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Post#101 » by yosemiteben » Mon Feb 1, 2016 6:12 am

Braggins wrote:End of bench developmental spots should be used on guys that might have decent upside. I would cut him for an NBA body or someone with upside.

He just turned 21 in October. How can you say he doesn't have upside?
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Post#102 » by Braggins » Mon Feb 1, 2016 6:31 am

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Braggins wrote:End of bench developmental spots should be used on guys that might have decent upside. I would cut him for an NBA body or someone with upside.

He just turned 21 in October. How can you say he doesn't have upside?

Because he isn't athletic, has no above average skills (maybe shooting?), and hasn't done a single thing since high school that would suggest he has much of a chance of being a good NBA player. He is tall for a PG but he has never been strong or physical compared to peers so that is mostly going to be wasted. I'm not even sure if having good height for a PG will matter since he hasn't really shown any legit NBA pg skills. What exactly are you basing his upside on?

edit: I have to admit that if he was even able to take Roberts place as our 3rd pg next season that it would be decent value, but he has shown very little since high school and the fact that he can't get a single minute over Brian Roberts even when half our team is injured isn't exactly helping his case.
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte Aaron (?) Harrison 

Post#103 » by JDR720 » Mon Feb 1, 2016 12:27 pm

he isn't a PG, his brother is the PG. Aaron is the SG.

this is his DX video from a while back.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rOghuRplh8

his ceiling is a decent 3&D combo guard (assuming he can get some PG skills)
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Re: Welcome to Charlotte Aaron (?) Harrison 

Post#104 » by fatlever » Mon Feb 1, 2016 6:14 pm

Charlotte Hornets PR ‏@HornetsPR 13m13 minutes ago

Today @hornets have reassigned G Aaron Harrison to the @okcblue of the @nbadleague. He played w/ the Blue on Jan 22 & was recalled Jan 23.
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Post#105 » by yosemiteben » Mon Feb 1, 2016 6:44 pm

Good sign that folks are getting healthy.
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Post#106 » by Flip Murray » Mon Feb 1, 2016 7:03 pm

i am honestly still confused as to whether he's the PG or SG brother
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Post#107 » by HornetJail » Mon Feb 1, 2016 7:18 pm

Flip Murray wrote:i am honestly still confused as to whether he's the PG or SG brother

I kinda thought they were both point guards, but Aaron has played 55 minutes in 13 games and has yet to record an assist in the NBA.
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Post#108 » by Flip Murray » Mon Feb 1, 2016 7:24 pm

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Flip Murray wrote:i am honestly still confused as to whether he's the PG or SG brother

I kinda thought they were both point guards, but Aaron has played 55 minutes in 13 games and has yet to record an assist in the NBA.


I'm pretty sure we have the one that was listed as a SG coming out of HS? I think that's correct. I remember the PG was ranked a spot higher as a recruit and if you looked at their HS stats the listed PG had a lot of assists while the listed SG scored alot more.

Without knowing too much about the situation I think this could've been a colossal **** up scenario by their AAU/HS/youth coaches who pigeonholed them into traditional PG/SG roles, rather than giving them freedom to operate as primary ballhandlers. Granted, these are baseless assumptions on my part but I could easily see this happening. I'm sure there are Kentucky fans who would know a lot more about these guys.
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Post#109 » by Flip Murray » Mon Feb 1, 2016 7:30 pm

I'd actually love to do some research into Aaron and Andrew Harrison about how the Harrisons' development. It would be a pretty interesting case study
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Post#110 » by LamarMatic7 » Mon Feb 1, 2016 7:34 pm

Only recently did I learn that his brother called Kaminsky the N-word. The randomest thing ever. It's even funnier when you consider how much do the "7-foot white guy" stereotypes fit Kam.
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Post#111 » by BlackOutBuzz » Mon Feb 1, 2016 7:36 pm

Flip Murray wrote:i am honestly still confused as to whether he's the PG or SG brother

That was the basis of my joke when I added the "(?)" to the thread title.

Andrew was the PG at Kentucky, and apparently always was when they were growing up. Aaron always took on the 2-guard role.

Andrew was considered the better prospect, mainly due to his size at the PG position, but initially both were viewed as potential lottery picks. Of course that changed, drastically. Phoenix drafted and Memphis traded for Andrew, and of course we got Aaron after the draft.

This is where it gets weird: by the time we played Memphis in Summer League, the Grizzlies had decided Andrew was a better fit at the 2, while we moved Aaron to the 1. So they never really matched up on each either.

And I can't remember which it was, but we had a pre-draft workout scheduled with one of them and the other showed up in his place unannounced. Makes you think of those twins back in middle school who periodically would "switch" to mess with their teachers.

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Post#112 » by Flip Murray » Mon Feb 1, 2016 7:37 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:Only recently did I learn that his brother called Kaminsky the N-word. The randomest thing ever. It's even funnier when you consider how much do the "7-foot white guy" stereotypes fit Kam.


hilariously random situation. It made me like Kaminsky and both Harrisons
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Post#113 » by Flip Murray » Mon Feb 1, 2016 7:41 pm

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Flip Murray wrote:i am honestly still confused as to whether he's the PG or SG brother

That was the basis of my joke when I added the "(?)" to the thread title.

Andrew was the PG at Kentucky, and apparently always was when they were growing up. Aaron always took on the 2-guard role.

Andrew was considered the better prospect, mainly due to his size at the PG position, but initially both were viewed as potential lottery picks. Of course that changed, drastically. Phoenix drafted and Memphis traded for Andrew, and of course we got Aaron after the draft.

