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Woj: CHA making Kemba available in trade talks

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Re: Woj: CHA making Kemba available in trade talks 

Post#301 » by HoopsMalone » Wed Jan 24, 2018 3:57 am

NYG wrote:What are the pros and cons of Kemba Walker? How good is he?

Like if I said how does he rate versus a PG of Damian Lillard’s caliber and you had to choose Kemba is better than Lillard or Kemba is worse than Lillard, which would you choose?



They are very close in value. I'd take Lillard as I like him slightly more in the playoffs. Kemba is more of a penetrator and that can be neutralized by a team with elite rim protection like the Heat or Warriors. Lillard is tougher to stop if he gets rolling from deep. Lillard's defense has improved enough that I'd give him a SLIGHT nod. Long term I'd prefer Lillard as I think Kemba's knees will be an issue.

Immediate term you can't really go wrong either way.
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Re: Woj: CHA making Kemba available in trade talks 

Post#302 » by Hornet Mania » Wed Jan 24, 2018 5:21 pm

I'd consider Kemba the equal of Lillard, they're similar enough statistically but they each hold an edge over the other in different categories.

Lillard is obviously the superior outside shooter with the ability to torch teams, Kemba is a great shooter (these last couple years) but not quite on that level.

The area where Kemba really excels is avoiding turnovers. Lillard is no turnover machine himself, but Kemba is absolutely elite in terms of the time he spends handling the ball vs how little he turns it over. I'll have to dig for the article but I read a piece a year ago that analyzed game tape of PG turnovers (which ones were their fault, which ones were teammates, which ones were liveball turnovers, etc) and the author who was not a Hornet's fan by any means reported with some surprise that CP3 was the best PG in the NBA as judged by protecting the rock...followed very closely by Kemba Walker. In terms of raw stats Lillard's Assist/Turnover ratio is a respectable (for a score-first guard like he and Kemba) 2:1 over the last few years, but Kemba has been closer to 3:1. He is the main reason, with a bullet, why our team had been great at avoiding turnovers during the Clifford era. In a comparison this close it's worth considering if you want a defense-first strategy that views turnovers with absolute dread then you can't do much better than Kemba as your floor general.
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Re: Woj: CHA making Kemba available in trade talks 

Post#303 » by fatlever » Thu Jan 25, 2018 5:32 pm

now we know why mj mentioned leonard in his kemba trade defense

According to Steve Kyler of Basketball Insiders, “The Charlotte Hornets are rumored to have tried to engage on a Leonard deal built around Kemba Walker, which is where many believe the Walker rumors started.” Kyler added that “there is a growing sense that if the Hornets could find a way to pry Spurs forward Kawhi Leonard out of San Antonio, they pull the trigger.” This is just the latest development and rumor surrounding the Charlotte Hornets and Kemba Walker as the plot continues to thicken.


https://swarmandsting.com/2018/01/24/rumor-charlotte-hornets-engaged-san-antonio-spurs-kemba-walker-kawhi-leonard-trade/

slightly old news...
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Re: Woj: CHA making Kemba available in trade talks 

Post#304 » by JDR720 » Thu Jan 25, 2018 6:14 pm

Yeah Id trade Kemba for leonard.
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Re: Woj: CHA making Kemba available in trade talks 

Post#305 » by Hornet Mania » Thu Jan 25, 2018 7:31 pm

If all Cho did was float Kemba+pieces for Kawhi then I don't have any problem with it.
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Re: Woj: CHA making Kemba available in trade talks 

Post#306 » by catch20two » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:02 am

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David Griffin the former GM of the Cavs was on NBATV talking about the possible destinations for Kemba being narrowed down to places where Kemba’s agent Jeff Schwartz has invested interest and that’s how trades around the league usually works. Kinda makes sense when you think about Al Jefferson and MCW both signing here because of their connection to Kemba’s agent.
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Re: Woj: CHA making Kemba available in trade talks 

Post#307 » by stinger14 » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:27 am

catch20two wrote:Image

David Griffin the former GM of the Cavs was on NBATV talking about the possible destinations for Kemba being narrowed down to places where Kemba’s agent Jeff Schwartz has invested interest and that’s how trades around the league usually works. Kinda makes sense when you think about Al Jefferson and MCW both signing here because of their connection to Kemba’s agent.


Interesting, though nothing about the Clippers excites me as trade partners. Not sure the Suns or Pistons excite me as trade partners either. Spurs only interest me if Kawhi is coming back, but it doesn't make sense to trade Kemba and draft picks for him when we aren't going to compete with this roster, and don't have money to improve roster.

Dallas, Denver, Philly have the kind of pieces I am most interested in.
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Re: Woj: CHA making Kemba available in trade talks 

Post#308 » by TheKingofSting » Fri Jan 26, 2018 3:42 am

catch20two wrote:Image

David Griffin the former GM of the Cavs was on NBATV talking about the possible destinations for Kemba being narrowed down to places where Kemba’s agent Jeff Schwartz has invested interest and that’s how trades around the league usually works. Kinda makes sense when you think about Al Jefferson and MCW both signing here because of their connection to Kemba’s agent.


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