To break that down even further, in the 4 meetings vs the Cavs almost all of the damage has been done when Lebron + bench plays against our bench to start 2nd/4th Qs.
Our defensive rating vs Cavs with Kemba off the court was 138. 110 with him on court. Even bigger difference was Marvin 141 off, 106 on.
If by some miracle, we make the playoffs and face the Cavs, Clifford has to adjust his rotations to deal with the Lebron + bench lineup.
(checking Cavs on/off vs Hornets to see they are 116/125 off rating with Lebron on/off - realize the world doesn't make sense, closes laptop, goes outside)
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We can't beat our top competitor in our conference because our coach can't make a simple and obvious rotation adjustment and gets burned over and over again by the same simple "lebron vs. our bench" strategy. What about once again leaving MKG on the bench in the 4th when we're playing Lebron? Is it fair to call these examples of bad coaching? Why does Clifford continually get a pass by most fans and media people when this kind of stuff happens all the time and has been a staple of his coaching tenure here?
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Braggins wrote:We can't beat our top competitor in our conference because our coach can't make a simple and obvious rotation adjustment and gets burned over and over again by the same simple "lebron vs. our bench" strategy. What about once again leaving MKG on the bench in the 4th when we're playing Lebron? Is it fair to call these examples of bad coaching? Why does Clifford continually get a pass by most fans and everyone in the media when this kind of stuff happens all the time and has been a staple of his coaching tenure here?
after all coach Clifford is human...
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Braggins wrote:We can't beat our top competitor in our conference because our coach can't make a simple and obvious rotation adjustment and gets burned over and over again by the same simple "lebron vs. our bench" strategy. What about once again leaving MKG on the bench in the 4th when we're playing Lebron? Is it fair to call these examples of bad coaching? Why does Clifford continually get a pass by most fans and media people when this kind of stuff happens all the time and has been a staple of his coaching tenure here?
I've already came to grips that he's a system coach with a good system that's limited in success due to his inability to put the right players on the floor at the right time and lack of in-game adjustments just to scratch the surface.
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Couple questions...
Are we saying Kemba is the difference between our bench's defense crumbling and not? Isn't that what earlier yesterday everyone was saying Briante was good for? MKG was in foul trouble, what adjustment would have made a difference? Frank was the de facto C next to Marv, haven't we been criticizing Cliff all season for taking so long to play him there. Now we are criticizing him for doing that?
Are we now suggesting that Marco should have been benched in Q4? Like the one where he almost single handedly kept us in the game? Not quite following there.
Feels like it's really easy to say "Cliff sucks cause rotations" without there being much substance behind that criticism.
Are we saying Kemba is the difference between our bench's defense crumbling and not? Isn't that what earlier yesterday everyone was saying Briante was good for? MKG was in foul trouble, what adjustment would have made a difference? Frank was the de facto C next to Marv, haven't we been criticizing Cliff all season for taking so long to play him there. Now we are criticizing him for doing that?
Are we now suggesting that Marco should have been benched in Q4? Like the one where he almost single handedly kept us in the game? Not quite following there.
Feels like it's really easy to say "Cliff sucks cause rotations" without there being much substance behind that criticism.
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yosemiteben wrote: MKG was in foul trouble
Shame MKG again in foul trouble.
MKG led the one and only win ever against Lebron - was hoping he could reprise his magic in that beautiful game last season, and lead the 2nd ever win.
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fatlever wrote:Pulisic already with a goal and two assists. still 45 minutes left to play.
10/10 would watch again. Its like Arena read soccer forums and put out everyone's favorite players that weren't getting pt under Jurgen.
Also Landon is surprisingly a pretty good color commentary guy. His voice gets way less annoying when hes talking a lot.