The Trade Thread

[MasterIchiro]

Precisely, I'm not anxious to move Sessions but definitely interested in an overpay. I think Boston (having just beat defending champion Miami) and Dallas are vulnerable because of their fan base.

[catch20two]

We are not good trade partners with the Celtics even if they have interest in Sessions. The only asset they have that would intrigue us is Sullinger and as aged and depleted as their frontcourt is right now they wouldn't be willing to part with him. The Mavs wouldn't be ideal trade partners either since the only prospect on their roster that would spark my interest is Jae Crowder and he essentially plays the same position as both of our rookies.

[Diop]

Sullinger has been pretty good for Boston so I can't see them swapping him for Sessions.

[catch20two]

I still like the Thunder as possible trade partners for Sessions even though they are pretty stubborn with breaking up their so-called chemistry. I hope they lose several consecutive straight games right before the All-Star break with poor play from their backcourt, particularly their point guards, to force some kind of form of desperation out of them. I don't know if they notice it or not but there's no way that they'll win it all this year with an inexperienced Reggie Jackson reserving Russell Westbrook's erratic style of play no matter how great Kevin Durant plays in the postseason. I like the idea of us receiving one if not both of Jeremy Lamb and PJ3 in a package involving Sessions.

[HornetJail]

A Sessions for PJ3 trade probably has some legs.

[illWILL8455]

Why doesn't Charlotte make a bold move and go after Al Jefferson?

Utah has to break up that front court dept at some point or they will risk allowing Milsap and Jefferson walk in free agency. It is no secret that Favors is a big part of the future of that team and he is going to want a lot of minutes. Kanter is also solid and can develop into a dominant big for them. Utah needs to be negotiated with because for the right package, they may just go for a deal with Charlotte. Maybe something along these lines.

Utah Trades: Al Jefferson, Jamaal Tinsley
Charlotte Trades: Ramon Sessions, Diop, and a 1st round pick

I would even be willing to part with more. We can part with our 1st round pick this year. It is shaping up to be a weak draft and we have a lot of youth. With our record this year, the pick will probably be top 5. Utah would love to get that in return for Jefferson if the alternative could be getting nothing for him if he leaves in free agency. In addition to this, we could amnesty Tyrus Thomas and then add Marvin Williams to that trade. That would free up some money for them. We could even toss in Henderson for Raja Bell as far as I am concerned. Yes, we need to blow up what has been an unsuccessful rebuilding project.

Making this bold move would define our direction. We would have Kemba, and Al Jefferson as 2 leaders on this team to build around. Kemba would get a reliable scorer to help him out a little on offense. Al is always a threat to go for a double double, something we need desperately.

I am a die-hard Charlotte Bobcats fan, but I am tired of us putting a terrible team on the floor that wins 7 out of 66 games.... That is bad enough to warrant refunding Bobcats season ticket holders there money back. It is time for us to make a move that will give us some actual building blocks to develop a competitive team that is not getting steam rolled in the NBA night in and night out.

What are your thoughts on this?

[Diop]

firstly we can't trade our first round pick.

The biggest risk would be Jefferson walking at the end of the season. I wouldn't do it.
I would rather try and sign him in the off season. We will have to overpay to get him to come here, but I think it would be worth it. We're going to have to overpay for someone eventually.

My wish list as of right now (My opinions changes like the weather) is to look like this next year.

Kemba, Sessions
McLemore, Gordon
MKG, Taylor
Jefferson, Mullens
Biz, Haywood

Still young and not quite good enough to step onto the treadmill.

Hopefully gain something from the expirings of Hendo, Diop this year.
I also believe we should be able to get some value from trading Gordon and Haywood next year.

Haywood is dirt cheap and a known quantity that will be attractive to a competing team.

[misterglover]

Why do you guys want to move sessions so bad? He's one of our best players, great character, and his loyalty is unsurpassed. I'd argue that a more potent backup PG can't be found in the league.

Players we should be looking at moving are players who's production and presence can easily be replaced; people like Henderson, Thomas, Williams, Warrick, Diop and even Gordon are a dime a dozen in the league.

i feel the same way but only about Henderson...I dont get why ppl seem so anxious to move him, I think he's a good player. To be honest he's the only one on this team I would personally keep and everybody else can be had including Kemba and MKG but only for a major piece in those 2 cases.....but I have to admit that i am not and was not in the draft MKG camp, i see him as a hustle role player currently on a team with no star for him to play a role around. To me Hendo has the most potential of anybody on our current roster.

As for the Boston thing, I think some of you guys are asking/expecting too much in return.....I'd be happy w/ a Sessions for Bass & this yrs pick deal.... Let Sessions go to a contender, we get a guy that can rebound then we then sign a PG from the d-league or acquire one in another trade. Either way is it really gonna affect our overall record at the end of the season and who has more value to us another 1st or our backup PG.

[Kembastockton]

Why do you guys want to move sessions so bad? He's one of our best players, great character, and his loyalty is unsurpassed. I'd argue that a more potent backup PG can't be found in the league.

