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KembaWalker · Post #481 » by **KembaWalker** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 3:30 am

Feel the same way about the Knicks as I did at the end of the preseason game, they honestly aren't very good.

Liver_Pooty · Post #482 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 3:31 am

If MKG and Walker don't miss significant time due to injuries they could have put up huge fantasy numbers.

Post #483 » by **BigSlam** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 3:32 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Henderson yelling in the huddle. Nice leadership.

I think it is anyway.

Naaaaaaa - he saw Kobe do it once, thought it looked cool and wanted to give it a try.

Post #484 » by **BigSlam** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 3:34 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:If MKG and Walker don't miss significant time due to injuries they could have put up huge fantasy numbers.

Kemba still played 35 mins.

Liver_Pooty · Post #485 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 3:38 am

BigSlam wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:If MKG and Walker don't miss significant time due to injuries they could have put up huge fantasy numbers.

Kemba still played 35 mins.

Yeah just saw that. Doesn't seem like it though.

Post #486 » by **JDR720** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 3:41 am

on another note, have a game tomorrow, Al wont play

[tweet]https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/397931124745601024[/tweet]

Liver_Pooty · Post #487 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 3:45 am

JDR720 wrote:on another note, have a game tomorrow, Al wont play

[tweet]https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/397931124745601024[/tweet]

Hopefully he will be ready by Friday against the Knicks. If Chandler isn't healthy by Friday he would be able to absolutely abuse whomever the Knicks put out there to guard him.

Eoghan · Post #488 » by **Eoghan** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 3:51 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Adrien might eat into some or all of Biyombos minutes when Jefferson gets back. Hes played very well.

He needs to get more minutes for sure but we can't play him against teams with any height. Chandler going out really enabled us to bully them with our small ball line up.

Post #489 » by **JDR720** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 3:51 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
JDR720 wrote:on another note, have a game tomorrow, Al wont play

[tweet]https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell/status/397931124745601024[/tweet]

Hopefully he will be ready by Friday against the Knicks. If Chandler isn't healthy by Friday he would be able to absolutely abuse whomever the Knicks put out there to guard him.

thats when i think he'll be back, should beat the Knicks, and if they dont i'll just say they need chemistry

Liver_Pooty · Post #490 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 4:00 am

Im hoping McRoberts can get out of this slight funk hes in. I'd prefer to continue easing Zeller into things for a month or so before he gets put into the starting lineup.

Eoghan · Post #491 » by **Eoghan** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 4:12 am

I'm hoping the team quits passing Josh the ball with 3 seconds left on the clock, he's not Steph Curry.

HornetJail · Post #492 » by **HornetJail** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 4:52 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:If MKG and Walker don't miss significant time due to injuries they could have put up huge fantasy numbers.

Kemba, yes. MKG, maybe.

I made Kemba a priority in multiple leagues this year.

Also worth noting Kemba's never missed a game. Which is amazing for a guy as small as he is and even more amazing how crazy fast he changes directions.

Liver_Pooty · Post #493 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 4:53 am

Biz Gilwalker wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:If MKG and Walker don't miss significant time due to injuries they could have put up huge fantasy numbers.

Kemba, yes. MKG, maybe.

I made Kemba a priority in multiple leagues this year.

Also worth noting Kemba's never missed a game. Which is amazing for a guy as small as he is and even more amazing how crazy fast he changes directions.

Knock on wood.

EwingSweatsALot · Post #494 » by **EwingSweatsALot** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 5:02 am

Good win tonight. Hard to be disappointed when you go into MSG and come out with a win.

1. A few things on the offense tonight. We used screens really nicely to get mismatches throughout the night, especially in the first half. For a team that doesn't shoot the ball very well, we ran a lot of off ball screens and down screens to try and free up shooters. It worked tonight though because we seemed to shoot well on catch and shoots. It was nice to see us knock those down and was really why we scored a lot in the 1st half.

2. On defense I didn't understand our strategy that much. For a team that does shoot well, but doesn't have many guys that can finish strong in the lane, I don't know why we sagged so much in the lane and went under screens. It left them with a lot of wide open perimeter shots. Our rotations on the slash and kicks and our closeouts on the threes were inconsistent tonight. You would have a stretch where we did really well then another stretch where it we just seemed uninterested in doing it.

3. Kemba is just a fun guy to watch play the game of basketball. His quickness and handles are what sets him a part from a lot of guys. he definitely used that a lot tonight against defenders who don't have anywhere near the athleticism he does. He was smart and picked his spots and recognized who was defending him all night and knew what to do. Really impressive. His defense wasn't that great, not that he is a defensive stud, but would like to see more from him on that end of the court. He struggled when he got back from the injury on his shots. Part of that might have been the shoulder, the other part was he was trying to go for the dagger too much instead of running the offense. He went ISO A LOT at the end of the game to take his own shot instead of running the offense. A lot of standing around by everyone just watching him.

4. MKG was oustanding on Melo tonight. I know Melo scored 30+, but not that many were when MKG was on him. He played him hard in the post, was strong, forced him to kick out and take contested shot after contested shot, and frustrated him all night. He had a few lapses where his athleticism and length help make up for it. for instance on his missed 3 pointer he stood there too long and Melo got behind the defense, but he got back fast enough to block the shot. I have noticed he tends to get stuck on down screens. He's not fighting through and getting around quick enough which is leading to lay ups. A good bit of that is great execution by the other team though. He rebounded the ball well, especially in traffic. That's what I always look for is how a guy rebounds in traffic, who cares if they get them with no one around. He had a nice euro step and cross over, showing some more ball handling moves which was nice. Hustling is never ever a bad thing, but sometimes it does get him into trouble. On his loose ball foul on MWP, he should have let that ball go.

