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Re: Would You Like to see This Starting Lineup? 

Post#21 » by MasterIchiro » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:05 am

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Aliasego wrote:I don’t get to see Charlotte play that often. Why has Kaminsky completely fallen out of the rotation? I know he’s not a star, but I thought he’d still be getting steady minutes.


It's strange that he doesn't get any minutes. My best guess is he hasn't shown anything in practice to warrant them. I personally thought he was coming along last season and was developing some post moves like Hawes used to have. It may also be a bad combination of Frank and Monk since they have different play styles.

There’s a part of me that would rather see Kaminsky instead of Hernangomez at backup C at the moment.


Hernangomez is a fringe NBA player imo. Frank hit 38% last year. JB needs to do a 180 on that swap. Frank has to work though.
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Re: Would You Like to see This Starting Lineup? 

Post#22 » by Eoghan » Fri Oct 26, 2018 12:36 am

Frank makes Willy look fleet of feet so that's my guess why he's at the end of the bench. He can't beat anybody off the dribble or stay in front of anyone on defense.
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Re: Would You Like to see This Starting Lineup? 

Post#23 » by Bassman » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:05 am

Now we’re seeing the manifestation of everything I was speaking of before the draft and season. As much as I love Kemba, we can’t do enough with the assets we have to deal and help him. If we trade Kemba, we might have a slightly better chance of improving but only if we can also dump a fat anchor contract and get a young quality player in return. What if that player was a true impact SG to pair with Monk at the 1? I’d roll those dice:

Monk
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Bridges
MKG
Cody or Willy

In any case I would insert Miles sooner rather than later. He will keep growing in his game, and bring all that energy and impact we need on the starting group. Also believe he would help our rebounding deficit from the 3 spot.
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Re: Would You Like to see This Starting Lineup? 

Post#24 » by Braggins » Fri Oct 26, 2018 9:58 am

I don't think there are many viable options for changing the starting lineup other than starting either Miles/MKG over Batum/Marvin. I'm not crazy about MKG/Cody starting together, but it might be necessary if Miles isn't up to the task yet. Starting Monk just is not a good idea at this point and his current role is perfect for him.

I think Miles over Marv is definitely ideal if possible. Miles might be streakier from 3 as a rookie than Marv, but he can definitely hit shots and make defenses respect him and he is infinitely more dangerous than Marv when attacking closeouts and in advantaged situations on the weak side. Having Miles play most of his minutes with Kemba and the starters might actually make things more simple for him than trying to deal with more pressure and a more complex role with the 2nd unit.

Kemba/Graham/Parker
Lamb/Monk
Batum/MKG/Bacon
Miles/Marv/Frank
Cody/Willy/Biz

Playing Marvin off the bench also makes it easier to find him minutes at center, which could reduce Willy's minutes without giving them to Frank or Biz. Our bench core would be Monk/MKG/Marv + whatever matchups dictate.
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Re: Would You Like to see This Starting Lineup? 

Post#25 » by BigSlam » Fri Oct 26, 2018 1:21 pm

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Re: Would You Like to see This Starting Lineup? 

Post#26 » by amcoolio » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:33 pm

BigSlam wrote:Felton
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No way, it should be Brevin Knight. Felton is a chucker who can't pass
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Re: Would You Like to see This Starting Lineup? 

Post#27 » by amcoolio » Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:39 pm

The Ringer was saying today that unless you can shoot lights out there's currently no place for the 7 footed slow moving center in this new NBA. Luckily, we have 4 slow footed centers because we are the freakin Hornets baby! Maybe we should just make MKG the 5 since he can at least cut and play defense and see how it works. Rich Cho has killed us with his inability to see what the future NBA would look like.

Maybe we can rid ourselves of Zeller and Frank to a team still playing old school
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Re: Would You Like to see This Starting Lineup? 

Post#28 » by JDR720 » Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:46 pm

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It's strange that he doesn't get any minutes. My best guess is he hasn't shown anything in practice to warrant them. I personally thought he was coming along last season and was developing some post moves like Hawes used to have. It may also be a bad combination of Frank and Monk since they have different play styles.

There’s a part of me that would rather see Kaminsky instead of Hernangomez at backup C at the moment.


Hernangomez is a fringe NBA player imo. Frank hit 38% last year. JB needs to do a 180 on that swap. Frank has to work though.

Willy is hitting 50% this year ;)
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Re: Would You Like to see This Starting Lineup? 

