference for these player.
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