GM Search Thread (Woj - Hornets get permission to interview three GM candidates)

[catch20two]

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[HornetJail]

the more the read about Gersson the more I like him. He's got an eye for talent (found Patrick Beverley overseas, found Chandler Parsons in the 2nd round), and has an aversion to being a yes-man (left the Mavericks because Cuban wasn't giving him enough freedom to do what he wanted). Give him a shot.

[Braggins]

I'm dreading the possibility of another year of Clifford, but Gersson really does seem like the best candidate.

[-Ian-]

I'll take Rosas over Kupchak.

[yosemiteben]

I'm Team Rosas, what is there not to like about him?

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

Read through https://www.netsdaily.com/2016/1/29/10866304/meet-gersson-rosas-brooklyn-nets-gm-candidate again.

So Rosas was in Houston for the end of the Rudy T era, 4 years of Jeff Van Grundy (with Cliff as an assistant), 4 years of Rick Adelman, 4+ years of Kevin McHale, 1 year of Bickerstaff (who was also on McHale's staff all years), and now 2 years of D'Antoni. That's exposure to a lot of different kinds of coaches.

Bio mentions that he was a big part of moving on from T-Mac and Ming, which would have been the last year of Adelman and then possibly the process that lead to McHale as well. That's some potentially useful experience given the team's current position in terms of players / cap / need for coaching change.

The list of good draft picks he was involved with sounds good as well. That's the kind of successful drafting any team could use.

As part of the Morey team he's going to be analytics friendly too.

[catch20two]

Gersson Rosas spoke at the MIT Sloan Sports Analytics Conference.

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[Braggins]

I'm 100% on the Rosas bandwagon at this point. He seems like exactly what the franchise needs, so I assume we are getting Kupchak or the Colangelo disciple.

[Diop]

Dunlop for GM!

[catch20two]

are you guys kicking the tires on Sam Hinkie?

If you’re using the idiom correctly then I’d answer this by saying that I don’t think Sam Hinkie is among our current candidates for the new GM job. But we are interviewing and showing heavy interest in another Daryl Morey disciple, Gersson Rosas.

[Juannydawkins]

are you guys kicking the tires on Sam Hinkie?

If you’re using the idiom correctly then I’d answer this by saying that I don’t think Sam Hinkie is among our current candidates for the new GM job. But we are interviewing and showing heavy interest in another Daryl Morey disciple, Gersson Rosas.

and if i were using the idiom to instead mean something it doesn't, then the answer would be a maybe - got it.

a hinkie rebuild would start with trading all of your veterans for future picks and expirings, using space to absorb contracts and take on picks - and maximizing the number of young players you take a run on until you find some exciting pieces.

so the core you guys keep depends on what type of rebuild you're doing. are you going to leverage your vets into more valuable and additional future assets, or are you tinkering with what you have?

someone moved this response from the "who is the hornet's core" thread - reason i asked is I am curious how your fan base feels about a full on rebuild. first year or so, you're the darling of the league because you give valuable pieces to champion contenders now. few years later you're stacked.

[catch20two]

are you guys kicking the tires on Sam Hinkie?

If you’re using the idiom correctly then I’d answer this by saying that I don’t think Sam Hinkie is among our current candidates for the new GM job. But we are interviewing and showing heavy interest in another Daryl Morey disciple, Gersson Rosas.

and if i were using the idiom to instead mean something it doesn't, then the answer would be a maybe - got it.

a hinkie rebuild would start with trading all of your veterans for future picks and expirings, using space to absorb contracts and take on picks - and maximizing the number of young players you take a run on until you find some exciting pieces.

so the core you guys keep depends on what type of rebuild you're doing. are you going to leverage your vets into more valuable and additional future assets, or are you tinkering with what you have?

someone moved this response from the "who is the hornet's core" thread - reason i asked is I am curious how your fan base feels about a full on rebuild. first year or so, you're the darling of the league because you give valuable pieces to champion contenders now. few years later you're stacked.

It’s give and take. A lot of us aren’t on board for a entire blowup in order rebuild but there’s more than a few of us that are.

The decision on what direction the team will go will be decided by who we hire as our new GM.

Personally I’d rather fire Clifford and move forward with the roster we have while looking to deal Dwight/Batum/Marv than blowing the team up to rebuild over the next 5+ years.

[Juannydawkins]

If you’re using the idiom correctly then I’d answer this by saying that I don’t think Sam Hinkie is among our current candidates for the new GM job. But we are interviewing and showing heavy interest in another Daryl Morey disciple, Gersson Rosas.

and if i were using the idiom to instead mean something it doesn't, then the answer would be a maybe - got it.

a hinkie rebuild would start with trading all of your veterans for future picks and expirings, using space to absorb contracts and take on picks - and maximizing the number of young players you take a run on until you find some exciting pieces.

so the core you guys keep depends on what type of rebuild you're doing. are you going to leverage your vets into more valuable and additional future assets, or are you tinkering with what you have?

someone moved this response from the "who is the hornet's core" thread - reason i asked is I am curious how your fan base feels about a full on rebuild. first year or so, you're the darling of the league because you give valuable pieces to champion contenders now. few years later you're stacked.

