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Re: GT: Pelicans vs Hornets Wed Jan 7th 7PM EST 

Post#421 » by Eoghan » Thu Jan 8, 2015 6:39 am

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fatlever wrote:If Kemba is going to be a poor man's Iverson, he needs his very own Eric Snow. Hendo has the Aaron McKie role locked down and MKG sure does a rich man's George Lynch impression most nights. Maybe one day Biz can sniff Theo Ratliff's jock. Obviously Zeller needs to become Keith Van Horn. Al Jefferson as a washed up Derrick Coleman. We need to find a Tyrone Hill though.

Ugh, I hated those teams and I hated AI.


yeah, i hated those teams as well. they represented the two things i hated the most about that late 90s, early 00s brand of NBA - isocentric offenses with no movement and grind it out, ugly defensive games. but love it or hate it, these past 3 games w/out jefferson and with kemba basically carrying the offense as a 6'1" guard, those sixer teams are the best example of what we are playing like right now. kemba is doing the best iverson impression i've seen - he's just a thousand percent more likeable and a thousand percent less popular.

low 40s fg% on tons of volume, lightning fast, lots of mid-range jumpers after clearing space with devastating dribbles, ultra aggressive attacking the rim off the dribble, incredible energy, tons of heart, underrated defense and a team that basically just exists to play defense and set picks for the scoring guard to get free, then stand and watch. kemba is iverson these last few games.

I hated those teams specifically b/c AI had to be a SG, he couldn't be an actual PG and run a team. So they had to find big PGs like Snow and Ollie that were capable of sort of guarding SGs because AI was bad enough guarding PGs as it was. Those teams always seemed like they were handicapped from the start because of that and unless AI went unconscious with scoring and the rest of the team defended their asses off they were fighting an uphill battle.

It's sort of the same vein of my hate for Big Al. Such a positional bugaboo that it's just a headache trying to build a team around. Kemba ain't the scorer AI was but I think he's a better defender and much better PG than the Answer, and I'm still kind of lukewarm about Kemba as a "true" PG.
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Re: GT: Pelicans vs Hornets Wed Jan 7th 7PM EST 

Post#422 » by ball teacher » Thu Jan 8, 2015 9:45 am

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BrotherDave wrote:Ugh, I hated those teams and I hated AI.


yeah, i hated those teams as well. they represented the two things i hated the most about that late 90s, early 00s brand of NBA - isocentric offenses with no movement and grind it out, ugly defensive games. but love it or hate it, these past 3 games w/out jefferson and with kemba basically carrying the offense as a 6'1" guard, those sixer teams are the best example of what we are playing like right now. kemba is doing the best iverson impression i've seen - he's just a thousand percent more likeable and a thousand percent less popular.

low 40s fg% on tons of volume, lightning fast, lots of mid-range jumpers after clearing space with devastating dribbles, ultra aggressive attacking the rim off the dribble, incredible energy, tons of heart, underrated defense and a team that basically just exists to play defense and set picks for the scoring guard to get free, then stand and watch. kemba is iverson these last few games.

I hated those teams specifically b/c AI had to be a SG, he couldn't be an actual PG and run a team. So they had to find big PGs like Snow and Ollie that were capable of sort of guarding SGs because AI was bad enough guarding PGs as it was. Those teams always seemed like they were handicapped from the start because of that and unless AI went unconscious with scoring and the rest of the team defended their asses off they were fighting an uphill battle.

It's sort of the same vein of my hate for Big Al. Such a positional bugaboo that it's just a headache trying to build a team around. Kemba ain't the scorer AI was but I think he's a better defender and much better PG than the Answer, and I'm still kind of lukewarm about Kemba as a "true" PG.


I've been saying that the good thing about having Lance is that he's a big guard who is more of a playmaker, this is the perfect situation where we can move Kemba to be the scoring guard which is the position he excels at.

Instead of throwing in the towel and shipping out Lance we should recognize his skillset and adjust our system. Kemba can still help Lance advance the rock if need be, but his main role should be to get in scoring position. Lance isn't a very good scorer, but he makes plays, we should tell him to focus on running the offense and let the others score so he wont feel compelled to force shots.

