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Mo Williams/Troy Daniels for Gary Neal + 2nd - Done

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Re: Mo Williams/Troy Daniels for Gary Neal + 2nd - Done 

Post#101 » by yosemiteben » Thu Feb 12, 2015 5:49 am

catch20two wrote:I think Roberts will start over MoWill for at least 2-3 games off the bat. It would shock me if MoWill started his first game with Charlotte.

Same, has nothing to do with production. Honestly I'm surprised anyone would think otherwise.
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Re: Mo Williams/Troy Daniels for Gary Neal + 2nd - Done 

Post#102 » by Braggins » Thu Feb 12, 2015 2:29 pm

The only reason I think there is a chance Mo could start over Roberts from the the get-go is that we have this big break for all-star weekend so we might be able to familiarize him with the system enough to where a few games to feel things out might not be necessary. I still think he'll probably come off the bench for a couple games but I wouldn't be surprised if he was the starter in his first game.

Troy Daniels seems like a very interesting wildcard addition to this deal. Given how starved we are for shooting, I don't think it is out of the question he could earn a full-time backup spot. Mo, Daniels, Lance, Marvin, Biz has some potential. Biz can make such a big defensive impact against second units that we could probably get away with a Mo/Troy backcourt. Daniels might just be the best shooter on our roster and he is obviously not afraid to let em fly (12.5 per game in d-league).

This trade keeps seeming better and better the more I think about it. Mo still has some serious game.
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Re: Mo Williams/Troy Daniels for Gary Neal + 2nd - Done 

Post#103 » by JMAC3 » Thu Feb 12, 2015 9:21 pm

I think this was a great deal by us, we gave up virtually nothing and solved two of our biggest problems..... PG and shooting.

Gary Neal has been awful from behind the arc and with Mo and Troy we get two guys who aren't afraid to get up 3-5 three point attempts a night and both keep the defense spaced and honest. The Second round pick to us was basically worthless, its 4 years down the line and we have not done anything great with second round picks in the past.

After this trade we have a good amount of guys I feel comfortable shooting the three ball....
Kemba
Marvin
Mo
Troy
PJ
Brian Roberts
and occasionally Hendo and Jeff Taylor

Now Coach Cliff just needs to find a way to play these guys together in order to have better spacing on the floor.
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Re: Mo Williams/Troy Daniels for Gary Neal + 2nd - Done 

Post#104 » by HornetJail » Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:19 pm

JMAC3 wrote:I think this was a great deal by us, we gave up virtually nothing and solved two of our biggest problems..... PG and shooting.

Gary Neal has been awful from behind the arc and with Mo and Troy we get two guys who aren't afraid to get up 3-5 three point attempts a night and both keep the defense spaced and honest. The Second round pick to us was basically worthless, its 4 years down the line and we have not done anything great with second round picks in the past.

After this trade we have a good amount of guys I feel comfortable shooting the three ball....
Kemba
Marvin
Mo
Troy
PJ
Brian Roberts
and occasionally Hendo and Jeff Taylor

Now Coach Cliff just needs to find a way to play these guys together in order to have better spacing on the floor.

And only Kemba, PJ, Mo, and Daniels are the only players who should actively look for their shots from deep. Especially Mo. The guys we just brought in are likely our top 2 three-point shooters. All of our "3-point shooters" (Kemba, Brian, Marvin, PJ, Hendo, Neal) shot 33% or less from deep so far this year. Lance is at 15%. We're dead last in 3P% at .308. Mo is going to have a bigger impact than we realize.
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Re: Mo Williams/Troy Daniels for Gary Neal + 2nd - Done 

Post#105 » by TheKingofSting » Sat Feb 14, 2015 3:05 am

Hopefully this pushes Roberts to the bench when Kemba is healthy.
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Re: Mo Williams/Troy Daniels for Gary Neal + 2nd - Done 

Post#106 » by fatlever » Mon Feb 16, 2015 10:33 pm

Eric Pincus ‏@EricPincus 40m40 minutes ago

FWIW - Mo Williams got a bump in pay from $3.7 mil to $3.97 mil with a trade bonus in deal to Hornets @BBallInsiders http://www.basketballinsiders.com/charlotte-horn
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Re: Mo Williams/Troy Daniels for Gary Neal + 2nd - Done 

Post#107 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:27 am

TheKingofSting wrote:Hopefully this pushes Roberts to the bench when Kemba is healthy.


Hopefully to the edge so one butt cheek is on the bench while the other is off, causing him to eventually topple over and fall off the bench indefinitely.
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Re: Mo Williams/Troy Daniels for Gary Neal + 2nd - Done 

Post#108 » by catch20two » Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:42 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
TheKingofSting wrote:Hopefully this pushes Roberts to the bench when Kemba is healthy.


Hopefully to the edge so one butt cheek is on the bench while the other is off, causing him to eventually topple over and fall off the bench indefinitely.

Let some tell it Roberts was playing well shooting 30% on FGs and 25% on 3s over the past few games starting.
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Re: Mo Williams/Troy Daniels for Gary Neal + 2nd - Done 

Post#109 » by MasterIchiro » Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:45 am

catch20two wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
TheKingofSting wrote:Hopefully this pushes Roberts to the bench when Kemba is healthy.


Hopefully to the edge so one butt cheek is on the bench while the other is off, causing him to eventually topple over and fall off the bench indefinitely.


Let some tell it Roberts was playing well shooting 30% on FGs and 25% on 3s over the past few games starting.


Misfire by Cho, same with Marv.
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Re: Mo Williams/Troy Daniels for Gary Neal + 2nd - Done 

Post#110 » by catch20two » Tue Feb 17, 2015 12:47 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
catch20two wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
Hopefully to the edge so one butt cheek is on the bench while the other is off, causing him to eventually topple over and fall off the bench indefinitely.


Let some tell it Roberts was playing well shooting 30% on FGs and 25% on 3s over the past few games starting.


Misfire by Cho, same with Marv.

Same with Lance too. Our entire free agency was a misfire.
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Re: Mo Williams/Troy Daniels for Gary Neal + 2nd - Done 

Post#111 » by Snidely FC » Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:19 pm

I woke up today and realized: Gary Neal is gone! It's like Christmas in July!
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Re: Mo Williams/Troy Daniels for Gary Neal + 2nd - Done 

Post#112 » by TheKingofSting » Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:43 am

Woot, woot!
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Re: Mo Williams/Troy Daniels for Gary Neal + 2nd - Done 

Post#113 » by RyanJamari » Wed Feb 18, 2015 1:21 pm

Mo for a 2nd is a great deal. This is a guy that had a 50 point game this year!!
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Re: Mo Williams/Troy Daniels for Gary Neal + 2nd - Done 

Post#114 » by LofJ » Wed Feb 18, 2015 3:13 pm

Neal for Mo is a damn steal. If there's one thing you can say about Cho, he knows how to work the trade market. It's going to be nice not having to worry about Neal coming off the bench chucking up shots (and missing them) like he's a 6th man of the year candidate.
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Re: Mo Williams/Troy Daniels for Gary Neal + 2nd - Done 

Post#115 » by yosemiteben » Wed Feb 18, 2015 8:38 pm

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Grabbing Mo was an especially nice get considering the fact that multiple other teams could use PG depth this season.

It's still sinking in that Neal won't be around for minutes, and it's certainly not outside the realm of possibility that Lance gets benched. Gonna be a lot of PT available and a scoring void with the second unit.
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Post#116 » by BlackOutBuzz » Wed Feb 18, 2015 9:36 pm

Send them Brian Roberts back, I'd even take Salmons' expiring and maybe a 2nd.

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