Barbeque Chicken: The Cody Zeller Thread - Pt 2

[yosemiteben]

I can see that MKIA, except I'm not sure I agree with the "less tough" part. I think if Hansbrough had Zeller's size and athleticism he would be a lot better player.

[Liver_Pooty]

Hansboroughs "toughness" is so overrated. I remember earlier when Artest stared him dead in the eye after Tyler got up off the floor looking mad. He nearly pissed himself.

[mrknowitall215]

Better passing more athletic more skilled. Zeller will blow him away once he gets stronger.

Zeller's height give him the future advantage, but they are comparable/similar. I also agree with you that Zeller is more skilled

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I know many will try to disagree, but this reiterates my initial observation that Cody Zeller reminds me of a taller, more athletic, less tough version of Tyler Hansbrough. Attacking the rim & getting to the free throw line is their biggest strength

This has to be fake. There is no way Sessions is not leading that category.

[catch20two]

I think Sessions would be on that list if it was "free throws attempted per 48" but Sessions don't draw many fouls that don't lead to him getting to the free throw line. Players like Dwight, Lebron, and Psycho T get fouled for miscellaneous reasons like hack-a-Dwight, to avoid a fastbreak, or just fighting for rebounds.

[fatlever]

hansbrough averages 6.8 fta per 36, sessions is right behind him with 6.7.

[Liver_Pooty]

I freaking hate Hansborough more than any other player in the NBA.

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I think Sessions would be on that list if it was "free throws attempted per 48" but Sessions don't draw many fouls that don't lead to him getting to the free throw line. Players like Dwight, Lebron, and Psycho T get fouled for miscellaneous reasons like hack-a-Dwight, to avoid a fastbreak, or just fighting for rebounds.

Good point. With the exception of wade punching him in the nuts (I guess that would fit somewhat into the category of fouls Psycho T draws the best).

[HornetJail]

I freaking hate Hansborough more than any other player in the NBA.

Bynum, Kobe, Wade, Chalmers, Beverley, and Matt Barnes still exist, but I'm pretty close to agreeing with you.

[karkinos]

love zeller's play since asbreak

[JDR720]

my least favorite player= Chris Bosh i hate dinosaurs

[LamarMatic7]

Hansboroughs "toughness" is so overrated. I remember earlier when Artest stared him dead in the eye after Tyler got up off the floor looking mad. He nearly pissed himself.

I would rather describe him as shameless and dirty than tough.

[KembaWalker]

I was so mad all season that Zeller undeservedly got playing time over Adrien when he was so garbage but I guess it was worth it to get him to the level he's playing at now. Again showing why forum posters shouldn't really judge NBA coaching staffs lol

[mrknowitall215]

I was so mad all season that Zeller undeservedly got playing time over Adrien when he was so garbage but I guess it was worth it to get him to the level he's playing at now. Again showing why forum posters shouldn't really judge NBA coaching staffs lol

They could've had Zeller playing at the level he's playing at now if they weren't so adamant about making him a stretch 4 --- in which he isn't. Zeller's improved play is primarily due to the fact that he's stopped settling for jump shots and is now attacking the rim & offensive glass, something they should've had him doing from the start. I'll give Cho a pass on this evaluation of Zeller's prospects, but I'll keep a raised eyebrow as such

I questioned if Zeller was suitable to translate into a jump shooting power forward the moment Cho tried to compare him to LaMarcus Aldridge using the label 'stretch 4' and it hasn't converted yet. There's no foul in allowing Zeller to play like a typical PF if that's what he's best at as long as he's productive at doing it like he has been recently

[Liver_Pooty]

I was so mad all season that Zeller undeservedly got playing time over Adrien when he was so garbage but I guess it was worth it to get him to the level he's playing at now. Again showing why forum posters shouldn't really judge NBA coaching staffs lol

They could've had Zeller playing at the level he's playing at now if they weren't so adamant about making him a stretch 4 --- in which he isn't. Zeller's improved play is primarily due to the fact that he's stopped settling for jump shots and is now attacking the rim & offensive glass, something they should've had him doing from the start. I'll give Cho a pass on this evaluation of Zeller's prospects, but I'll keep a raised eyebrow as such

I questioned if Zeller was suitable to translate into a jump shooting power forward the moment Cho tried to compare him to LaMarcus Aldridge using the label 'stretch 4' and it hasn't converted yet. There's no foul in allowing Zeller to play like a typical PF if that's what he's best at as long as he's productive at doing it like he has been recently

Zeller will eventually be a nice stretch 4. May take him a season or two.