This is where it gets weird: by the time we played Memphis in Summer League, the Grizzlies had decided Andrew was a better fit at the 2, while we moved Aaron to the 1. So they never really matched up on each either.

And I can't remember which it was, but we had a pre-draft workout scheduled with one of them and the other showed up in his place unannounced. Makes you think of those twins back in middle school who periodically would "switch" to mess with their teachers.

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Do you think that they just decided in like middle school that Aaron wanted to be SG and Andrew would be PG? I honestly wonder if it hindered their development, especially Aaron's. I would think it did. Now we're asking Aaron to have the ball in his hands a lot more than he was used to.
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Post#114 » by BlackOutBuzz » Mon Feb 1, 2016 8:05 pm

Flip Murray wrote:Do you think that they just decided in like middle school that Aaron wanted to be SG and Andrew would be PG?


It honestly kinda sounds like that. I mean how many thousands of times did they play one-on-one growing up? It was probably like playing against a mirror image of yourself, picking up on a lot of the same moves and such, and yet they always had rigidly defined roles in-game.

Just read a report about how they were the 4th and 5th ranked prospects out of their class (behind Wiggins, Parker, and Randle). There's obviously some talent there, but being pigeonholed into particular roles probably hurt their development overall.

I think we were really hunting for a third PG to take over for Roberts that also had a bit of upside (post-draft of course, second round picks be damned) since we had Lin taking over the primary backup role, hence the Harrison signing. Though in-season we've typically seen Harrison on the wing with Roberts at PG; that is, in the little time he's actually played.

Andrew on the other hand hasn't even played outside the D-League this year, and keep in mind a couple weeks ago Memphis was calling up any and everybody that could play some PG while Conley was injured (pre-Chalmers trade). Feels like at this point they both may be viewed as 2-guards with decent size and handling ability, but really have to grow a lot to fit into the NBA game.

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Post#115 » by Flip Murray » Mon Feb 1, 2016 8:20 pm

BlackOutBuzz wrote:
Flip Murray wrote:Do you think that they just decided in like middle school that Aaron wanted to be SG and Andrew would be PG?


It honestly kinda sounds like that. I mean how many thousands of times did they play one-on-one growing up? It was probably like playing against a mirror image of yourself, picking up on a lot of the same moves and such, and yet they always had rigidly defined roles in-game.

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Found an interesting article on Calipari's website from a few years ago. It has some good background and insights.

http://www.coachcal.com/23371/2013/09/meet-wildcats-like-looking-mirror-harrisons-push-perfection/


Andrew’s the point guard; Aaron’s the shooting guard. Andrew’s the distributor; Aaron’s the scorer. Andrew’s got the better handles; Aaron’s got the better long-range shot.

Both can alternate positions when need be, but Andrew became the point guard in elementary school when his dad had him bring the ball up the court.

“We were both wings at first, or twos and threes, but we had a little point guard on our team that kept getting trapped with the ball and couldn’t see over the top,” Andrew said. “One day my dad, in like fifth grade, let me bring it up and I was able to throw it over the top. It just stuck like that.”

With roles defined, Andrew focused more on his ball handling and passing while Aaron honed his shooting and mid-range game.

Aaron averaged more points in their senior seasons at Fort Bend Travis High School with 23.1 points per game. He will be counted on to provide the Cats perimeter shooting after UK lost 85.9 percent of its 3-point production from last year.

“My strengths are definitely scoring, getting to the basket off the dribble, shooting and creating for other people, and playing on-ball defense,” Aaron said. “I need to work on my consistency. My jump shot has to get more consistent. And the off-the-ball defense, I need to work on that, staying focused on my man.”

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Post#116 » by LamarMatic7 » Mon Feb 1, 2016 8:28 pm

I can't understand how the hell could they have been ranked so high out of HS.

Look, according to Eric Collins he works his butt off and listens to everything the coaching staff tells him. He's almost only played spot minutes during garbage time and some pre-season ball. However.. I haven't seen anything about him which suggests that there's a very talented player there.
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Post#117 » by Flip Murray » Mon Feb 1, 2016 8:40 pm

LamarMatic7 wrote:I can't understand how the hell could they have been ranked so high out of HS.

Look, according to Eric Collins he works his butt off and listens to everything the coaching staff tells him. He's almost only played spot minutes during garbage time and some pre-season ball. However.. I haven't seen anything about him which suggests that there's a very talented player there.


i still can't believe bj mullins was number 1
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Post#118 » by LamarMatic7 » Mon Feb 1, 2016 10:03 pm

Flip Murray wrote:
LamarMatic7 wrote:I can't understand how the hell could they have been ranked so high out of HS.

Look, according to Eric Collins he works his butt off and listens to everything the coaching staff tells him. He's almost only played spot minutes during garbage time and some pre-season ball. However.. I haven't seen anything about him which suggests that there's a very talented player there.


i still can't believe bj mullins was number 1

He was THAT high!? Damn.

But, yeah, at least there you see the mobility and the height he had. Mullens should have been a legit starter at this point and age if he had any basketball IQ.

Not sure what does Harrison have. I guess, perhaps, he was the over-bearing big guard type in HS.
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Post#119 » by spaceballer » Mon Mar 14, 2016 7:23 pm

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Post#120 » by yosemiteben » Sat Mar 19, 2016 3:15 pm

Last night AHarr scored 20 points for the Erie Bayhawks...on 5 - 22 shooting.

At least they're letting him shoot?

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