120 Guarantees: the Nic Batum thread

[Liver_Pooty]

How would you guys compare/contrast Batum/MKG wing combo versus Jack/Crash in 2010? As much as I love MKG and what Batum can bring to the line, it's hard for me to come up with anything I think the current duo is superior in. Our wings were so good that year

And boy did it plummet in a hurry.

If Chandler wasn't such a moron, and if Felton didn't get absolutely murdered and get his soul taken by Nelson we would have won that series

[KembaWalker]

How would you guys compare/contrast Batum/MKG wing combo versus Jack/Crash in 2010? As much as I love MKG and what Batum can bring to the line, it's hard for me to come up with anything I think the current duo is superior in. Our wings were so good that year

And boy did it plummet in a hurry.

If Chandler wasn't such a moron, and if Felton didn't get absolutely murdered and get his soul taken by Nelson we would have won that series

before I posted in this thread I had basically had the same thing written up in Stuns thread about how this year is our best ever roster on paper. 2010 had prime Felton/Jack/Crash/Diaw/Chandler(on paper). Current roster doesn't come close...

[Liver_Pooty]

How would you guys compare/contrast Batum/MKG wing combo versus Jack/Crash in 2010? As much as I love MKG and what Batum can bring to the line, it's hard for me to come up with anything I think the current duo is superior in. Our wings were so good that year

And boy did it plummet in a hurry.

If Chandler wasn't such a moron, and if Felton didn't get absolutely murdered and get his soul taken by Nelson we would have won that series

before I posted in this thread I had basically had the same thing written up in Stuns thread about how this year is our best ever roster on paper. 2010 had prime Felton/Jack/Crash/Diaw/Chandler(on paper). Current roster doesn't come close...

That series was won and lost by Nelson and Felton.

Bad thing is that Chandler didn't want to be here, and was a dud. Starting Ratliff was a joke.

Were off topic, but we should have at least won 2 games that series. Ridiculous.

[Tupik]

I still hate Jameer Nelson with all my guts to this very day because of that series.

[Stun704]

How would you guys compare/contrast Batum/MKG wing combo versus Jack/Crash in 2010? As much as I love MKG and what Batum can bring to the line, it's hard for me to come up with anything I think the current duo is superior in. Our wings were so good that year

And boy did it plummet in a hurry.

If Chandler wasn't such a moron, and if Felton didn't get absolutely murdered and get his soul taken by Nelson we would have won that series

before I posted in this thread I had basically had the same thing written up in Stuns thread about how this year is our best ever roster on paper. 2010 had prime Felton/Jack/Crash/Diaw/Chandler(on paper). Current roster doesn't come close...

Chandler was trash that year, Theo **** Ratlfif was the starter. Kemba is better then Felton, MKG could have a similar season to Crash this year and Batum could equal the same production for jack. Big Al when healthy is more talented then anyone on that old bobcats squad

[LofJ]

If Diaw and Chandler were actually motivated to play up to their actual talent level that starting unit would definitely be better than what we have now. That said MKG is going to be better than Crash ever was and in the playoffs I'll take Kemba over Felton everyday of the week. If we ever get rid of Al and play a frontcourt rotation of Zeller, Kaminsky, Biz, and Hawes I'll take them over the rotation of the 2010 Bobcats as well. If Chandler actually cared to try that would be a different story. I think he more than anything is responsible for us deciding to blow up that team, I'll never like him because of how crappy his attitude was here.

Edit: At least we helped give the Mavs the championship that year, I loved seeing Dirk take down Lebron and super friends.

[Soul Rebel]

I like the fact that he took the #5 for his jersey number. That's the number he wore in France and maybe he's ready to channel that dominating play in his new locale. Fresh start maybe where he owns more of the game, rather than deferring to LMA/Lillard/Matthews.

[KembaWalker]

And boy did it plummet in a hurry.

If Chandler wasn't such a moron, and if Felton didn't get absolutely murdered and get his soul taken by Nelson we would have won that series

before I posted in this thread I had basically had the same thing written up in Stuns thread about how this year is our best ever roster on paper. 2010 had prime Felton/Jack/Crash/Diaw/Chandler(on paper). Current roster doesn't come close...

Chandler was trash that year, Theo **** Ratlfif was the starter. Kemba is better then Felton, MKG could have a similar season to Crash this year and Batum could equal the same production for jack. Big Al when healthy is more talented then anyone on that old bobcats squad

you're the one that said on paper, not me. Gerald Wallace that year was much better than Big Al has ever been in his life

[driveandkick]

I like the fact that he took the #5 for his jersey number. That's the number he wore in France and maybe he's ready to channel that dominating play in his new locale. Fresh start maybe where he owns more of the game, rather than deferring to LMA/Lillard/Matthews.

I was thinking about that earlier today. Wouldn't be surprised if we see Batum average 16-17 ppg this year.

