Rumor - We Want Drummond

[Soul Rebel]

On the one hand, he fixes our biggest areas of need (as has been pointed out already) - rebounding, rim protection a presence in the paint. I think he makes us a strong team in the East if he is added without giving up our young guns. I think a rotation of Graham-Monk-Bridges-PJ-Drummond is pretty talented.... very young and a starting 5 that will only continue to grow together.

However, two issues that scare me:

Is this the Al Jefferson trade all over again - helps in some areas, while hurting us in others and we have his contract for the next 5 years.

Did we make big payday mistakes in the past with Richardson, Batum, MKG, Tyrus, etc. and it's history repeating itself.

I honestly have a hard time standing on either side of the argument. I just want to ride out 2019-20 with what we have sans an upswing trade off of spare parts (Rozier, Marvin, MKG, Zeller, Biyombo).

But then we see how great this team has performed thus far and the biggest frustration being how we are getting our lunch taken every game inside. We are god awful in the paint and getting bullied night in and night out. Horrible at rebounding and keeping opposing offenses guessing of how to attack us.

If only there was a talented young big man available that fixes these issues....

[Diop]

More Danny Fortson than Rodman for me.

[Bassman]

I’ve liked Drummond for what he is and don’t pretend he’s something he’s not. He would help us a lot, but only if it didn’t cost us a key young player. In reality that’s not going to happen. We’d all deal Batum plus a pick in a heartbeat (not this year’s pick or lottery protected) but why would Detroit? Rozier plus stuff....sure, but why for Detroit?

I think they’d want Graham (no way), then either Miles or PJ plus player/pick combo to make the $ work. I don’t deal Miles or PJ...just too much potential there. So Batum plus Monk? Rozier plus ... ?

Must admit I’m a bit concerned about PJ and might include him in a deal with Batum shipped out. Is he a future star? Not to my eyes. Good versatile player who can shoot? Sure. Undersized PF who struggles to rebound at this level? Maybe...too soon to be sure. I like him, a lot. But just saying...I’d be shocked to get Drummond for our junk (Batum) or our pricey plan B (Rozier), even with a future pick.

[Chapelchilla]

I am hesitant to pay big $ to a Center at this point. But, he is mostly good and would fix some of our interior issues. I think he actually pairs well with PJ and Miles as they can be more outside the paint 3 pt shooters and slashers with him in the middle. But, no way I would give up high picks or our best young talent. Zeller, Marv, Monk I would do and they might too as it gives them a Blake back up on an expiring, a replacement for Drummond who is low drama and a young guy who still has "potential". Take it or leave it.

[Robot Rock]

On the one hand, he fixes our biggest areas of need (as has been pointed out already) - rebounding, rim protection a presence in the paint. I think he makes us a strong team in the East if he is added without giving up our young guns. I think a rotation of Graham-Monk-Bridges-PJ-Drummond is pretty talented.... very young and a starting 5 that will only continue to grow together.

However, two issues that scare me:

Is this the Al Jefferson trade all over again - helps in some areas, while hurting us in others and we have his contract for the next 5 years.

Al Jefferson was a free-agent signing, not a trade. Right?

[Radu_Hornets]

I am hesitant to pay big $ to a Center at this point. But, he is mostly good and would fix some of our interior issues. I think he actually pairs well with PJ and Miles as they can be more outside the paint 3 pt shooters and slashers with him in the middle. But, no way I would give up high picks or our best young talent. Zeller, Marv, Monk I would do and they might too as it gives them a Blake back up on an expiring, a replacement for Drummond who is low drama and a young guy who still has "potential". Take it or leave it.

You’re concerned about a rookie that scored a NBA record 7 threes in his nba day view ? He already proves to have good post moves. He just need to adjust to the nba now.

[Radu_Hornets]

I am hesitant to pay big $ to a Center at this point. But, he is mostly good and would fix some of our interior issues. I think he actually pairs well with PJ and Miles as they can be more outside the paint 3 pt shooters and slashers with him in the middle. But, no way I would give up high picks or our best young talent. Zeller, Marv, Monk I would do and they might too as it gives them a Blake back up on an expiring, a replacement for Drummond who is low drama and a young guy who still has "potential". Take it or leave it.

