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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Atlanta Sat March 28 7PM EST 

Post#201 » by tondi123 » Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:24 am

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I still don't understand how people say he is old. Look at his baby face, he barely have hair on his chin...

He got laser hair removal on his entire face to fool people. He has to go back to Africa every summer for follow up treatment. The summer camp is just a rouse. I heard Zach Lowe has a classified picture of Biz with a Santa Claus beard that was taken before he declared for the draft.


Yeah I must have been fooled by the media too..


I hear Lowe has a pic of Biz sitting on Santas lap when back when he was a kid









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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Atlanta Sat March 28 7PM EST 

Post#202 » by yosemiteben » Sun Mar 29, 2015 12:24 pm

Braggins wrote:I dont understand how we so easily closed out that game with some old African dude playing instead of our only scoring option.

Had something to do with Hendo, Mo and PJ going 19 - 23 from the field. Not exactly the norm.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Atlanta Sat March 28 7PM EST 

Post#203 » by BeesWax » Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:10 pm

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Braggins wrote:I dont understand how we so easily closed out that game with some old African dude playing instead of our only scoring option.

Had something to do with Hendo, Mo and PJ going 19 - 23 from the field. Not exactly the norm.

The question is could it be closer to the norm if we ran a functional offense instead of Alfense? It helps we played against all backups too.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Atlanta Sat March 28 7PM EST 

Post#204 » by tondi123 » Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:37 pm

Kemba played his best ball of the season (and possibly his career)when All was out last time. Coincidence?
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Post#205 » by catch20two » Sun Mar 29, 2015 2:55 pm

tondi123 wrote:Kemba played his best ball of the season (and possibly his career)when All was out last time. Coincidence?

I'd say Kemba played his best season the year before we signed Al too. Nope, not a coincidence. Even MKG was more of a highlight reel driving the lane and spinning off players that year.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Atlanta Sat March 28 7PM EST 

Post#206 » by Braggins » Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:52 pm

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Braggins wrote:I dont understand how we so easily closed out that game with some old African dude playing instead of our only scoring option.

Had something to do with Hendo, Mo and PJ going 19 - 23 from the field. Not exactly the norm.

Does that explain us being 15-8 with Biz as our starter over the last two years?
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Atlanta Sat March 28 7PM EST 

Post#207 » by Braggins » Sun Mar 29, 2015 10:56 pm

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tondi123 wrote:Kemba played his best ball of the season (and possibly his career)when All was out last time. Coincidence?

I'd say Kemba played his best season the year before we signed Al too. Nope, not a coincidence. Even MKG was more of a highlight reel driving the lane and spinning off players that year.

Hendo also had his best season the year before Al/Cliff and has mostly looked like utter garbage since.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Atlanta Sat March 28 7PM EST 

Post#208 » by yosemiteben » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:39 am

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Braggins wrote:I dont understand how we so easily closed out that game with some old African dude playing instead of our only scoring option.

Had something to do with Hendo, Mo and PJ going 19 - 23 from the field. Not exactly the norm.

Does that explain us being 15-8 with Biz as our starter over the last two years?

Obviously yes, PJ, Mo and Hendo went 19 - 23 in all those games too.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Atlanta Sat March 28 7PM EST 

Post#209 » by yosemiteben » Mon Mar 30, 2015 12:43 am

Braggins wrote:Hendo also had his best season the year before Al/Cliff and has mostly looked like utter garbage since.

His stats are very similar over the last three years.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Atlanta Sat March 28 7PM EST 

Post#210 » by Braggins » Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:18 am

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Braggins wrote:Hendo also had his best season the year before Al/Cliff and has mostly looked like utter garbage since.

His stats are very similar over the last three years.

Eh, kind of. His ppgs for the last four seasons are 15.1, 15.5, 14, 12. His fg% was higher the previous two before Al as well. His scoring was trending upwards and in 2012-2013 he and Kemba were a top 5 scoring backcourt. He has looked considerably worse over the last two years imo.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Atlanta Sat March 28 7PM EST 

Post#211 » by Braggins » Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:21 am

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yosemiteben wrote:Had something to do with Hendo, Mo and PJ going 19 - 23 from the field. Not exactly the norm.

Does that explain us being 15-8 with Biz as our starter over the last two years?

Obviously yes, PJ, Mo and Hendo went 19 - 23 in all those games too.

