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Re: GT charlotte vs bulls 10/26 7PM EST 

Post#101 » by BigSlam » Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:47 am

MasterIchiro wrote:There's some mechanism in your reading comprehension that blinds you to the content of a post, because you're obsessed with highlighting flaws, and never hesitate to call someone's idea dumb or weird. A moderator who describes comments as dumb or weird. Hahaha

Says the guy who insists on using “perennial 6th man” when referencing Kenna and beats things to death.

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Re: GT charlotte vs bulls 10/26 7PM EST 

Post#102 » by 316Hornets » Sat Oct 27, 2018 11:56 am

Lamb's role seems to have changed with Borrego. He doesn't get many plays called for him at all, but he does create space for Kemba to work. In fact, all of our guys starting do that. Lamb is also expending more energy on defense and getting rebounds, steals at higher rates. It's not a bad role for him and we'll probably be able to resign him if that's all he does.
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Re: GT charlotte vs bulls 10/26 7PM EST 

Post#103 » by yosemiteben » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:28 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:There's some mechanism in your reading comprehension that blinds you to the content of a post, because you're obsessed with highlighting flaws, and never hesitate to call someone's idea dumb or weird.

There is a ton of stupid **** that I don't comment on here.

It just felt weird to pat us on the back for not struggling with a team we just lost to. That loss Wednesday was **** embarrassing for me and winning yesterday didn't fully put it out of my mind. I'm not ready to call this team one that doesn't struggle against teams that it's supposed to be able to beat.
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Re: GT charlotte vs bulls 10/26 7PM EST 

Post#104 » by tondi123 » Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:28 pm

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Emhoward wrote:Through the first 6 games, MKG has, imo, been our second best player. I'm not sure what that says about us.

It says that MKG is a good player but Clifford was using him wrong. We all believed that MKG should’ve saw some extensive minutes at PF but Clifford didn’t believe in flexible lineups.


That's true but how many saw MKGs future in the league being a semi dominant second team small ball 5? That's genius coaching right there.
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Re: GT charlotte vs bulls 10/26 7PM EST 

Post#105 » by MasterIchiro » Sat Oct 27, 2018 1:55 pm

BigSlam wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:There's some mechanism in your reading comprehension that blinds you to the content of a post, because you're obsessed with highlighting flaws, and never hesitate to call someone's idea dumb or weird. A moderator who describes comments as dumb or weird. Hahaha

Says the guy who insists on using “perennial 6th man” when referencing Kenna and beats things to death.

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Total false equivalency.

#1 I'm not a mod. Mods should model appropriate language and flesh out arguments without resorting to labels like dumb and weird.

#2 I never said anyone is dumb or weird for labelling Kemba a 6th man. If you feel that way, so be it.
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Re: GT charlotte vs bulls 10/26 7PM EST 

Post#106 » by MasterIchiro » Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:00 pm

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MasterIchiro wrote:There's some mechanism in your reading comprehension that blinds you to the content of a post, because you're obsessed with highlighting flaws, and never hesitate to call someone's idea dumb or weird.

There is a ton of stupid **** that I don't comment on here.

It just felt weird to pat us on the back for not struggling with a team we just lost to. That loss Wednesday was **** embarrassing for me and winning yesterday didn't fully put it out of my mind. I'm not ready to call this team one that doesn't struggle against teams that it's supposed to be able to beat.


No Clifford team was gonna beat a bottom feeder by 30. When bench guys saw the 4th it was when we were getting blown out. Twice now it's been the other way around. I know it's early and maybe I'm misremembering, but I feel encouraged how the team showed some pride and bounced back against these lowlife Bulls. I think the system is showing signs of early success. I was an apologist for Clifford in the past. But now I see that his command of the team's talent was highly questionable. It's just an opinion but I feel more good than bad.
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Re: GT charlotte vs bulls 10/26 7PM EST 

Post#107 » by yosemiteben » Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:17 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:No Clifford team was gonna beat a bottom feeder by 30. When bench guys saw the 4th it was when we were getting blown out.

This happened in April: https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201804060ORL.html

This game also comes to mind as a relevant example since it was against the Bulls: https://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201511030CHO.html

MasterIchiro wrote:I know it's early and maybe I'm misremembering, but I feel encouraged how the team showed some pride and bounced back against these lowlife Bulls.