You’re concerned about a rookie that scored a NBA record 7 threes in his nba day view ? He already proves to have good post moves.
He just need to adjust to the nba now.

[Chapelchilla]

I am hesitant to pay big $ to a Center at this point. But, he is mostly good and would fix some of our interior issues. I think he actually pairs well with PJ and Miles as they can be more outside the paint 3 pt shooters and slashers with him in the middle. But, no way I would give up high picks or our best young talent. Zeller, Marv, Monk I would do and they might too as it gives them a Blake back up on an expiring, a replacement for Drummond who is low drama and a young guy who still has "potential". Take it or leave it.

You’re concerned about a rookie that scored a NBA record 7 threes in his nba day view ? He already proves to have good post moves.
He just need to adjust to the nba now.

I think you may have misinterpreted what I wrote. I am not at all concerned about PJ being good, he, Graham and Miles are the "no way I would give up our best young talent". I also said he would fit well with Drummond BECAUSE he can go outside and hit 3 pters while Andre stays in the paint.

[Diop]

I am hesitant to pay big $ to a Center at this point. But, he is mostly good and would fix some of our interior issues. I think he actually pairs well with PJ and Miles as they can be more outside the paint 3 pt shooters and slashers with him in the middle. But, no way I would give up high picks or our best young talent. Zeller, Marv, Monk I would do and they might too as it gives them a Blake back up on an expiring, a replacement for Drummond who is low drama and a young guy who still has "potential". Take it or leave it.

You’re concerned about a rookie that scored a NBA record 7 threes in his nba day view ? He already proves to have good post moves.
He just need to adjust to the nba now.

I think you may have misinterpreted what I wrote. I am not at all concerned about PJ being good, he, Graham and Miles are the "no way I would give up our best young talent". I also said he would fit well with Drummond BECAUSE he can go outside and hit 3 pters while Andre stays in the paint.

i think he meant to quote bassman

Must admit I’m a bit concerned about PJ and might include him in a deal with Batum shipped out. Is he a future star? Not to my eyes. Good versatile player who can shoot? Sure. Undersized PF who struggles to rebound at this level? Maybe...too soon to be sure. I like him, a lot. But just saying...I’d be shocked to get Drummond for our junk (Batum) or our pricey plan B (Rozier), even with a future pick.

[Braggins]

Yes, he brings amazing rebounding to a team that needs it. He can't switch on anything, he takes absurd shots on a whim, he is easily flustered in games, and he's a turnover machine. You'd be banking on a huge shift in what he brings to the table and the money not making him complacent as well.

individual rebounding #s are massively overrated stat. pistons are an awful rebounding team, so his amazing #s are meaningless to team #s.

Yep. I've made my opinions on Drummond clear in the past. I'm still generally a hard no, assuming they'd have to give up value for him.

Having said that, I'd trade Rozier and a 2nd for him because I also think Rozier is not good and getting out of his contract while opening up more minutes for Graham and Monk to develop would be a plus.

[DY_nasty]

drummond is fake stats

[MasterIchiro]

It's really time for the Pistons to firesale. They can't beat a rebuilding team with all new starters playing together for the first time. Not sure what they can get for an expiring big looking for a max contract at a time when most teams have cheaper options at center. And Blake's contract is hard to move. But they need to get worse and draft higher. That's the benefit of selling Drummond and Blake for pennies on the dollar. They need to move up in the draft.

[Snidely FC]

did anybody hear the bit from Ashley last night saying that Drummond changes his jersey four times a game - fresh kit every quarter - because he thinks sweat inhibits his performance? wow

[MasterIchiro]

Wade Boggs used to eat chicken before every game as a superstition. He was the greatest contact hitter of his generation, despite pitchers being juiced on steroids most of his career, including teammate Roger Clemens.