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Re: Hornets vs. Heat Series Thread 

Post#261 » by HornetJail » Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:50 am

LofJ wrote:Wade insinuated that they're going to rough up anyone that tries to drive through the lane tomorrow. We should prepare ourselves for some dirty plays on Kemba and Lin. If it happens we need to respond in kind.
Wade has been uncharacteristically clean in this series. Now that his team is down and things are frustrating, I'm apprehensive about this comment.

If he does try any funny business, we do have a guy who has a little history with Wade [youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hkQx5Dk8jA[/youtube]
investigate Adam Silver
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Post#262 » by ChokeFasncists » Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:51 am

fatlever wrote:I just find it hilarious that Heat fans, of all fanbases, are complaining about refs.

Spoiled?
MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
Thanks for the honesty.
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Post#263 » by ChokeFasncists » Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:56 am

qiantom wrote:I believe defense has been the key for Hornets to turn the series around as coach also indicated. The Heat has not bee able to get over 90 points for the last three games. The impressive thing is that they are doing it without a true rim protector like Whiteside, and without by far the best defender of the team in MKG. I don't know how they do it, but keep doing it.

There's no diva on the roster, everyone plays hard, several players can play 2 positions, mobile bigs. (except Al, but his slapping is surprisingly effective, and he has a weight advantage on Whitebackside)
MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
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Post#264 » by ChokeFasncists » Fri Apr 29, 2016 1:57 am

fatlever wrote:If there is a game 7 it will be at 1PM on Sunday on ABC.

Doesn't that mean there must not be a game 7?

Back to the wall! Go all out!
MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
Thanks for the honesty.
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Post#265 » by ChokeFasncists » Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:53 am

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steady wrote:Haven't been around for a while.

Nice to see everyone's comments. As always, provide insights impossible to get in press.

Here is nice article about the Hornets depth, that (as a team play proponent) warmed my heart.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2016/4/28/11476806/charlotte-hornets-miami-heat-nba-playoffs-2016-game-5

Cheers to everyone. Go Hornets!


We're seeing the benefit of that deep roster and having 3 guys who can run the offense on the floor together (at times). Heat ran everything thru Wade in the 4th, Hornets had all 3 of Kemba, Lin and Batum initiating offense.

It's really great that Lin and Kemba compliment each other so well and they heat up together at the right time in game 4

Then Nic&Co heat up from deep at the right time in game 5.

Game 3 was Marvin's bounce back, Frank's maturing and Cody's motor.
MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
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Post#266 » by ChokeFasncists » Fri Apr 29, 2016 2:55 am

fatlever wrote:we need a game 6 thread. who is up for the task?

in the meantime, Hawes is doubtful for tomorrow. I don't even remember him getting hurt.

No Hawes could be big. He stretches the floor, makes some great passes and has some toughness at the other end.

Really hope he plays if he can, even just a little bit, don't wanna mess up a good thing.

Wasn't Cody hobbled too?
MorbidHEAT wrote:My dislike for Lin started during Linsanity. It was absurd. It's probably irrational dislike at this point, but man he gets on my nerves. He's been tearing us up though.
Thanks for the honesty.
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Post#267 » by 2k15 » Fri Apr 29, 2016 5:15 am

ChokeFasncists wrote:
fatlever wrote:we need a game 6 thread. who is up for the task?

in the meantime, Hawes is doubtful for tomorrow. I don't even remember him getting hurt.

No Hawes could be big. He stretches the floor, makes some great passes and has some toughness at the other end.

Really hope he plays if he can, even just a little bit, don't wanna mess up a good thing.

Wasn't Cody hobbled too?



Coach says Cody is sore but expects him to play tomorrow. Hawes has been very solid, we'll miss him. Hopefully not too much.
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Post#268 » by euphorbus » Sat Apr 30, 2016 6:01 am

Once again, Coach Clifford failed to make any in-game personnel adjustments. His solution to problems seems to be "Try harder!" The team was shooting miserably from three, and Troy Daniels checked in. Then he was gone a minute and a half later, never got off a shot. The team was getting killed on the boards, the bigs failed to box out, and Hansbrough, the team's second-leading rebounder per 36 minutes, a gritty, determined player if ever there was one, never saw the court. Kaminsky was getting embarrassed by Luol Deng, and the coach never tried to put a different defender on him. He was thoroughly out-coached. In fact, the only big personnel adjustment he has made in the series, to start Kaminsky when Batum went down, then have him post up against their small four, was suggested by Jordan and Ewing.

He did change tactics between games, but you have to do it in the middle of a big game like this one, game six at home with a 3-2 lead. Instead, he kept to the "game plan," whatever it was, even though Miami was shooting 63% once again and making a mockery of his strategy.
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Post#269 » by yosemiteben » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:35 pm

euphorbus wrote:He did change tactics between games, but you have to do it in the middle of a big game like this one, game six at home with a 3-2 lead. Instead, he kept to the "game plan," whatever it was, even though Miami was shooting 63% once again and making a mockery of his strategy.

