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GT: Game #2 - Charlotte Vs Oklahoma (Dec 26th)

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Re: GT: Game #2 - Charlotte Vs Oklahoma (Dec 26th) 

Post#281 » by luciano-davidwesley » Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:16 am

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MasterIchiro wrote:I don't think anyone said you don't need a center but somehow a vocal contingent here has framed the narrative.

You have an extremely short and also selective memory.

We were subjected to weeks and weeks of reading you pontificate on how an asset like a high draft pick or cap space should never, ever be used on a big and that unless they were Embidd or Jokic there was no place for traditional bigs in today’s NBA.

You soapboxed about how easy it is to just sign low level FA big, plug and play them as our 5 and not miss a beat.

So, where are all these ready to play FA bugs we can sign??

You totally neglected the fact that by virtue of the position and it’s needs the talent pool for bigs is significantly more shallow than it is for wings and that’s it’s actually wings that are a dime a dozen - not bigs.

It would appear that in your world it’s much, much more important for you to tell yourself that you are never wrong than it is to acknowledge that other people are right.

But you’ll claim to know what Mitch is thinking (you don’t, BTW) and how you are in lockstep with the FO (you aren’t, BTW) and how this is al the fault of Cho.

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Re: GT: Game #2 - Charlotte Vs Oklahoma (Dec 26th) 

Post#282 » by JMAC3 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:28 pm

BigSlam wrote:So, where are all these ready to play FA bugs we can sign??


I will say it would have been far easier to sign a big in the offseason than it is right now with most teams sporting full rosters. With guys like Whiteside, McGee, Portis, Len and Noel all signed for peanuts on short term deals or in McGee case given away.

Another thing is Biz has shown in the past he can be a serviceable spot start guy, back up center or even a third center who can be called upon last minute. To me that has value, not a ton of guys who have the talent to do this or are humble enough to take on a role like this without complaining.

That said losing Zeller hurts, most teams would be hurting for center depth if they lost their starting center... some for a starter and nearly all for a solid backup (would be third string if healthy). The fact that after Zeller got hurt we do not have depth is not something we would be alone in struggling with.

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You totally neglected the fact that by virtue of the position and it’s needs the talent pool for bigs is significantly more shallow than it is for wings and that’s it’s actually wings that are a dime a dozen - not bigs.




My thought process here is opposite of your thinking, as I have stated before Quality Impact Bigs are hard to come by because there are only a true handful of these guys. Which means if you have one, you do have a massive advantage most nights, but it is hard to find these guys because as you have stated percentage of a big actually turning into this guy is very very low and depth is poor in the league at center. Meaning most nights you are playing an average or slighly above average or slightly below average center which makes playing an average center yourself not that much of a difference on most nights.

Whereas, the depth at wings in the NBA is very large and more easily available to find above average talent to great talent, which means if you have a slightly below average starter on the wing lets say Dwayne Bacon or Josh Okogie for example then you are going to be at a massive disadvantage nearly every night vs the KDs, Brons Lukas, Mitchells, Butlers, Tatums, etc etc etc

Point being if I could guarantee myself Embiid or Jokic I would love it, but the fact is those guys are so rare that you are really really shooting a low percentage on trying to find those guys so you are going to more than likely spend your free agent money or high draft assets to draft or sign guys like Wendell Carter Jr or Jacob Poetl or Mo Bamba or Nerlens Noels, who are decent players, but most likely will underachieve their respective draft slots. And I could go on and on about guys who sucked as bigs as could other posters do the same about wings... however it does not change the fact that there is a severe lack of talent/way to acquire talent at the center position.
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Re: GT: Game #2 - Charlotte Vs Oklahoma (Dec 26th) 

Post#283 » by BigSlam » Tue Dec 29, 2020 7:43 pm

JMAC3 wrote:My thought process here is opposite of your thinking...

That makes sense when you factor in posting under two accounts.


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Re: GT: Game #2 - Charlotte Vs Oklahoma (Dec 26th) 

Post#284 » by DY_nasty » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:36 pm

oh wow lol
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Re: GT: Game #2 - Charlotte Vs Oklahoma (Dec 26th) 

Post#285 » by Liver_Pooty » Tue Dec 29, 2020 8:47 pm

DY_nasty wrote:oh wow lol


Lol. That escalated quickly.
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
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Re: GT: Game #2 - Charlotte Vs Oklahoma (Dec 26th) 

Post#286 » by JMAC3 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 9:00 pm

BigSlam wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:My thought process here is opposite of your thinking...

That makes sense when you factor in posting under two accounts.


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Not sure what you are implying? That me and you are posting from two different accounts? Or that I have two accounts?

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Re: GT: Game #2 - Charlotte Vs Oklahoma (Dec 26th) 

Post#287 » by SWedd523 » Tue Dec 29, 2020 10:26 pm

BigSlam wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:My thought process here is opposite of your thinking...

That makes sense when you factor in posting under two accounts.


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