If we do want to trade we have assets where we should be able to get the right big man to take us to the next level.
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Re: GT: Pelicans vs Hornets Wed Jan 7th 7PM EST 

Post#423 » by Braggins » Thu Jan 8, 2015 10:27 am

I want Kemba and Lance to essentially split time handling the ball with Kemba focusing more on scoring and Lance more on playmaking. At the end of games and on important possessions the ball still needs to be in Kemba's hands because he is so much less turnover prone. I'd like to see them both average about 6 assist per game. If we continue to play more uptempo there should be plenty of opportunities for both of them to get their touches. I'd like to see something like 19/6/4 from Kemba and 15/6/6 from Lance.
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Re: GT: Pelicans vs Hornets Wed Jan 7th 7PM EST 

Post#424 » by BigSlam » Thu Jan 8, 2015 2:11 pm

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BizGilwalker wrote:When Steph asked what's working for the team (or something like it), he immediately said that since Al went down, we're playing faster, and players are learning their roles and how to play together with more ball movement. He also emphasized that our defense is much improved. I may be reaching, but he is 100% correct and it's right in line with what we're all saying here. When Al is less than 100%, we are a better team without him. If Al is 100% for a couple months a year, and he's holding us back on both ends for the rest of it, is he really worth it?

Thanks BizGil. NBALP generally cuts off up here as soon as the game is done so I don't get post game interviews.

It is great to see Hobe and MKG really start to advance their games with Al out.


How is LP? Is it reliable?


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Reliable as in does it always show a our games?

If that's what you are wondering: There are three cable carriers up here - Rogers, Bell and Shaw. I have Rogers because they have the best LP package by far. They usually show all games plus college games. Costs me $40 a month (on top of the usual cable package I have). Think the whole thing runs me about $120 a month.

Rogers doesn't go down that often so with them showing 99% of Charlotte games and rarely going down I'd say, yes, It's reliable up here.

Hope that answered your question?
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Re: GT: Pelicans vs Hornets Wed Jan 7th 7PM EST 

Post#425 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 3:51 pm

Good win. Kardiac Kemba back at it, looking like it's UConn all over again in the NBA. It would be nice if he can keep up this high level of play and carry the Hornets back into playoff contention before Jefferson return from injury

Sidebar, I don't see anything in Omer Asik that warrant him making $14 million annually while people consider Bismack Biyombo a bust
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Re: GT: Pelicans vs Hornets Wed Jan 7th 7PM EST 

Post#426 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Jan 8, 2015 3:53 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:Good win. Kardiac Kemba back at it, looking like it's UConn all over again in the NBA. It would be nice if he can keep up this high level of play and carry the Hornets back into playoff contention before Jefferson return from injury

Sidebar, I don't see anything in Omer Asik that warrant him making $14 million annually while people consider Bismack Biyombo a bust


Rockets back loaded the hell out of Asik and Lins contract I believe.
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Re: GT: Pelicans vs Hornets Wed Jan 7th 7PM EST 

Post#427 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 4:03 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
mrknowitall215 wrote:Good win. Kardiac Kemba back at it, looking like it's UConn all over again in the NBA. It would be nice if he can keep up this high level of play and carry the Hornets back into playoff contention before Jefferson return from injury

Sidebar, I don't see anything in Omer Asik that warrant him making $14 million annually while people consider Bismack Biyombo a bust


Rockets back loaded the hell out of Asik and Lins contract I believe.


Indeed it was back-loaded, essentially $8.3 million annually (3 years/$25 million), but if you compare Biyombo's numbers to Asik's they are almost parallel, whereas Asik is a slightly better scorer while Biyombo is a slightly better shot blocker. I'm just making comparison's sake to stating that Biyombo could easily be a better starting C in this league than Asik once he fully turn the development curve. Biyombo right now is as good if not better than Asik was on the Bulls
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Re: GT: Pelicans vs Hornets Wed Jan 7th 7PM EST 

Post#428 » by BeesWax » Thu Jan 8, 2015 4:21 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:
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mrknowitall215 wrote:Good win. Kardiac Kemba back at it, looking like it's UConn all over again in the NBA. It would be nice if he can keep up this high level of play and carry the Hornets back into playoff contention before Jefferson return from injury

Sidebar, I don't see anything in Omer Asik that warrant him making $14 million annually while people consider Bismack Biyombo a bust


Rockets back loaded the hell out of Asik and Lins contract I believe.