I'm not encouraged because we were playing a bad team that was also missing two / three starters (Dunn, Portis, Markkanen) and choosing not to play a starting calibre center (RoLo). This was likely by far the worst team we will play this season. That's why it was a complete embarrassment to lose to them.

I agree it's early, but my opinion was set back by that game and there's some work to do before I'm going to feel confident in this team.
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Re: GT charlotte vs bulls 10/26 7PM EST 

Post#108 » by 316Hornets » Sat Oct 27, 2018 2:42 pm

We definitely beat up on some tanking teams last season. This team has not shown an ability to consistently beat the top teams though. In fact, we did horrible last year against them.

The game tonight will be a true test, even better if Embiid plays. We went 0-4 against Philly last season.
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Re: GT charlotte vs bulls 10/26 7PM EST 

Post#109 » by fatlever » Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:17 pm

It will take a long time before I trust this team to win a close game. We've shown repeatedly over the past few seasons that we struggle and close games. Already this season we've shown an inability to stop the other team and the last portion of a game as well as our own and ability to generate offense outside of KW. Plus we've already seen several teams have success running multiple Defenders at KW and Blitzen him off of pics in order to get the ball out of his hands. We got a long way to go still before we exercise our demons. Somebody else on this team has to step up as a reliable second option in crunch time. I'm not sure that player exist on our roster this season.

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Re: GT charlotte vs bulls 10/26 7PM EST 

Post#110 » by fatlever » Sat Oct 27, 2018 4:19 pm

The flip side to this is it we now have several games of evidence showing that when KW is hitting 3s this team becomes a scoring juggernaut. And capable of opening a big lead up on just about any team outside of maybe the top six to eight teams in the league.

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Re: GT charlotte vs bulls 10/26 7PM EST 

Post#111 » by LofJ » Sat Oct 27, 2018 5:08 pm

fatlever wrote:It will take a long time before I trust this team to win a close game. We've shown repeatedly over the past few seasons that we struggle and close games. Already this season we've shown an inability to stop the other team and the last portion of a game as well as our own and ability to generate offense outside of KW. Plus we've already seen several teams have success running multiple Defenders at KW and Blitzen him off of pics in order to get the ball out of his hands. We got a long way to go still before we exercise our demons. Somebody else on this team has to step up as a reliable second option in crunch time. I'm not sure that player exist on our roster this season.

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Monk has what it takes to step up in close games, but I haven't seen it from anyone else.
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Re: GT charlotte vs bulls 10/26 7PM EST 

Post#112 » by DY_nasty » Sat Oct 27, 2018 6:13 pm

fatlever wrote:The flip side to this is it we now have several games of evidence showing that when KW is hitting 3s this team becomes a scoring juggernaut. And capable of opening a big lead up on just about any team outside of maybe the top six to eight teams in the league.

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the issue for the past three years or so has been keeping defenses from putting a whole wall on him

kemba's one of the best at splitting double teams but even then its hard to rely on him for everything especially while closing out games.

we're really gonna need to address it.... we don't even need a dominant post scorer or anything but guys have got to be a part of the process outside of waiting for opportunities and hoping for the best while out of rhythm
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Re: GT charlotte vs bulls 10/26 7PM EST 

Post#113 » by fatlever » Sat Oct 27, 2018 7:31 pm

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fatlever wrote:It will take a long time before I trust this team to win a close game. We've shown repeatedly over the past few seasons that we struggle and close games. Already this season we've shown an inability to stop the other team and the last portion of a game as well as our own and ability to generate offense outside of KW. Plus we've already seen several teams have success running multiple Defenders at KW and Blitzen him off of pics in order to get the ball out of his hands. We got a long way to go still before we exercise our demons. Somebody else on this team has to step up as a reliable second option in crunch time. I'm not sure that player exist on our roster this season.

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Monk has what it takes to step up in close games, but I haven't seen it from anyone else.
The talent, the tools, and the confidence are there with Monk. However he has yet to prove that he is a reliable second option. It might be another year or two before Monk comes that consistent scoring second threat that is needed next to Kemba.

On another note, I feel like we need someone with size who can get Buckets late in a game. I'm not necessarily talking about a low-post type but someone who can drive or bully their way to the basket. Miles could be that person in another year or two.

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