It’s give and take. A lot of us aren’t on board for a entire blowup in order rebuild but there’s more than a few of us that are.

The decision on what direction the team will go will be decided by who we hire as our new GM.

Personally I’d rather fire Clifford and move forward with the roster we have while looking to deal Dwight/Batum/Marv than blowing the team up to rebuild over the next 5+ years.

Sixers took 1 extra year and got 1 extra high impact player because of it (fultz) because both of Embiid and Simmons were not full strength until this year.

This is year 5 from the beginning of our tear down and we're beginning to compete. As a Truster of the Process, I was bummed that we had to have an extra year of waiting on both of our studs, of course. But along the way we found Robert Covington, TJ McConnel, Dario Saric - we had guys to root for along the way that have grown into our glue guys.

And we had high hopes for Nerlens, MCW, Okafor (they didn't pan out) but we gave ourselves so many shots at top picks - thru trades, swaps, etc. to find the guys we liked.

We missed on some - but Hinkie gave us so many chances - so many lottery tickets, that it seems we're getting lucky at this point (knock on wood for everyone's health).

10 win seasons blow. But I feel like they were worth it - and I bet Kemba and Howard would love a chance for a ring - and unless y'all are signing Lebron or MJ finds some sort of youth serum, i don't see it happening in CHA. I want Hinkie to get a job somewhere. I feel like you guys have better pieces for him to work with than Sactown for instance.

[catch20two]

and if i were using the idiom to instead mean something it doesn't, then the answer would be a maybe - got it.

a hinkie rebuild would start with trading all of your veterans for future picks and expirings, using space to absorb contracts and take on picks - and maximizing the number of young players you take a run on until you find some exciting pieces.

so the core you guys keep depends on what type of rebuild you're doing. are you going to leverage your vets into more valuable and additional future assets, or are you tinkering with what you have?

someone moved this response from the "who is the hornet's core" thread - reason i asked is I am curious how your fan base feels about a full on rebuild. first year or so, you're the darling of the league because you give valuable pieces to champion contenders now. few years later you're stacked.

It’s give and take. A lot of us aren’t on board for a entire blowup in order rebuild but there’s more than a few of us that are.

The decision on what direction the team will go will be decided by who we hire as our new GM.

Personally I’d rather fire Clifford and move forward with the roster we have while looking to deal Dwight/Batum/Marv than blowing the team up to rebuild over the next 5+ years.

Sixers took 1 extra year and got 1 extra high impact player because of it (fultz) because both of Embiid and Simmons were not full strength until this year.

This is year 5 from the beginning of our tear down and we're beginning to compete. As a Truster of the Process, I was bummed that we had to have an extra year of waiting on both of our studs, of course. But along the way we found Robert Covington, TJ McConnel, Dario Saric - we had guys to root for along the way that have grown into our glue guys.

And we had high hopes for Nerlens, MCW, Okafor (they didn't pan out) but we gave ourselves so many shots at top picks - thru trades, swaps, etc. to find the guys we liked.

We missed on some - but Hinkie gave us so many chances - so many lottery tickets, that it seems we're getting lucky at this point (knock on wood for everyone's health).

10 win seasons blow. But I feel like they were worth it - and I bet Kemba and Howard would love a chance for a ring - and unless y'all are signing Lebron or MJ finds some sort of youth serum, i don't see it happening in CHA. I want Hinkie to get a job somewhere. I feel like you guys have better pieces for him to work with than Sactown for instance.

Hinkie will get another chance in the NBA but I don’t think it’ll be in Charlotte. I’m sure Hinkie appreciates you vouching on his behalf. Honestly a blowup of trading Kemba might be the best option if the team plans to move forward with Clifford coaching and more of the same.

[Eoghan]

I'm very much in favor of a HInkie style full rebuild. I was in favor of this when we got Cho but between someone's mediocre drafting and MJ's impatience it got shortchanged. I know a lot of people think that would basically seal the deal to move the team to Seattle but Charlotte has already lost a franchise once, moving another that is owned by the GOAT would make the NBA look like complete buffoons. Coupled with not being willing to admit their mistake and being the Hornets instead of the worst brand ever, the Bobcats, I think Charlotte can survive a Process.

My utmost preference is in a selective rebuild though. Correctly identify weak vs strong drafts and tank in strong draft years, sort of try during weak draft years. If our scouting department can't figure that out then they shouldn't have jobs.

[Snidely FC]

a hinkie rebuild would start with trading all of your veterans for future picks and expirings, using space to absorb contracts and take on picks - and maximizing the number of young players you take a run on until you find some exciting pieces.

would be interested to hear how you think Hinkie would handle the Nic Batum $27 Million player option in '20-'21 contract?

[Juannydawkins]

a hinkie rebuild would start with trading all of your veterans for future picks and expirings, using space to absorb contracts and take on picks - and maximizing the number of young players you take a run on until you find some exciting pieces.

would be interested to hear how you think Hinkie would handle the Nic Batum $27 Million player option in '20-'21 contract?

I think we still had the amnesty clause at the beginning of Hinkie - but ideally MJ has like 40 mil lying around in laundered money that he can just give him to decline the option and go away.