Who should be the "core" of the team

[Rich4114]

The issue with this roster is partly because it’s full of mediocre aging vets all getting paid the same and partly because the whole is less than the sum of its parts. These pieces do not fit together optimally. Too many guys who can’t shoot/score. I feel like MKG, Zeller and Batum would be significantly better on different teams. What happens when you have a lot of guys on the court at once who can’t score, create or shoot? You get inefficient offense and when the team needs buckets late all you have to do is converge on that one guy who makes plays. We don’t need to trade these guys for expiring contracts or picks. We might be able to trade them for someone else of similar or even lesser talent but different talent that fits better with the rest of the talent.

I like MKG, but he’s only effective on a team who has elite shooters or scorers. Zeller fills a particular role, but if you need scoring or play making from that position you’ll never get it from him. It’s fine if you have other playmakers on the court. But line him up next to MKG and then what? Paint and lanes become clogged, can’t spread the floor, defenders can cheat, etc.

The new GM needs to find a way to swap some of the pieces we have now for different pieces. The talent can be similar or lesser and it could have a positive impact on the end results of our games.

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

The issue with this roster is partly because it’s full of mediocre aging vets all getting paid the same and partly because the whole is less than the sum of its parts. These pieces do not fit together optimally. Too many guys who can’t shoot/score. I feel like MKG, Zeller and Batum would be significantly better on different teams. What happens when you have a lot of guys on the court at once who can’t score, create or shoot? You get inefficient offense and when the team needs buckets late all you have to do is converge on that one guy who makes plays. We don’t need to trade these guys for expiring contracts or picks. We might be able to trade them for someone else of similar or even lesser talent but different talent that fits better with the rest of the talent.

I like MKG, but he’s only effective on a team who has elite shooters or scorers. Zeller fills a particular role, but if you need scoring or play making from that position you’ll never get it from him. It’s fine if you have other playmakers on the court. But line him up next to MKG and then what? Paint and lanes become clogged, can’t spread the floor, defenders can cheat, etc.

The new GM needs to find a way to swap some of the pieces we have now for different pieces. The talent can be similar or lesser and it could have a positive impact on the end results of our games.

All of this is 100% on the money. The only thing I might add is that just changing guys roles might make a positive impact too. I think that it's time for Marv to come off the bench for example.

[catch20two]

when the team needs buckets late all you have to do is converge on that one guy who makes plays.

A lot of that could be fixed by having a coach that know better than to allow his team to play ISO ball at the end of games. I watch Portland games where they have Lillard and McCollum on the floor and they still draw up plays during crunch time to get them easier looks. Same with Toronto with Derozan and Lowry. Clifford is just a bad coach that’s misusing the little bit of decent talent we do have. There’s no way we shouldn’t have made the playoffs or had a better fighting chance with our roster but we were doomed by Clifford’s coaching time after time each game.

[stinger14]

Kemba - keep him unless you get an offer you can't refuse

Monk - only 19 with plenty of talent, get a real coach and see how he develops

Bacon - I think he has potential to be a good player, and contribute as a bench player at worst

Cody - prefer to keep him, but if the right offer comes along, he becomes expendable, plays well with Kemba

Graham - keep him as a depth guy, he isn't costing much cap space, and can fill in adequately if rotation guys are injured

Lamb - I think he has more to offer, need a Coach who can bring it out, keep him and see if he reaches potential

Everybody else should be tradeable.

Most important, find a Coach.

[Diop]

Dante Exum should be part of the Core

Kemba
Exum
Lamb
Frank
Zeller

Exum plays point alongside Monk on the bench.

[catch20two]

Dante Exum should be part of the Core

Kemba
Exum
Lamb
Frank
Zeller

Exum plays point alongside Monk on the bench.

I wouldn’t mind taking a chance aka flyer on him as a backup but I wouldn’t have a lot of confidence in him tapping into that potential he once had. Most of his issues start with being injury prone but one would imagine that maturity and watching from the sidelines would help him become more cerebral player with his size a la Shaun Livingston.

[Diop]

Dante Exum should be part of the Core

Kemba
Exum
Lamb
Frank
Zeller

Exum plays point alongside Monk on the bench.

I wouldn’t mind taking a chance aka flyer on him as a backup but I wouldn’t have a lot of confidence in him tapping into that potential he once had. Most of his issues start with being injury prone but one would imagine that maturity and watching from the sidelines would help him become more cerebral player with his size a la Shaun Livingston.

that's the thing, Jazz fans are saying he still has that speed and athleticism. They are nervous he will be taken off their hands.

[Joest2003]

We don't even have a core. We need to blow this thing to pieces and the only players on our current roster I would keep is Kemba Cody Monk and Lamb. I'll even give Bacon the benefit of the doubt because hes a rookie and showing some good signs of promise. Everyone else from Batum cliff and the towel boy gotta go

[Diop]

Dante Exum should be part of the Core

Kemba
Exum
Lamb
Frank
Zeller

Exum plays point alongside Monk on the bench.

I wouldn’t mind taking a chance aka flyer on him as a backup but I wouldn’t have a lot of confidence in him tapping into that potential he once had. Most of his issues start with being injury prone but one would imagine that maturity and watching from the sidelines would help him become more cerebral player with his size a la Shaun Livingston.

Watch on YouTube

its only against Memphis but you get a glimpse of his athleticism and smoothness. Utah are going to have some tough decisions, it would be nice if we could steal him away.

[springcadre]

I think the FO should have an honest discussion with Kemba. The route they’ve gone thus far has put them in the worst position an NBA team can be in, a la the Pistons, bogged down by massive contracts for scrap heap talent. Tell Kemba they plan to blow it up and rebuild around young talent, either he can remain on the team and suffer through the next few years or request a trade.

Front office won’t get equal value back given Kemba is a great player on an expiring value deal, and not a lot of teams need PGs.

Burn it all down for assets with the exception of Monk and Bacon. Lamb is a nice young player but won’t fit the timeline, try to clear cap to take on bad contracts and assets while the young guys develop.

[catch20two]

Blowing up this team would be a mistake if they don’t try to see what they can get out of this group under a new head coach and a few tweaks.

Next year’s draft class isn’t even that promising to tank for and it’s very possible Silver may change the draft system rules within the next couple years.

[Liver_Pooty]

Its not a coincidence that Charlotte and Detroit have on paper solid ass teams with basically the same head coach. Just saying.

[Liver_Pooty]

Im the biggest Zeller fan boy on here and I wouldn't consider him a core piece anymore. Being out all the time due to knee flare ups or soreness is annoying. Pisses me off, actually.

[Diop]

Im the biggest Zeller fan boy on here and I wouldn't consider him a core piece anymore. Being out all the time due to knee flare ups or soreness is annoying. Pisses me off, actually.

I agree, love what he brings, but he brings nothing from the IL