[mrknowitall215]

I was so mad all season that Zeller undeservedly got playing time over Adrien when he was so garbage but I guess it was worth it to get him to the level he's playing at now. Again showing why forum posters shouldn't really judge NBA coaching staffs lol

They could've had Zeller playing at the level he's playing at now if they weren't so adamant about making him a stretch 4 --- in which he isn't. Zeller's improved play is primarily due to the fact that he's stopped settling for jump shots and is now attacking the rim & offensive glass, something they should've had him doing from the start. I'll give Cho a pass on this evaluation of Zeller's prospects, but I'll keep a raised eyebrow as such

I questioned if Zeller was suitable to translate into a jump shooting power forward the moment Cho tried to compare him to LaMarcus Aldridge using the label 'stretch 4' and it hasn't converted yet. There's no foul in allowing Zeller to play like a typical PF if that's what he's best at as long as he's productive at doing it like he has been recently

Zeller will eventually be a nice stretch 4. May take him a season or two.

I'll begin to believe it the day that I see Cody Zeller make one (1) single 3-pointer during a game. He hasn't made one in 2 full years at Indiana University, and has yet to make one this far into Charlotte's season. I'm not one that tend to believe in things that I haven't even seen a glimpse of

[JDR720]

I dont think Zeller will ever become a true stretch 4 (like Ryan Anderson) but a regular PF with some shooting abilities like David Lee

[Liver_Pooty]

They could've had Zeller playing at the level he's playing at now if they weren't so adamant about making him a stretch 4 --- in which he isn't. Zeller's improved play is primarily due to the fact that he's stopped settling for jump shots and is now attacking the rim & offensive glass, something they should've had him doing from the start. I'll give Cho a pass on this evaluation of Zeller's prospects, but I'll keep a raised eyebrow as such

I questioned if Zeller was suitable to translate into a jump shooting power forward the moment Cho tried to compare him to LaMarcus Aldridge using the label 'stretch 4' and it hasn't converted yet. There's no foul in allowing Zeller to play like a typical PF if that's what he's best at as long as he's productive at doing it like he has been recently

Zeller will eventually be a nice stretch 4. May take him a season or two.

I'll begin to believe it the day that I see Cody Zeller make one (1) single 3-pointer during a game. He hasn't made one in 2 full years at Indiana University, and has yet to make one this far into Charlotte's season. I'm not one that tend to believe in things that I haven't even seen a glimpse of

You don't have to be a three point shooter to become a stretch 4 in my opinion. I believe Pau Gasol is somewhat of a stretch 4, and he doesn't shoot 3's. Zeller isn't going to be a Nowitzki or Ryan Anderson, but he will be a solid shooter from 15-18 feet out. Im more than content with that.

[mrknowitall215]

Zeller will eventually be a nice stretch 4. May take him a season or two.

I'll begin to believe it the day that I see Cody Zeller make one (1) single 3-pointer during a game. He hasn't made one in 2 full years at Indiana University, and has yet to make one this far into Charlotte's season. I'm not one that tend to believe in things that I haven't even seen a glimpse of

You don't have to be a three point shooter to become a stretch 4 in my opinion. I believe Pau Gasol is somewhat of a stretch 4, and he doesn't shoot 3's. Zeller isn't going to be a Nowitzki or Ryan Anderson, but he will be a solid shooter from 15-18 feet out. Im more than content with that.

A 'stretch 4' is required to stretch out beyond the 3-point arc. If all Zeller is going to shoot is midrange jump shots then he will be a typical PF with a jump shot. Essentially every PF in NBA history has & continue to midrange jump shots. If he isn't intended to shoot 3-pointers then we need to do-away with the 'stretch 4' label when considering his prospective future outlook

[mrknowitall215]

This is CBS Sports rendition of all the considerable 'stretch 4s' in the NBA and how their efficiency measure up to their defensive rating. Not one player on this graph doesn't attempt and/or make 3-pointers