[BlackOutBuzz]

Remember when that poster came in and said he was hearing the trade was Batum/McCollum for Henderson/Zeller? It was so out of left field as Batum hadn't even been mentioned before that. It's interesting that the deal ended up being Vonleh instead of Zeller, with no McCollum at all.

Seems like Zeller may hold a bit more value around the league, and was more likely to get teams interested. The old bait and switch. Made more sense for Charlotte to keep their starting 4 and for Portland to take a chance on the high upside prospect.

Pure speculation, of course. I'm not sure which deal I would've preferred.

[yosemiteben]

Seems like Zeller may hold a bit more value around the league, and was more likely to get teams interested. The old bait and switch.

This is still my theory.

[Liver_Pooty]

I think a lot of people are too busy looking at stats, and not realizing just how much better Batum is than Henderson. This is a huge upgrade that can defend 4 positions. Better playmaker, and shooter while being able to create his own shot that doesn't revolve around a fade away baseline 19 footer. He's going to surprise you guys.

[BlackOutBuzz]

I think a lot of people are too busy looking at stats, and not realizing just how much better Batum is than Henderson. This is a huge upgrade that can defend 4 positions. Better playmaker, and shooter while being able to create his own shot that doesn't revolve around a fade away baseline 19 footer. He's going to surprise you guys.

I love Batum, always been a fan of his game. It's the one-year contract that scares me.

[HornetJail]

I think a lot of people are too busy looking at stats, and not realizing just how much better Batum is than Henderson. This is a huge upgrade that can defend 4 positions. Better playmaker, and shooter while being able to create his own shot that doesn't revolve around a fade away baseline 19 footer. He's going to surprise you guys.

I love Batum, always been a fan of his game. It's the one-year contract that scares me.

You and everyone else. One year ago, I would not have hesitated to trade the 9th pick in 2014 and Gerald Henderson for him. It's the timing that really gets me. We also had no idea that Noah Vonleh was going to be available for us.

[Soul Rebel]

I think a lot of people are too busy looking at stats, and not realizing just how much better Batum is than Henderson. This is a huge upgrade that can defend 4 positions. Better playmaker, and shooter while being able to create his own shot that doesn't revolve around a fade away baseline 19 footer. He's going to surprise you guys.

I love Batum, always been a fan of his game. It's the one-year contract that scares me.

You and everyone else. One year ago, I would not have hesitated to trade the 9th pick in 2014 and Gerald Henderson for him. It's the timing that really gets me. We also had no idea that Noah Vonleh was going to be available for us.

I know it's no guarantee, but with so much money opening up for us next summer, even if Batum balls out, we will pay him.... no? If Batum walks, this FO is way worse off and short-sighted than I thought.

At 27 years old, I have no qualms paying him what he's owed if he becomes that dominating supersized SG averaging 17 a game and raining it down from 3-pt land. I think his impact will be seen moreso with MKG and Kemba.... possibly even Kaminsky if he gets burn.

[yosemiteben]

I think a lot of people are too busy looking at stats, and not realizing just how much better Batum is than Henderson. This is a huge upgrade that can defend 4 positions. Better playmaker, and shooter while being able to create his own shot that doesn't revolve around a fade away baseline 19 footer. He's going to surprise you guys.

I love Batum, always been a fan of his game. It's the one-year contract that scares me.

Same here. I just like that he has ties with our FO already and he seems genuinely excited to be here.

He said in his intro video that when Chad Buchanan left POR to come to our FO that he told Batum he was going to find a way to bring him along as well. I think making a deal for Batum has been a long time in the making.

[HornetJail]

I think a lot of people are too busy looking at stats, and not realizing just how much better Batum is than Henderson. This is a huge upgrade that can defend 4 positions. Better playmaker, and shooter while being able to create his own shot that doesn't revolve around a fade away baseline 19 footer. He's going to surprise you guys.

I love Batum, always been a fan of his game. It's the one-year contract that scares me.

Same here. I just like that he has ties with our FO already and he seems genuinely excited to be here.

He said in his intro video that when Chad Buchanan left POR to come to our FO that he told Batum he was going to find a way to bring him along as well. I think making a deal for Batum has been a long time in the making.

Our interest in Batum goes back to before Cho. I remember we tried tried to get him for Wallace.

[MasterIchiro]

Now that Biz (one-way player) is gone does anyone feel concerned Clifford will shift Batum to more SF if Lamb shoots well from 3 and the team is winning with Lamb getting more minutes at SG paired with Batum at the expense of MKG?

[JDR720]

Now that Biz (one-way player) is gone does anyone feel concerned Clifford will shift Batum to more SF if Lamb shoots well from 3 and the team is winning with Lamb getting more minutes at SG paired with Batum at the expense of MKG?

MKG is a two-way player. so no. if Cliff actually benches MKG for Lamb he should be fired on the spot.

[BlackOutBuzz]

Just realized this is the second time we traded Gerald to Portland.