5. Henderson played better tonight. We definitely tried to get him going early. He seemed more involved in the offense than he has been. He still takes too many contested fadeaways, but I guess that is him. He shot well on catch and shoots tonight. A lot better than when he went ISO. He just isn't athletic enough or a good enough shooter to try to take guys one on one. The ball didn't stop in his hands as much tonight, he had some good passes and that give and go with MKG was a beauty. He played better, but I think it can get better if he continues to get more involved with the offense.

6. Jeff Adrien is such a good guy coming off our bench. He only score 2 or so tonight, but he just rebounds and plays defense so well. Guy is all hustle and it just fun to watch. i typed this after the Cleveland game, and I am sure I will for the rest of the year.

7. Taylor played well in the first half. Seemed to disappear in the second. If we can get his first half offensively more consistently this team can go places. Was great to see him finally play that way. He shot well and got into the lane a few times that resulted in a lay in or getting fouled. He struggled on defense tonight. Melo abused him. It really showed the gap between his D and MKG's. He wasn't strong enough when Melo took him into the post and he was a step late when Melo went off the dribble. He continually fouled him over and over after Melo got passed him. I know he is a better defender than that so hopefully that gets back on track.

8. Tolliver shooting well was a big boost for this team tonight. He isn't a cure to our outside shooting, but he helps.

9. A lot to be desired from our big men tonight. Bismack just seemed nonexistent, Zeller had a rookie game (good plays and bad plays), and McBob was just kind of out of it. When McBob made an impact on the game they were mostly positive, but just not enough of it.

10. Sessions, I feel like a broken record. We have no offense when he runs it. He had a good 1st quarter, but after that I had two positive notes I wrote down on him, and five negative ones. He played well for us last year, but with how Clifford is running this offense, Sessions just hurts us.

11. Going back to number 10, THANK YOU KEMBA ISN'T OUT LONG. I couldn't imagine a Sessions run offense for an extended period of time.

12. MKG, has the arms of one of those wacky inflatable arm guys you see outside of a car dealership. When he makes a play in the lane, his arms just flail around afterwards. It is great.

13. For a guy as athletic as Biyombo, he just doesn't explode in the paint and after offensive boards. I don't get it. Maybe it is a confidence thing, but a lot of his issues around the rim are because he just doesn't explode up once he gets the ball. A lot of times he is just stretching out to lay it in because he barely jumps.

14. We struggle with contact around the rim, foul or not. On fouls we tend to just throw the ball any way we please instead of trying to finish the play,and when we get hit we can't finish that well. I think that has to do with some younger guys still getting used to it all though.

15. Why does the ball ALWAYS find McRoberts behind the 3 point line with 2 seconds left on the shot clock? Anyone?

Good game for the Good guys tonight. Always take a road on the NBA. Knicks probably aren't that good, but we did play well and you can't take that away from the guys.

HornetJail · Post #495 » by **HornetJail** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 5:02 am

Seroiusly, Kemba is a mini Westbrook. I don't know how else to describe him. Super quick, really athletic, great scorers with average 3-point shots, great mid-range game, solid defenders, average-to-above-average passers, incredibly durable. Westbrook obviously has him beat in every facet of the game (except for shot blocking surprisingly), but the similarities are there.

*Didn't even know Kemba got hurt. I missed the second half. Did he look alright when he came back?

Liver_Pooty · Post #496 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 5:08 am

Biz Gilwalker wrote:Seroiusly, Kemba is a mini Westbrook. I don't know how else to describe him. Super quick, really athletic, great scorers with average 3-point shots, great mid-range game, solid defenders, average-to-above-average passers, incredibly durable. Westbrook obviously has him beat in every facet of the game (except for shot blocking surprisingly), but the similarities are there.

*Didn't even know Kemba got hurt. I missed the second half. Did he look alright when he came back?

His shot was shaky but he looked alright. Both him and MKG had to go to the locker room. Martin inadvertently elbowed MKG in the nose and busted it wide open.

TheKingofSting · Post #497 » by **TheKingofSting** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 11:21 am

Great win. I don't know what is more fun, winning or watching the Knicks fans implode?

MPM · Post #498 » by **MPM** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 12:59 pm

EwingSweatsALot wrote:12. MKG, has the arms of one of those wacky inflatable arm guys you see outside of a car dealership. When he makes a play in the lane, his arms just flail around afterwards. It is great.

Dead on. Watch the replay of his highlight dunk last night. Watch his arms after. They should definitely have him standing by a highway somewhere drawing in the suckers.

doc.end · Post #499 » by **doc.end** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 2:36 pm

Well Knicks fan are not homers and bandwaggoners, netitled etc. as much as one could expect. They have some knowledgeable people on their board there were even an argument whether Jeffery is a scrub or great player to have on contending team. Imagine something like this on few other boards, unthinkable.

mrknowitall215 · Post #500 » by **mrknowitall215** » Wed Nov 6, 2013 2:39 pm

Good win 'Cats. It would make my week if they can beat the Raptors tonight at home & turn around to beat the Knicks again on Friday. I really believe that they can the same way I believed they could win this game. It seems like the moment the wings step up to help Kemba & Sessions with the scoring load that the bigs (Biyombo & McRoberts) disappear. I'm hoping Zeller finds his confidence & stride soon so he can take McRoberts spot in the starting lineup to help that unit score

I was totally scared that Kemba might be out at least a month after hurting his shoulder running into Artest. Good thing he was able to return & hit the game deciding shot.