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Re: Kemba's handshake raises questions for some 

Post#101 » by BobsBuddy » Sun Jun 26, 2011 9:57 pm

:lol: :lol: :lol: PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD DOWN NOW. WHO GIVES A FLIP ABOUT HOW HE SHAKES HANDS! ITS HOW HE PRODUCES FOR US ON THE COURT. IF HE DOESN'T HANDLE HIMSELF OFF THE COURT IN A PROFESSIONAL MANNER , BELEIVE ME MJ,CHO AND THE BOBCATS ORGANIZATION WILL HANDLE IT,NOT US.
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Re: Kemba's handshake raises questions for some 

Post#102 » by doc.end » Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:02 pm

Kemba2Hendo wrote:
From Yardbarker.com

Last night (two nights ago now) the Charlotte Bobcats selected UConn star point guard Kemba Walker with the #9 pick.

After his name was announced Walker embraced everyone at his table and also performed some type of gang-style handshake.

Is this something the Bobcats need to worry about, or is it a harmless handshake among friends?

These questions need to be raised when a team is going to invest millions into a young man coming out of college.


What is your opinion on this little video?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsMrWEE9hbw&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

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The thinking behind this article is on the same level with the attack on deaf people birthday party because they supposedly used gang signals (sadly, true story).
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Re: Dj Augustin and Kemba Walker 

Post#103 » by captaincrunk » Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:09 pm

ohara wrote:Have to rethink this a bit. With DJ's history of not coping well with competition, be it from Ray or even Flip, the strong competition he will be getting from Kemba may just cause him to regress in a very public way. If we are able to move him quickly for a decent player and a 2012 1st, it might be best to move quickly rather than waiting. If he withers under the pressure of Kemba and loses his starting role, and starts playing like crap and sulking, his value only plummets. Gotta think the FO may not say anything on it publicly, but they may very well entertain trading DJ before the season even starts. I really like DJ, but I dont see him surviving the assault of swag and performance I think will come from Kemba. That kid is on a mission.

Well before he wasn't the starter, he was being pushed to take minutes from Felton and Flip.

Also, we still don't know much of anything about how Kemba will perform here. Let's wait till we get some training camp reports and such.
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Re: Kemba's handshake raises questions for some 

Post#104 » by captaincrunk » Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:12 pm

BobsBuddy wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD DOWN NOW. WHO GIVES A FLIP ABOUT HOW HE SHAKES HANDS! ITS HOW HE PRODUCES FOR US ON THE COURT. IF HE DOESN'T HANDLE HIMSELF OFF THE COURT IN A PROFESSIONAL MANNER , BELEIVE ME MJ,CHO AND THE BOBCATS ORGANIZATION WILL HANDLE IT,NOT US.

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Re: Kemba's handshake raises questions for some 

Post#105 » by TheKingofSting » Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:28 pm

BobsBuddy wrote::lol: :lol: :lol: PLEASE LOCK THIS THREAD DOWN NOW. WHO GIVES A FLIP ABOUT HOW HE SHAKES HANDS! ITS HOW HE PRODUCES FOR US ON THE COURT. IF HE DOESN'T HANDLE HIMSELF OFF THE COURT IN A PROFESSIONAL MANNER , BELEIVE ME MJ,CHO AND THE BOBCATS ORGANIZATION WILL HANDLE IT,NOT US.


Why lock it? I don't agree that it's true either, that is why I put the picture at the bottom of the post with my opinion but everything said about people is not positive, we can talk/laugh at the notion of it here, don't be so touchy!
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Re: Kemba's handshake raises questions for some 

Post#106 » by TheKingofSting » Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:31 pm

doc.end wrote:The thinking behind this article is on the same level with the attack on deaf people birthday party because they supposedly used gang signals (sadly, true story).


I must have missed that, that's crazy! :-?
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Post#107 » by Jaruff » Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:41 pm

Stephen Jackson.

Enough said. We had a certified fan mauler and gunslinger on our team for a while. Kemba grew up in the Bronx. I'm confident that he can handle himself well.
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Post#108 » by ohara » Sun Jun 26, 2011 10:47 pm

I saw nothing that gives me cause for concern.
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Re: Dj Augustin and Kemba Walker 

Post#109 » by Kembastockton » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:09 pm

With Kemba's heart and skill set I imagine that he will have to be at least on par with Jameer Nelson. Lord willing who knows he might live up to the Tim Hardaway comparisons which would be awesome.
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Re: Dj Augustin and Kemba Walker 

Post#110 » by mrknowitall215 » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:25 pm

KEMBA WALKER FOR STARTING PG...got my vote.
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Re: Dj Augustin and Kemba Walker 

Post#111 » by TheKingofSting » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:25 pm

DJQuick wrote:With Kemba's heart and skill set I imagine that he will have to be at least on par with Jameer Nelson. Lord willing who knows he might live up to the Tim Hardaway comparisons which would be awesome.