Post#29 » by yosemiteben » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:21 pm

The "Cody is a slow 5" take is bizarre to me. I think he's at least a top 5 starting center when it comes to speed and agility.
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Re: Would You Like to see This Starting Lineup? 

Post#30 » by HornetJail » Fri Oct 26, 2018 5:55 pm

Cody/MKG/Batum/Lamb/Kemba
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Re: Would You Like to see This Starting Lineup? 

Post#31 » by amcoolio » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:18 pm

yosemiteben wrote:The "Cody is a slow 5" take is bizarre to me. I think he's at least a top 5 starting center when it comes to speed and agility.


Maybe in the past. He looks slow this season. He hasn't improved at all also. I'll give it 10 more games but I don't see it changing. I think Cody is overrated on this board. His pick and roll game isn't as strong as its needs to be in an average NBA offense. He doesn't want to shoot from deep, and gets blocked at the rim if he gets the ball and isn't picking and rolling. I mean Jabari Parker blocked him. Jabari freaking Parker! So what use is he?
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Re: Would You Like to see This Starting Lineup? 

Post#32 » by predators » Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:47 pm

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yosemiteben wrote:The "Cody is a slow 5" take is bizarre to me. I think he's at least a top 5 starting center when it comes to speed and agility.


Maybe in the past. He looks slow this season. He hasn't improved at all also. I'll give it 10 more games but I don't see it changing. I think Cody is overrated on this board. His pick and roll game isn't as strong as its needs to be in an average NBA offense. He doesn't want to shoot from deep, and gets blocked at the rim if he gets the ball and isn't picking and rolling. I mean Jabari Parker blocked him. Jabari freaking Parker! So what use is he?


Cody has short arms for his size so he has always gotten dominated at the rim. I'm just disappointed he never developed a serviceable corner 3 so he could be more than a garbage man on offense.

We have a t-rex arm team in general. Batum/MKG/BIZ are the only long players for their position. (Maybe lamb too).
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Re: Would You Like to see This Starting Lineup? 

Post#33 » by amcoolio » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:15 pm

Cody is averaging 8 and 6 with no steals or blocks. He's a useful energy big in short spurts, nothing more.

MKG can switch and I feel more comfortable with MKG guarding Brook Lopez or Jokic than Zeller. Now if we go against a Javale McGee or Dwight Howard, then Cody or Biz can play.
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Re: Would You Like to see This Starting Lineup? 

Post#34 » by BigSlam » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:22 pm

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Re: Would You Like to see This Starting Lineup? 

Post#35 » by catch20two » Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:26 pm

yosemiteben wrote:The "Cody is a slow 5" take is bizarre to me. I think he's at least a top 5 starting center when it comes to speed and agility.

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Re: Would You Like to see This Starting Lineup? 

Post#36 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Fri Oct 26, 2018 8:16 pm

This is post-knee injury Cody. We will have to see what that does to his speed across a full season.
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Re: Would You Like to see This Starting Lineup? 

Post#37 » by DY_nasty » Fri Oct 26, 2018 10:36 pm

Cody put on weight. He can hold his ground better but he is absolutely not the same moving laterally. He was never quick off of his feet before but he's even more glued to the ground now.

Team needs a reliable help defender and he just ain't that kind of guy.
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Re: Would You Like to see This Starting Lineup? 

Post#38 » by UNCNYC » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:30 am

Felton
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Marvin
May
Hansborough
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These are who I want with our picks in order



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Post#39 » by UNCNYC » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:34 am

and marcus paige off da bench
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Re: Would You Like to see This Starting Lineup? 

Post#40 » by Braggins » Sat Oct 27, 2018 10:58 am

Between Marvin, Willy, and Frank, who is the best in the following categories; rim protection, 3 point shooting, rebounding, and mobility?

Seems like Marvin is probably the best in rim protection (his standing reach is 2" higher than Zeller), shooting, and mobility, with WHG the best rebounder. I think I've talked myself into Marv coming off the bench as our primary backup center (still splitting between 4/5). It makes the most sense if the team is trying to play fast and it also helps hide his age by reducing his minutes and playing him at the slowest position.

Marv seems like a better option in most scenarios where we want shooting from the center position and Biz is our rebounding + rebounding specialist garbage man. It honestly doesn't feel like Frank or WHG really fit what the team is trying to do much at all. Willy is probably worth keeping around for depth and to develop, but it would be nice if there was any way to flip Frank/Bacon for another decent backup wing. Someone who could function as a facilitator would be ideal, but a simple 3&D guy would be perfectly fine.

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