Did you notice a difference in our defense and MIA's offense in the second half? How does that fit into this complaint?
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Post#270 » by yosemiteben » Sat Apr 30, 2016 1:52 pm

I really didn't expect to win Game 5 in MIA, and I very much expected to win Game 6. Now I'm expecting to lose Game 7. Maybe we'll win?
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Post#271 » by RexBoyWonder » Sat Apr 30, 2016 3:14 pm

Who is purple shirt guy?

I hope he comes down for game 7. Very energetic. Lucky charm of sorts.
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Post#272 » by fatlever » Sat Apr 30, 2016 4:02 pm

Purple Shirt Guy (or as the rest of us know him as Idiot Who Touched Durant) is getting all the headlines today.

http://www.sbnation.com/lookit/2016/4/30/11543826/purple-shirt-man-heckler-hornets-dwyane-wade-heat-nba-playoffs
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Post#273 » by bws94 » Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:14 pm

All that guy did was pump Wade up.
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Post#274 » by arthy704 » Sat Apr 30, 2016 5:29 pm

That purple guy should of sat down.


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Post#275 » by euphorbus » Sat Apr 30, 2016 6:40 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
euphorbus wrote:He did change tactics between games, but you have to do it in the middle of a big game like this one, game six at home with a 3-2 lead. Instead, he kept to the "game plan," whatever it was, even though Miami was shooting 63% once again and making a mockery of his strategy.

Did you notice a difference in our defense and MIA's offense in the second half? How does that fit into this complaint?


1) The team actually did play harder, and with more aggressiveness, on defense in the second half. The Heat’s shooting percentage went way down. But the Heat still committed more shooting fouls than did the Hornets for the game: the Heat were 13-15 at the line, but the Hornets 21-25.

2) In terms of strategy, the Hornets doubled down on packing the paint, rather than changing it, leading to a number of missed shots or blocked near the basket and in the lane in the third quarter. Nevertheless, the Hornets failed to block out, and continued to give up offensive rebounds at the same rate. For the game overall, they had 83 shots to our 76. It’s hard to win that way. As a result of this strategy, the Heat continued to make three-pointers at a 50% rate: two in each quarter, with the last two coming from Wade.

3) Meanwhile, the Hornets took but one more three-pointer, and ended up shooting 5-17. I wrote in the game thread that Miami could not stop this team if they rained threes. It never happened, in part because Cody Zeller was the only one setting good screens, and he played half the number of minutes of Frank Kaminsky. Also, the Hornets never deployed their other two three-point threats, Daniels and Lamb. Daniels, not coincidentally, shot an astounding .484 from three in the regular season.

4) Also on the offensive side, Marvin Williams was 0-7 in 37 minutes, Courtney Lee was 1-2 in 40 minutes, and Jeremy Lin was 1-8 in 24 minutes. The team was tired, hurt and desperately needed some fresh shooters off the bench, plus someone---Hansbrough--to set screens and hit the offensive glass.
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Post#276 » by yosemiteben » Sat Apr 30, 2016 7:06 pm

So you're sticking with the complaint from Game 6 of not making in game adjustments despite a drastic change in the game in the second half?
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Post#277 » by Snidely FC » Sat Apr 30, 2016 8:19 pm

I think this has been an amazing high-level basketball series that has included coaching of the highest order from Clifford and Spoelstra. Absolute coaching clinic on both sides imo. I have to give Spoelstra credit for his game plan in H1 last night, to post up his bigger wings. Cliff took that away in H2, and Spoelstra's offense shifted to Dragic penetration. Meanwhile, Heat focused on not allowing CHA PGs to drive, Kemba quick and crafty enough they still couldn't stop him, but the plan shut down Lin, and allowed Heat to stick to shooters on the 3 pt line, because it shut off the drive and kick. I think it's too simplistic to say Clifford didn't make changes. He was limited a little by loss of Hawes and Batum, and its unclear how healthy Zeller is. He's certainly not running the floor like an untamed giraffe as usual. And I don't blame Clifford for sticking with the players who got him to game 6 against what looks like the 2nd best team in the EC: Lin, Williams & Lee have keyed our wins. Anyway, as much as I'm bummed about the loss, I expected grizzled vets like Wade, Deng, Johnson and Dragic to fight like he33 to stay alive - that' the player pedigree Riley brings in, and is why they are such a tough out. Gonna have to win a slugfest, and yes Clifford is going to have to find a way to free his shooters, if we're to win on Sunday.
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Post#279 » by rallydurham » Sun May 1, 2016 9:03 am

Cliff and Spoestra are unquestionably two of the best head coaches in the league.

Euphorbus, I'll explain why hansbrough will not play. Miami is going small there is literally not a single player on the court he can guard. In fact, that's why he's on his way out of the league. Even guys like faried who are monster rebounder/defenders with a solid post game are seeing their value rapidly diminshed. It's just a different league.

If you can't shoot the 3 you better be a dive man or you will gum things up offensively. Even guys like blake griffin are becoming less and less valued around the league

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