Players we should be looking at moving are players who's production and presence can easily be replaced; people like Henderson, Thomas, Williams, Warrick, Diop and even Gordon are a dime a dozen in the league.

i feel the same way but only about Henderson...I dont get why ppl seem so anxious to move him, I think he's a good player. To be honest he's the only one on this team I would personally keep and everybody else can be had including Kemba and MKG but only for a major piece in those 2 cases.....but I have to admit that i am not and was not in the draft MKG camp, i see him as a hustle role player currently on a team with no star for him to play a role around. To me Hendo has the most potential of anybody on our current roster.

As for the Boston thing, I think some of you guys are asking/expecting too much in return.....I'd be happy w/ a Sessions for Bass & this yrs pick deal.... Let Sessions go to a contender, we get a guy that can rebound then we then sign a PG from the d-league or acquire one in another trade. Either way is it really gonna affect our overall record at the end of the season and who has more value to us another 1st or our backup PG.

The basic problem with your arguement is that you seem to think the team that we have now will be the team that we roll with for the next ten years. Not likely. Some guys will be kept many will go. The ones kept have to earn their place, because Micheal Jordon is only a multimillionaire. He is not a billionaire like many other owners.

Henderson is a restricted free agent. He in five years has proven to be an inconsistent scorer and mediocre defender. He is likely going to want a big raise to stay on a bad team. Due to the salary cap rules and the lack of huge revenue to small market teams the Bobcats can not afford to give a big raise to a mediocre two guard. Two guards are just to plentiful.

How can you say Hendo has the most potential on the team? More potential than Kemba, when Kemba is three years younger and averages more points, assists, and steals? More than Ramon who is only a year older yet puts up better all around stats in indentical minutes per game? As for MKG he is only 19. Biz is only 20. They are to young to know what kind of players they will be. So to to label MKG an energy player is not doing him justice. 10 years from now he will only be 29 when he reaches the nba plateau. There is absolutely no way of knowing how much better he can get in 10 years.

Bottom line is that if any player wants to be rewarded with a large contract, and kept in the team's long term plans he has to earn it. Hendo has earned a modest raise should he like to stay. He has not earned a large contract. He has definitely not made himself to indespensible to be moved in a deal that improves the team. Right now Kemba is the only player on this team any where close to making himself to indespensible to trade. Why? 17 ppg 6 asst. 2 stl pointguards are kind of a limited commodity. Throw in the fact that he is only in his second year, and by the time he is 25 he could very well be an elite pointguard.

[Robot Rock]

We can't afford to go into another season with just Biyombo and Haywood at C. It's playing 5-on-4 on offense. We're never gonna get to the postseason, or win 35 games for that matter, without upgrading at C.

I know there's not a ton of talent to be had out there, but we can't go empty-handed, field just those 2 at the pivot and tell fans "Yes, they're committed to winning."

[catch20two]

Jeremy Lamb? For some reason I believe that a trade for him is still very possible. They're talking about him on the general board.

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[Kembastockton]

Where did you get that the Cats are commited to winning? We are rebuilding. We have been for two years now. You can't expect a team to win while they are rebuilding. That is just not realistic. As great as it would be to get Al the cats may think he is to old to team with Kem and MKG. Which would be a valid arguement.

[Kembastockton]

Jeremy Lamb? For some reason I believe that a trade for him is still very possible. They're talking about him on the general board.

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The fact that he is in the DLeague more says that they want to develop him than that they want to trade him.

[catch20two]

Jeremy Lamb? For some reason I believe that a trade for him is still very possible. They're talking about him on the general board.

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The fact that he is in the DLeague more says that they want to develop him than that they want to trade him.

All it says to me is that he doesn't fit into what they're trying to do right now.

[catch20two]

CHA trade: Ramon Sessions, Portland's 1st rounder

CHA get: Jeremy Lamb, Eric Maynor, Charlotte's 2nd rounder

OKC trade: Jeremy Lamb, Eric Maynor, Charlotte's 2nd rounder

OKC get: Ramon Sessions, Portland's 1st rounder

It works for both teams and I seriously doubt that the Thunder would turn that down. Of course if this deal is made then we would have to trade either Hendo or BG for a big but it would allow us to draft a big like Noel or Bennett in the draft like we should.

[Kembastockton]

Take Portland's pick out, and I am down. Ramon is by far the best player in this trade. There is no reason for us to give a lottery pick along with an established nba player for a player with potential he may never realize.

[BigSlam]

Take Portland's pick out, and I am down. Ramon is by far the best player in this trade. There is no reason for us to give a lottery pick along with an established nba player for a player with potential he may never realize.

Keep the pick in there and I am stil down.

Kemba - Lamb - MKG - Al Jefferson (FA signing over the summer) - Noel (draft him this year)

Yes please.

[catch20two]

Sam Presti should do his disciple Rich Cho a favor and vice versa.

[SWedd523]

Or we could've just done what I was saying all along and drafted Lamb with the #2 pick.....

[catch20two]

Or we could've just done what I was saying all along and drafted Lamb with the #2 pick.....