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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Atlanta Sat March 28 7PM EST 

Post#212 » by ball teacher » Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:05 am

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tondi123 wrote:Kemba played his best ball of the season (and possibly his career)when All was out last time. Coincidence?

I'd say Kemba played his best season the year before we signed Al too. Nope, not a coincidence. Even MKG was more of a highlight reel driving the lane and spinning off players that year.


The year before Al came, Dunlap ran the offense Kemba had in college that helped him become so productive. Essentially, we gave him a high pick to help him get open looks to score, the whole offense was designed around him as a scorer, I guess you could call it Kembaffense, we also sucked pretty bad that season.

The problem with Kemba is that he's not capable of getting good numbers in the flow of the game on the regular. He needs alot of picks and plays designed for him where he has to do alot of running to try to lose his defender (which maybe why his fg percentage is always bad from having to use his legs so much working hard for every shot due to his lack of size).
Also, Kemba is not a floor general, he's a scoring guard but..he's not even a efficient scorer. He's got heart and he doesn't fear the big shots, but he's not a solid pure PG. If he couldnt score 20ppg with a offense designed for him, nor could he shoot a good percentage that is telling. I'd keep Hendo, Zeller (maybe Vonleh) and MKG and I'd clean house to get picks or quality players if we miss the playoffs. I dont see Kemba as a guy you build around, he would be a quality addition with the right team though.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Atlanta Sat March 28 7PM EST 

Post#213 » by ball teacher » Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:11 am

As much flack as Hendo gets, he and Kemba shoot about the same 3pt percentage but Hendo is the better fg percentage overall as well as a better defender. Hendo has been the most consistent player the past 3-4 years, and I hate Duke and players from there.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Atlanta Sat March 28 7PM EST 

Post#214 » by catch20two » Mon Mar 30, 2015 7:17 am

Lol. Hendo hasn't been halfway more important to this team than Kemba has been.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Atlanta Sat March 28 7PM EST 

Post#215 » by ball teacher » Mon Mar 30, 2015 1:59 pm

catch20two wrote:Lol. Hendo hasn't been halfway more important to this team than Kemba has been.


Hendo has CLEARLY been the most consistent player for this team the past few seasons. Kemba played one month of good ball this season, was up and down last season with a mediocre playoff showing. Hendo is very important for this team and is a part of the reason we're known as a tough defensive unit. He's professional, plays defense, is a more reliable scorer percentage wise, and he hasnt missed the games Kemba has nor struggled for weeks at a time like Kemba. The guy has been a solid consistent player for us bro, more consistent than anyone else.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Atlanta Sat March 28 7PM EST 

Post#216 » by ball teacher » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:08 pm

I'm not making the case of who's more important, even though thats even debatble, I'm saying Hendo has been the most consistent in his play. The guy is a solid SG, if he can devote the offseason to 3pt shooting that'll be a major plus for his game and for us.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Atlanta Sat March 28 7PM EST 

Post#217 » by mrknowitall215 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 2:16 pm

The only thing Gerald Henderson has been consistent at is being slightly below average with a 13 PER
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Atlanta Sat March 28 7PM EST 

Post#218 » by ball teacher » Mon Mar 30, 2015 4:19 pm

mrknowitall215 wrote:The only thing Gerald Henderson has been consistent at is being slightly below average with a 13 PER


I dont know what a per is, but I do know from actually watching the games that he's definitely not a weak link, he definitely is one of the better wing defenders in the league, and for the past couple of seasons he may not have been all star like, but he's been a consistently solid contributor. He and MKG are probably the best perimeter defensive combinations in the league which is why our defense with Al and marv at the 4 is still respectable. Hendo is on of the top 10-15 SG's in the league

Edit No way is Hendo a below average player at his position or in the league. He's a good player...and I hate Dukies....with a passion.
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Re: GT: Charlotte vs Atlanta Sat March 28 7PM EST 

Post#219 » by mrknowitall215 » Mon Mar 30, 2015 5:03 pm

ball teacher wrote:No way is Hendo a below average player at his position or in the league.


15.0 PER (PER = player efficiency rating) is the average NBA player efficiency rating --- not by position. Henderson has floated below that through over 80% of his career

Henderson only appear efficient or is acceptable because the team has yet to acquire a above average player at his position. To be partially fair, the talent level at the shooting guard position in the NBA has become scarce
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