He's an inch taller than Nelson if the measurements on the ESPN site are accurate, a young AI but not as selfish with his shots would be Great!
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Re: Dj Augustin and Kemba Walker 

Post#112 » by Kembastockton » Sun Jun 26, 2011 11:42 pm

Kemba2Hendo wrote:
DJQuick wrote:With Kemba's heart and skill set I imagine that he will have to be at least on par with Jameer Nelson. Lord willing who knows he might live up to the Tim Hardaway comparisons which would be awesome.


He's an inch taller than Nelson if the measurements on the ESPN site are accurate, a young AI but not as selfish with his shots would be Great!


If Kemba's quickness, and ability to get off his shot is anywhere close to AI's then we have hit the jackpot.
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Re: Dj Augustin and Kemba Walker 

Post#113 » by ohara » Mon Jun 27, 2011 12:27 am

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ohara wrote:
ohara wrote:Kemba will not be ready to start on Day 1. I have little doubt he will eventually take the starting PG job from DJ, but it will take some time. Dont throw a ton of pressure on Kemba right away. If DJ is having a good year and Kemba is also showing signs he is ready, then the ealiest you trade DJ is the Trading Deadline. If someone is in strong contention for a Playoff spot and need a PG who can score, they will pay a very handsome proce - like a 1st rounder in the 2012 Draft. If you trade him away early, they will low ball us.


Have to rethink this a bit. With DJ's history of not coping well with competition, be it from Ray or even Flip, the strong competition he will be getting from Kemba may just cause him to regress in a very public way. If we are able to move him quickly for a decent player and a 2012 1st, it might be best to move quickly rather than waiting. If he withers under the pressure of Kemba and loses his starting role, and starts playing like crap and sulking, his value only plummets. Gotta think the FO may not say anything on it publicly, but they may very well entertain trading DJ before the season even starts. I really like DJ, but I dont see him surviving the assault of swag and performance I think will come from Kemba. That kid is on a mission.


We wouldn't get that much for him. If you look at what the Rockets paid for Flynn, we can expect a little more than that.


I dont think you can compare Flynn to DJ right now. DJ has proven he is competent, while Flynn has not come close yet. They are still looking at only the potential of Flynn while DJ has proven something at least and still has a little more potential. I think we get much much more than what Flynn brought.
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Re: Kemba's handshake raises questions for some 

Post#114 » by BigSlam » Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:09 am

Kemba2Hendo wrote:
From Yardbarker.com

Last night (two nights ago now) the Charlotte Bobcats selected UConn star point guard Kemba Walker with the #9 pick.

After his name was announced Walker embraced everyone at his table and also performed some type of gang-style handshake.

Is this something the Bobcats need to worry about, or is it a harmless handshake among friends?

These questions need to be raised when a team is going to invest millions into a young man coming out of college.


What is your opinion on this little video?

That is unbelieveable. Someone actually took the time to bring Kemba's character into question because of "some type of gang-style handshake". Not an ACTUAL gang-style handshake but the assumption that it is one or at least looks a little like it maybe, could be, might be one?

Who ever wrote that piece must piss their pants any time they watch baseball and some of the hand gestures that go on there.
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Re: Dj Augustin and Kemba Walker 

Post#115 » by BigSlam » Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:20 am

Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:Just MHO but I never saw DJ really run the offense that well last year. Maybe it was an artifact from LB not trusting him, but it seemed like DJ thought his job was to dribble the ball across the half-court line, then pass to Jackson or Diaw who then actually ran the set offense for 90% of the game.

Really? Because he averaged 6.1 assists per game for the season with a high of 7.7 per game in Novemeber, 7.3 in January and 7.5 per game to close out the season in April. If 90% of the game Jackson and Diaw were running the sets, how did DJ average so many assists?

Further more, if you think that DJ can't run a set then I hope you don't hold out high hopes for Kemba! I LOVE Kemba's ability to score one on one and break defenders down while getting to the rack and that step back J of his is money - but I wonder how long it would take for Hendo and Maggette and T2 and Biz to totally loose interest in a game and start to get frustrated with him watching Kemba take on the opposing team by himself and not get them involved - because they need help getting their shots as they don't create very well for themselves.
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Re: Dj Augustin and Kemba Walker 

Post#116 » by BigSlam » Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:29 am

nyhuskyfan wrote:As for the discussion of whether Kemba has "it", or if there's a such thing as "it" - there are no guarantees about how well things translate to the NBA.........

