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Re: GT: Bobcats @ Pelicans Sat Nov 2 8PM EST 

Post#401 » by MasterIchiro » Mon Nov 4, 2013 12:11 am

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Sik Infant wrote:The obvious point is that if it comes down to trading either Hendo or MKG to solve our spacing issues then it is Hendo who has to go 100/100 times.


It's a choice? I doubt it is. The player you bring in would have to change the dynamics of the spacing issue. I don't see how Henderson brings that return. In fact, I don't see Henderson as anything more than filler.


Of course Cho can decide which players he wants to trade!

What is the point of this, of course you trade the guy who is not the #2 pick and 7th youngest player in the league.

We could most likely trade Henderson for Korver on December the 15th if we wanted to, that would solve our spacing issues to some degree.

Why you hate MKG so much?

It's obvious that the only answer you see to curing this teams ills is to trade him for next to nothing.


I don't hate MKG. I want him traded with a pick for a long term piece. Korver is such as waste of time. We're plugging holes now and not building a long-term sustainable team? When did that happen?
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Re: GT: Bobcats @ Pelicans Sat Nov 2 8PM EST 

Post#402 » by Elden Payton » Mon Nov 4, 2013 12:16 am

So you identify holes as a reason to trade MKG but if we trade Hendo to plug them we're not building long term?

We have 20m in cap space and 3 potential draft picks coming up in a loaded draft..

We're building longterm which is why we're not trading MKG for crap like Lamb etc.
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Re: GT: Bobcats @ Pelicans Sat Nov 2 8PM EST 

Post#403 » by JDR720 » Mon Nov 4, 2013 12:33 am

hmm trade Hendo sounds like a great plan, i'll take a 2nd round pick for him from 2015 draft
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Re: GT: Bobcats @ Pelicans Sat Nov 2 8PM EST 

Post#404 » by JDR720 » Mon Nov 4, 2013 12:40 am

Reasons to trade

MKG-Bad jumper

Gerald-very average low potential SG that needs the ball to do anything useful besides shooting midrange shots coming of screens, doesn't try all the time

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Reasons to not trade

MKG-High Potential, can guard 4 positons,very athletic, good rebounder and gives 100% all the time great motor

Gerald-Good midrange shot,good athlete, can be good defender if he tries (key word tries)

so Gerald is the one that needs to be traded
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Re: GT: Bobcats @ Pelicans Sat Nov 2 8PM EST 

Post#405 » by JDR720 » Mon Nov 4, 2013 12:42 am

Korver would fix spacing problems, probably 3rd best 3pt shooter in NBA
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Re: GT: Bobcats @ Pelicans Sat Nov 2 8PM EST 

Post#406 » by Elden Payton » Mon Nov 4, 2013 12:48 am

JDR720 wrote:Korver would fix spacing problems, probably 3rd best 3pt shooter in NBA


That's what I reckon!

Would be an interesting trade and would get us out of one year of Hendo's contract with Korver being on a 2 year deal.
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Re: GT: Bobcats @ Pelicans Sat Nov 2 8PM EST 

Post#407 » by amcoolio » Mon Nov 4, 2013 1:15 am

Wish we would start JT next game. I'll keep saying it until it happens
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Re: GT: Bobcats @ Pelicans Sat Nov 2 8PM EST 

Post#408 » by ball teacher » Mon Nov 4, 2013 2:35 am

Guys, I dont get the spacing issue discussion. The offense really doesnt include much ball movement unless its the multiple screens we use trying to free Kemba for a open midrange shot. Henderson isn't a sharpshooter, but he can play, just play to his and the others stregnths the same way we play to Kemba's strengths. I dont see many cutting plays or post ups for MKG I see him camped out on the perimeter...a place everyone says isn't his strong point.

I don't think I've seen Biyombo or Zeller posted up 10 times in these games yet, and I'm sure if someone was to check the numbers, the vast majority of our shots come from our distributors, if they can put up so many shots it cant be a spacing issue especially if we aren't looking to feed anybody inside anyway.
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Re: GT: Bobcats @ Pelicans Sat Nov 2 8PM EST 

Post#409 » by Liver_Pooty » Mon Nov 4, 2013 2:52 am

ball teacher wrote:Guys, I dont get the spacing issue discussion. The offense really doesnt include much ball movement unless its the multiple screens we use trying to free Kemba for a open midrange shot. Henderson isn't a sharpshooter, but he can play, just play to his and the others stregnths the same way we play to Kemba's strengths. I dont see many cutting plays or post ups for MKG I see him camped out on the perimeter...a place everyone says isn't his strong point.

I don't think I've seen Biyombo or Zeller posted up 10 times in these games yet, and I'm sure if someone was to check the numbers, the vast majority of our shots come from our distributors, if they can put up so many shots it cant be a spacing issue especially if we aren't looking to feed anybody inside anyway.


I think things will change immensely once Jefferson is 100% and implemented into the grand scheme of things. He will command a double, sometimes a slight triple team. If that doesn't cure spacing than nothing will. It all comes down to whether our guys can hit open shots off of the attention he gets in the post.
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Re: GT: Bobcats @ Pelicans Sat Nov 2 8PM EST 

Post#410 » by Eoghan » Mon Nov 4, 2013 4:36 am

All of our guys have the same strengths, i.e. everyone looks to score in the midrange. Hendo is anemic beyond 18 feet, MKG is MKG and you don't want Kemba becoming a high volume 3pt scorer b/c he's probably not going to be efficient. Even if Jefferson comes back and commands doubles, it's not going to help that much b/c D's will just pack the paint and only have to worry about running Kemba/Taylor/Gordon off the perimeter.
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Re: GT: Bobcats @ Pelicans Sat Nov 2 8PM EST 

Post#411 » by catch20two » Mon Nov 4, 2013 4:48 am

BrotherDave wrote:All of our guys have the same strengths, i.e. everyone looks to score in the midrange. Hendo is anemic beyond 18 feet, MKG is MKG and you don't want Kemba becoming a high volume 3pt scorer b/c he's probably not going to be efficient. Even if Jefferson comes back and commands doubles, it's not going to help that much b/c D's will just pack the paint and only have to worry about running Kemba/Taylor/Gordon off the perimeter.


...and Kemba is a average 3-point shooter like you stated, Taylor is almost always hesitant to shoot the 3 the point where he pump fakes even if a defender is 5 feet away from him, and Gordon won't see the floor unless one of Hendo or Taylor are injured.
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Re: GT: Bobcats @ Pelicans Sat Nov 2 8PM EST 

Post#412 » by Liver_Pooty » Mon Nov 4, 2013 4:56 am

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BrotherDave wrote:All of our guys have the same strengths, i.e. everyone looks to score in the midrange. Hendo is anemic beyond 18 feet, MKG is MKG and you don't want Kemba becoming a high volume 3pt scorer b/c he's probably not going to be efficient. Even if Jefferson comes back and commands doubles, it's not going to help that much b/c D's will just pack the paint and only have to worry about running Kemba/Taylor/Gordon off the perimeter.


...and Kemba is a average 3-point shooter like you stated, Taylor is almost always hesitant to shoot the 3 the point where he pump fakes even if a defender is 5 feet away from him, and Gordon won't see the floor unless one of Hendo or Taylor are injured.


One of Taylors main problems is his release. It is as slow as molasses. By the time he catches and attempts to release it the defender is all over him.
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