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Re: GT: Hornets vs 76ers Fri Nov 20 7PM EST 

Post#221 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:07 pm

Walker up to 43% from the field and 37% from deep. I'll gladly take that from him.
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Re: GT: Hornets vs 76ers Fri Nov 20 7PM EST 

Post#222 » by MasterIchiro » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:26 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:Walker up to 43% from the field and 37% from deep. I'll gladly take that from him.


.434 and .373

And he's been sharing the ball more the past few games. Imagine getting the ball in a position to score? That never happened for him last year. It happens with regularity now thanks to our improved offense led by Batum.

How do his shooting percentages stack up against Lillard, Batum's most recent point guard?
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Re: GT: Hornets vs 76ers Fri Nov 20 7PM EST 

Post#223 » by Braggins » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:45 pm

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Liver_Pooty wrote:Walker up to 43% from the field and 37% from deep. I'll gladly take that from him.


.434 and .373

And he's been sharing the ball more the past few games. Imagine getting the ball in a position to score? That never happened for him last year. It happens with regularity now thanks to our improved offense led by Batum.

How do his shooting percentages stack up against Lillard, Batum's most recent point guard?

42.9/37.5 so far this season. 43.4/34.3 last season. Portland fans will tell you that Dame did a lot of his work the last two seasons off the ball. They used Batum as a primary ball handler just as much as Lillard. Kemba has been so much more active off-ball these last few games. Its amazing how much playing with other good players can change things. I wonder how much differently people would view Lillard if he would have been drafted by us instead of Portland. Hes never been that efficient, is a weak defender, gets a lot more turnovers, and barely gets assists at higher rate, but the difference in perception compared to Kemba is massive despite having similar weaknesses. Hes an all-star and considered one of the best young guards in the league, whereas most of our own fans don't even consider Kemba to be an average starter.

I'd like to see Kemba maintain averages of 17 pts, 3.5 reb, 6 ass., 1.5 stl., .5 blk, on 42/35/83 shooting numbers. If he does that with solid to above average defense and we make the playoffs then its hard to not say he is in the top 15 among starting PG's.
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Re: GT: Hornets vs 76ers Fri Nov 20 7PM EST 

Post#224 » by HornetJail » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:47 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Walker up to 43% from the field and 37% from deep. I'll gladly take that from him.


.434 and .373

And he's been sharing the ball more the past few games. Imagine getting the ball in a position to score? That never happened for him last year. It happens with regularity now thanks to our improved offense led by Batum.

How do his shooting percentages stack up against Lillard, Batum's most recent point guard?

Virtually identical to Lillard. Except Lillard averages way more turnovers.

Not really a fair assessment, since Kemba doesn't score as much as Lillard, Kemba's efficiency is roughly where I hoped it would be this season. Now he needs to just keep it up around where it is and increase the volume, or get his teammates involved even more.
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Re: GT: Hornets vs 76ers Fri Nov 20 7PM EST 

Post#225 » by bws94 » Sat Nov 21, 2015 4:59 pm

MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:Walker up to 43% from the field and 37% from deep. I'll gladly take that from him.


.434 and .373

And he's been sharing the ball more the past few games. Imagine getting the ball in a position to score? That never happened for him last year. It happens with regularity now thanks to our improved offense led by Batum.

How do his shooting percentages stack up against Lillard, Batum's most recent point guard?

Virtually identical to Lillard. Except Lillard averages way more turnovers.

Not really a fair assessment, since Kemba doesn't score as much as Lillard, Kemba's efficiency is roughly where I hoped it would be this season. Now he needs to just keep it up around where it is and increase the volume, or get his teammates involved even more.



Raw numbers yes. And Kemba's playing well and sharing the ball better.

I have this perception that LIllard's a better shooter and a deadly 4Q clutch player. Kemba has some clutch in him as well, but why does Lillard seem like a much better shooter? The stats say otherwise.
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Re: GT: Hornets vs 76ers Fri Nov 20 7PM EST 

Post#226 » by HornetJail » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:03 pm

bws94 wrote:
MotorKeepsGoing wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:
.434 and .373

And he's been sharing the ball more the past few games. Imagine getting the ball in a position to score? That never happened for him last year. It happens with regularity now thanks to our improved offense led by Batum.

How do his shooting percentages stack up against Lillard, Batum's most recent point guard?

Virtually identical to Lillard. Except Lillard averages way more turnovers.

Not really a fair assessment, since Kemba doesn't score as much as Lillard, Kemba's efficiency is roughly where I hoped it would be this season. Now he needs to just keep it up around where it is and increase the volume, or get his teammates involved even more.



Raw numbers yes. And Kemba's playing well and sharing the ball better.

I have this perception that LIllard's a better shooter and a deadly 4Q clutch player. Kemba has some clutch in him as well, but why does Lillard seem like a much better shooter? The stats say otherwise.

In the past, Kemba's percentages have been doo-doo. Lillard has never been some kind of efficiency model, but he volume scores at a decent percentage. During Lillard's rookie year and Kemba's 2nd year, that was a very valid debate. Lillard always had the edge as a shooter, but Kemba was a better all-around player aside from that. Since then, Lillard took off with a top 4 team in the West around him, and Kemba got Al Jefferson and non-shooters.
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Re: GT: Hornets vs 76ers Fri Nov 20 7PM EST 

Post#227 » by ChokeFasncists » Sat Nov 21, 2015 5:46 pm

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yosemiteben wrote:It's super early, but so far Noel has been pretty inefficient offensively so I wouldn't say they are working out perfectly. Noel currently has a TS% of 43%.

I'm thinking more of a offense/defense (rebound) combo.

Isn't it kinda like what Jerry Krause had in mind when he drafted Curry and Chandler?

The problem is that Noel is giving up what makes him unique when he guards PFs on the perimeter. I haven't watched him enough to know whether he can do it effectively, though I assume he can, but that keeps him from providing the same sort of rim protection that he is able to provide when he guards centers who hang our around the paint. If he is not a major help defensively in the paint because he is drawn out to the perimeter and he has a FG% below 40% because there's no room in the paint due to Okafor, that's going to be a tough situation for him.

Ha, now they're thinking about switching their positions.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/Brown-considers-having-Noel-Okafor-swap-positions.html
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Re: GT: Hornets vs 76ers Fri Nov 20 7PM EST 

Post#228 » by Mystical Apples » Sat Nov 21, 2015 6:13 pm

ChokeFasncists wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:
ChokeFasncists wrote:I'm thinking more of a offense/defense (rebound) combo.

Isn't it kinda like what Jerry Krause had in mind when he drafted Curry and Chandler?

The problem is that Noel is giving up what makes him unique when he guards PFs on the perimeter. I haven't watched him enough to know whether he can do it effectively, though I assume he can, but that keeps him from providing the same sort of rim protection that he is able to provide when he guards centers who hang our around the paint. If he is not a major help defensively in the paint because he is drawn out to the perimeter and he has a FG% below 40% because there's no room in the paint due to Okafor, that's going to be a tough situation for him.

Ha, now they're thinking about switching their positions.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/sixers/Brown-considers-having-Noel-Okafor-swap-positions.html


Yikes - Okafor will get destroyed on defense
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