Indeed it was back-loaded, essentially $8.3 million annually (3 years/$25 million), but if you compare Biyombo's numbers to Asik's they are almost parallel, whereas Asik is a slightly better scorer while Biyombo is a slightly better shot blocker. I'm just making comparison's sake to stating that Biyombo could easily be a better starting C in this league than Asik once he fully turn the development curve. Biyombo right now is as good if not better than Asik was on the Bulls

Yeah when you consider the 28 to 22 age gap it is a bit crazy.
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Re: GT: Pelicans vs Hornets Wed Jan 7th 7PM EST 

Post#429 » by yosemiteben » Thu Jan 8, 2015 4:24 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:Sidebar, I don't see anything in Omer Asik that warrant him making $14 million annually while people consider Bismack Biyombo a bust

Completely agree. Don't know how NOP fans feel, but I would hate to have Omer around making that kind of money.
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Re: GT: Pelicans vs Hornets Wed Jan 7th 7PM EST 

Post#430 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 4:30 pm

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Re: GT: Pelicans vs Hornets Wed Jan 7th 7PM EST 

Post#431 » by LamarMatic7 » Thu Jan 8, 2015 5:03 pm

ahh... the glorious end of game play-calling never disappoints.

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Re: GT: Pelicans vs Hornets Wed Jan 7th 7PM EST 

Post#432 » by Eoghan » Thu Jan 8, 2015 6:42 pm

ball teacher wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:
fatlever wrote:
yeah, i hated those teams as well. they represented the two things i hated the most about that late 90s, early 00s brand of NBA - isocentric offenses with no movement and grind it out, ugly defensive games. but love it or hate it, these past 3 games w/out jefferson and with kemba basically carrying the offense as a 6'1" guard, those sixer teams are the best example of what we are playing like right now. kemba is doing the best iverson impression i've seen - he's just a thousand percent more likeable and a thousand percent less popular.

low 40s fg% on tons of volume, lightning fast, lots of mid-range jumpers after clearing space with devastating dribbles, ultra aggressive attacking the rim off the dribble, incredible energy, tons of heart, underrated defense and a team that basically just exists to play defense and set picks for the scoring guard to get free, then stand and watch. kemba is iverson these last few games.

I hated those teams specifically b/c AI had to be a SG, he couldn't be an actual PG and run a team. So they had to find big PGs like Snow and Ollie that were capable of sort of guarding SGs because AI was bad enough guarding PGs as it was. Those teams always seemed like they were handicapped from the start because of that and unless AI went unconscious with scoring and the rest of the team defended their asses off they were fighting an uphill battle.

It's sort of the same vein of my hate for Big Al. Such a positional bugaboo that it's just a headache trying to build a team around. Kemba ain't the scorer AI was but I think he's a better defender and much better PG than the Answer, and I'm still kind of lukewarm about Kemba as a "true" PG.


I've been saying that the good thing about having Lance is that he's a big guard who is more of a playmaker, this is the perfect situation where we can move Kemba to be the scoring guard which is the position he excels at.

Instead of throwing in the towel and shipping out Lance we should recognize his skillset and adjust our system. Kemba can still help Lance advance the rock if need be, but his main role should be to get in scoring position. Lance isn't a very good scorer, but he makes plays, we should tell him to focus on running the offense and let the others score so he wont feel compelled to force shots.

If we do want to trade we have assets where we should be able to get the right big man to take us to the next level.

I'd like the team to pursue this angle too. I don't know about Lance being the de facto PG but I'd like him to do more playmaking and being the triple-double threat that is his game. I'd really like to see Lance just unleashed with the second unit so Kemba can get some rest.
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Re: GT: Pelicans vs Hornets Wed Jan 7th 7PM EST 

Post#433 » by Al Kidd-Walker » Thu Jan 8, 2015 9:02 pm

Look at Anthony Davis getting acquainted with his future teammates 5:55
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRLH_Mnd1mM

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