I don't think there is any doubt at all that Kemba has "it" and I would be a zillion percent shocked if "it" didn't translate to the NBA. With Kemba "it" is just so natural, "it" comes easily to him. He doesn't fake "it", "it" is just who he is. I think it's one of the things that makes him so damn likeable and a lot of us so cautiously excited.

DJ is fantastic and I personally think that he has outstanding potential, but him not having that swag that Kemba has is never going to change. DJ is who he is, just like Kemba is who he is.

I'm not sure that makes one more of a starter than the other (like I have said in the past, TJ Ford has that swag as does Felton - and that never really helped them or their teams), but it's damn exciting to know we have two young PG who are so different that can give us different looks on the floor - and hopefully sooner rather than later one of them step up to be a legit top end PG in the NBA.
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Re: Dj Augustin and Kemba Walker 

Post#117 » by captaincrunk » Mon Jun 27, 2011 1:44 am

BigSlam wrote:
Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:Just MHO but I never saw DJ really run the offense that well last year. Maybe it was an artifact from LB not trusting him, but it seemed like DJ thought his job was to dribble the ball across the half-court line, then pass to Jackson or Diaw who then actually ran the set offense for 90% of the game.

Really? Because he averaged 6.1 assists per game for the season with a high of 7.7 per game in Novemeber, 7.3 in January and 7.5 per game to close out the season in April. If 90% of the game Jackson and Diaw were running the sets, how did DJ average so many assists?

Perhaps it was because he wasted so few possessions in turnovers? IIRC he is top 5, lead for a few months even, in A/T ratio.
BigSlam wrote:Further more, if you think that DJ can't run a set then I hope you don't hold out high hopes for Kemba! I LOVE Kemba's ability to score one on one and break defenders down while getting to the rack and that step back J of his is money - but I wonder how long it would take for Hendo and Maggette and T2 and Biz to totally loose interest in a game and start to get frustrated with him watching Kemba take on the opposing team by himself and not get them involved - because they need help getting their shots as they don't create very well for themselves.

Definitely.
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Re: Dj Augustin and Kemba Walker 

Post#118 » by TheKingofSting » Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:07 am

BigSlam wrote:
Vanderbilt_Grad wrote:Just MHO but I never saw DJ really run the offense that well last year. Maybe it was an artifact from LB not trusting him, but it seemed like DJ thought his job was to dribble the ball across the half-court line, then pass to Jackson or Diaw who then actually ran the set offense for 90% of the game.

Really? Because he averaged 6.1 assists per game for the season with a high of 7.7 per game in Novemeber, 7.3 in January and 7.5 per game to close out the season in April. If 90% of the game Jackson and Diaw were running the sets, how did DJ average so many assists?

Further more, if you think that DJ can't run a set then I hope you don't hold out high hopes for Kemba! I LOVE Kemba's ability to score one on one and break defenders down while getting to the rack and that step back J of his is money - but I wonder how long it would take for Hendo and Maggette and T2 and Biz to totally loose interest in a game and start to get frustrated with him watching Kemba take on the opposing team by himself and not get them involved - because they need help getting their shots as they don't create very well for themselves.


That is the thing, Kemba can create for others, I'm not singling you out but I see a lot of doubt of Kemba across the board on our fan sites, I think if some of our fans were given a pot of Gold they'd immediately start worrying about how they were going to get it home!
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Re: Kemba's handshake raises questions for some 

Post#119 » by Bassman » Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:32 am

That's crap...he's got some special shake he shares with someone in his family or a friend. Who was he shaking with? My son and I have a special handshake that we developed when he was 8 years old, and we still share it on occasion (he's 26).
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Re: Dj Augustin and Kemba Walker 

Post#120 » by Rich4114 » Mon Jun 27, 2011 2:41 am

Kemba will start in time. DJ is the starter for now, and it's probably a good thing for a variety of reasons. We have the luxury of bringing Kemba along slowly. Silas did this with Baron Davis, and that was when the Hornets only option at PG was David Wesley.

Plus, we basically lost Jackson and gained a backup PG (for now) so it will help us suck enough to secure a top 4 lottery pick. This is all part of the rebuild and I think it'll be worth it 3 years from now. I wish they did this back in 2005 when we had the first chance (though technically it was a build not rebuild), but better late than never.

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