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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1001 » by Diop » Wed Dec 11, 2024 2:30 am

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Tre Mann is shooting 41% at the rim this year, that is 245/246 qualified players.

I like Tre and fine keeping him because he is young and has the ability to be instant offense, but I am also not sold that he is a must have piece.


Well those numbers are gross, however I think his ball handling and scoring is badly missed when we don't have him on the floor in non-LaMelo mins. I also really like the potential of having him in a closing role in the last few mins of a tight game alongside LaMelo/Miller. I also don't see Jett Howard ever being anything special.


Yeah idk about Jett, he could be terrible but would you rather have Tre Mann at 15 million per year? or Jett Howard at 5 million + 10 million in cap space?

i get what you're saying, but that only works for me if that $10 mill gets a player as good as, if not better than Mann.

im not convinced they could do that.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1002 » by yosemiteben » Wed Dec 11, 2024 3:38 pm

With Brooklyn signaling that they are in sell off mode, I'm curious if we're going to do a deal with Brooklyn. Doubt anyone not in Brooklyn is as familiar with their roster as Jeff Peterson is.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1003 » by JMAC3 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 4:54 pm

yosemiteben wrote:With Brooklyn signaling that they are in sell off mode, I'm curious if we're going to do a deal with Brooklyn. Doubt anyone not in Brooklyn is as familiar with their roster as Jeff Peterson is.


Nets fan on the trade board think they are selling prime Chris Paul, Paul George and Tim Duncan. The asking prices for all their players are laughably high.

I am not expecting a very fun trade deadline for Hornets
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1004 » by JDR720 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:10 pm

They seem to think Cam Johnson is worth a Mikal Bridges package. That is, multiple 1st round picks. One of them even wanted Brandon Miller for him.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1005 » by yosemiteben » Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:25 pm

JDR720 wrote:They seem to think Cam Johnson is worth a Mikal Bridges package. That is, multiple 1st round picks. One of them even wanted Brandon Miller for him.

People are saying he's worth 5 1sts + a 1st swap? I find that hard to believe.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1006 » by JDR720 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:29 pm

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JDR720 wrote:They seem to think Cam Johnson is worth a Mikal Bridges package. That is, multiple 1st round picks. One of them even wanted Brandon Miller for him.

People are saying he's worth 5 1sts + a 1st swap? I find that hard to believe.

No, not any "people" if you mean media reporters or those types of things. Nets fans on the trade board.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1007 » by SWedd523 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:46 pm

I see no reason to get wrapped around the axle on what folks on a message board think. Who cares if SlimReaperX69420 thinks a guy is worth 15 picks
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1008 » by KembaWalker » Wed Dec 11, 2024 5:48 pm

Nets are one of those teams that have "ruined their future" like 5 times since the last time this team tried to do anything while everyone preaches patience. It'd be funny if they rapid rebuild into a better asset situation than us, again.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1009 » by HornetJail » Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:07 pm

KembaWalker wrote:It'd be funny if they rapid rebuild into a better asset situation than us, again.

that's the difference between letting your stars walk in free agency, and trading them for a ton of 1sts. they'll wait years for the best picks, but BRK will naturally have more capital than us in the long run.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1010 » by SWedd523 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 6:26 pm

KembaWalker wrote:Nets are one of those teams that have "ruined their future" like 5 times since the last time this team tried to do anything while everyone preaches patience. It'd be funny if they rapid rebuild into a better asset situation than us, again.

nah let's just soft tank one more year then try for realsies next season.

it'll work this time I promise
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1011 » by Rich4114 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 8:31 pm

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KembaWalker wrote:Nets are one of those teams that have "ruined their future" like 5 times since the last time this team tried to do anything while everyone preaches patience. It'd be funny if they rapid rebuild into a better asset situation than us, again.

nah let's just soft tank one more year then try for realsies next season.

it'll work this time I promise


Well see, that 2026 draft is pretty bad. But 2027... that's the real one. So only 2 more tanks after this one and then we can win a championship.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1012 » by JMAC3 » Wed Dec 11, 2024 10:11 pm

In Reality the Nets have been pretty bad in trades especially with the Rockets.

All in all the Harden trade for the Nets if you look what they gave up and what they ended up with:

Gave up Jarrett Allen, Caris Levert, Taureen Prince, Reed Sheppard, Tari Eason and 2027 pick swap owed to Rockets
Ended up with Ben Simmons, 2027 first via the Sixers and 4 2nd round picks. + 80 games of James Harden.

The Durant Trade was still really good, but 3 of the picks they got from the Suns, they had to send to Rockets just to get their pick rights back from Rockets for the Harden Trade. They also sent the Rockets the rights to the only 1st they got for Irving in that same deal.

Knicks really bailed the Nets out by overpaying 5 firsts for Bridges.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1013 » by KingCat » Thu Dec 12, 2024 9:12 am

Wonder how much GSW will be willing to cough up for Micic or even Tre Mann. Podz has to be one of the worst rotational players in the league and one of our guards would be a massive boost for them in comparison.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1014 » by Rich4114 » Fri Dec 13, 2024 2:12 pm

JMAC3 wrote:In Reality the Nets have been pretty bad in trades especially with the Rockets.

All in all the Harden trade for the Nets if you look what they gave up and what they ended up with:

Gave up Jarrett Allen, Caris Levert, Taureen Prince, Reed Sheppard, Tari Eason and 2027 pick swap owed to Rockets
Ended up with Ben Simmons, 2027 first via the Sixers and 4 2nd round picks. + 80 games of James Harden.

The Durant Trade was still really good, but 3 of the picks they got from the Suns, they had to send to Rockets just to get their pick rights back from Rockets for the Harden Trade. They also sent the Rockets the rights to the only 1st they got for Irving in that same deal.

Knicks really bailed the Nets out by overpaying 5 firsts for Bridges.


Wasn't Jeff Peterson the second in command overseeing all of this? :lol:
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1015 » by KembaWalker » Fri Dec 13, 2024 3:45 pm

Rich4114 wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:In Reality the Nets have been pretty bad in trades especially with the Rockets.

All in all the Harden trade for the Nets if you look what they gave up and what they ended up with:

Gave up Jarrett Allen, Caris Levert, Taureen Prince, Reed Sheppard, Tari Eason and 2027 pick swap owed to Rockets
Ended up with Ben Simmons, 2027 first via the Sixers and 4 2nd round picks. + 80 games of James Harden.

The Durant Trade was still really good, but 3 of the picks they got from the Suns, they had to send to Rockets just to get their pick rights back from Rockets for the Harden Trade. They also sent the Rockets the rights to the only 1st they got for Irving in that same deal.

Knicks really bailed the Nets out by overpaying 5 firsts for Bridges.


Wasn't Jeff Peterson the second in command overseeing all of this? :lol:


theres definitely a reason they let him walk when a vast majority of the fanbase would have been cheering if they fired Marks
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1016 » by EmpireFalls » Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:00 pm

Rich4114 wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:In Reality the Nets have been pretty bad in trades especially with the Rockets.

All in all the Harden trade for the Nets if you look what they gave up and what they ended up with:

Gave up Jarrett Allen, Caris Levert, Taureen Prince, Reed Sheppard, Tari Eason and 2027 pick swap owed to Rockets
Ended up with Ben Simmons, 2027 first via the Sixers and 4 2nd round picks. + 80 games of James Harden.

The Durant Trade was still really good, but 3 of the picks they got from the Suns, they had to send to Rockets just to get their pick rights back from Rockets for the Harden Trade. They also sent the Rockets the rights to the only 1st they got for Irving in that same deal.

Knicks really bailed the Nets out by overpaying 5 firsts for Bridges.


Wasn't Jeff Peterson the second in command overseeing all of this? :lol:

Nothing about Peterson’s track record so far has given me confidence that he’s some basketball visionary who will transform the franchise. That’s not to say that anything he’s done is bad, necessarily.

I mean the KD Kyrie Harden situation was a 1 of 1. Completely irrational all the way around down to the head coach. I’m not going to hold that against him because the moves they were making were to win now, and with significant superstar pressure as well.

But again, Jeff has done nothing to inspire confidence so far, spending a premium pick on Salaun and basically just eating salary for a few picks and Josh Green. We shall see… I’m ambivalent on him and Lee so far. Both will have to make many more important decisions in Charlotte.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1017 » by Rich4114 » Fri Dec 13, 2024 4:06 pm

Basically, if Jeff didn't draft Salaun and instead took Clingan or another productive prospect, I'd have a very different perception of him.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1018 » by yosemiteben » Fri Dec 13, 2024 6:30 pm

Rich4114 wrote:Basically, if Jeff didn't draft Salaun and instead took Clingan or another productive prospect, I'd have a very different perception of him.

It would have been pretty fun if we could have had our 6 pick Center injured at the same time as Nick and Mark.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1019 » by CuseMayne » Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:00 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
Rich4114 wrote:Basically, if Jeff didn't draft Salaun and instead took Clingan or another productive prospect, I'd have a very different perception of him.

It would have been pretty fun if we could have had our 6 pick Center injured at the same time as Nick and Mark.


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Re: Fake Trade Thread #6 

Post#1020 » by EmpireFalls » Fri Dec 13, 2024 10:17 pm

yosemiteben wrote:
Rich4114 wrote:Basically, if Jeff didn't draft Salaun and instead took Clingan or another productive prospect, I'd have a very different perception of him.

It would have been pretty fun if we could have had our 6 pick Center injured at the same time as Nick and Mark.

The best decision was to trade the pick

The second best decision was to take a player that other teams liked with the pick, in hopes of trading it (Clingan)

The third best decision was to take a productive player with the pick

We picked option 4. Take the huge gamble on the 6’11” kid who can’t block a shot or dribble a basketball.

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