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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#1021 » by JMAC3 » Fri Nov 7, 2025 7:44 am

Diop wrote:AD makes a ton of sense in joining the wounded list on the sideline. Could aim for an Allstar injury list. Trading the biggest positive so far this season for an off injured old star would be such a gross LolcAtz move.

The reason I entertained the Ball and Miller trades is because I am losing faith in their ability to stay on the court and want to rebuild.
Most would knock back the offer for that same reason.


Yeah, but at that cost you don't consider it? When AD plays he is legit a DPOY candidate.

LaMelo- Sion- Miller- AD- Kalk with Miles as the 6th man is actually a pretty good defensive team with 3 25 ppg scorers.

Maybe we get **** and we don't stay healthy for the next 2 years, but that team when healthy at least is a winning team. Easily would be the most talented Hornet team in 20 years and we would be really good when everyone plays. Even if Melo, Miller or AD are out for 10 game stints, as long as 2 were healthy we would be competitive imo.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#1022 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Nov 7, 2025 2:36 pm

AD sounds good on paper, but we would be playing Russian roulette with the injury concerns of LaMelo/Miller/AD.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#1023 » by Snidely FC » Fri Nov 7, 2025 3:15 pm

LaMelo for Jalen Suggs?

Hornets looking to improve culture get try hard leader Suggs

Lamelo to Disneyworld. Perfect.

edit - didn't realize Suggs has been out after knee cartilage surgery not sure that's any better than Melo's ankle
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#1024 » by Bassman » Fri Nov 7, 2025 3:20 pm

Very interesting article on ESPN: INTEL - Five NBA stars were watching. Most of these focus on perception around the league, including trades.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/46874485/nba-intel-trade-talks-next-ja-morant-zion-williamson-trae-young-lamelo-ball

Here is the main comment on Melo:

Bontemps: Entering this season, the Hornets had one main goal: See what their team looks like, for an extended period, with a core of Ball, Brandon Miller and Kon Knueppel, the No. 4 pick in June's NBA draft. But two weeks into the season, Miller is out for an indefinite period with a shoulder injury -- after missing most of last year with a wrist injury -- and Ball has missed a couple games with an ankle injury. While Knueppel has impressed, the combination of Miller and Ball being hurt and the No. 6 pick in the 2023 NBA draft, forward Tidjane Salaun, remaining a work in progress, has put a damper on Charlotte's ability to move this franchise in a positive direction.

All of it, though, begins with Ball, an extraordinary talent who has people around the league questioning whether the sum will ever equal the many intriguing parts: a 6-7 frame, deep shooting range and incredible playmaking vision and open floor ability.

"He still doesn't know who he is," a Western Conference scout said. "But I think you can justify buying into the talent."

That is why trying to come up with a proper gauge of Ball's trade value is nearly impossible. He has played in just 58.1% of Charlotte's games since being drafted No. 3 in 2020, and outside of one blowout loss in a play-in game, the Hornets haven't sniffed the playoffs.

"Yes, he's talented, but he doesn't take basketball seriously enough," another West scout said. "It's hard to build a winner with him because of how he plays, and the liberties he takes for himself when he plays.

"Would someone take a flier on him? For sure. But Charlotte isn't taking a flier price for him."

Then this comment included under the Windhorst compliments relative to our rookies, this relative to Melo:

As for Ball...

"If you're asking me if Trae, Ja and LaMelo all came onto the trade market tomorrow, I think LaMelo would have the best market," one executive said. "But that's all hypothetical right now."
I continue to wait...and hope...for the return to Hornet's glory.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#1025 » by JMAC3 » Fri Nov 7, 2025 3:20 pm

AD would be a better fit than Zion in my opinion.
Neither plays, but Davis is a better fit.
He elevates the defense a lot more than Zion.
Better shooter.
Can actually play Center.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#1026 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Nov 7, 2025 4:07 pm

JMAC3 wrote:AD would be a better fit than Zion in my opinion.
Neither plays, but Davis is a better fit.
He elevates the defense a lot more than Zion.
Better shooter.
Can actually play Center.

AD would definitely fit, but the injury concerns of LaMelo/Miller/AD wouldn't scare you?

It's almost a guarantee 1 of them will be out with some kind of injury.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#1027 » by JMAC3 » Fri Nov 7, 2025 4:19 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
JMAC3 wrote:AD would be a better fit than Zion in my opinion.
Neither plays, but Davis is a better fit.
He elevates the defense a lot more than Zion.
Better shooter.
Can actually play Center.

AD would definitely fit, but the injury concerns of LaMelo/Miller/AD wouldn't scare you?

It's almost a guarantee 1 of them will be out with some kind of injury.


It does, but at a certain point I would be willing to risk trading for a top 15 talent.
If we are going to be good we will need to have LaMelo and Brandon healthy either way.
If they are out we will be bad either way.

So yeah if we trade for Sabonis or Sengun or Davis or Bam or whoever... we still need Melo and Miller to be healthy. If that is the case I would just hope it all works out and get the best player out of the group. Especially if I am getting a discount for age/injury concerns.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#1028 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Nov 7, 2025 7:31 pm

WT saying teams are monitoring JJJ if Memphis decides to blow it up.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#1029 » by Braggins » Sat Nov 8, 2025 9:39 am

I wonder how what picks would need to be packaged with Miles to get Nic Claxton from the Nets. Ditto for Mann + McNeeley for PJ Washington.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#1030 » by JDR720 » Sat Nov 8, 2025 9:57 am

I don't see a point in Claxton. Moussa is averaging similar stats (minus assists) in 10 fewer minutes per game, and I don't want to bench Kalk either.

PJ would fit well here, but I don't think he'd be happy at all about coming back.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#1031 » by Braggins » Sat Nov 8, 2025 6:20 pm

I think people might be getting a little too attached to borderline players. The Hornets still have one of the 5 worst center rotations in the league.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#1032 » by fatlever » Sat Nov 8, 2025 7:05 pm

Claxton does little to change anything. We aren't losing because of our centers.
We need forward depth.

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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#1033 » by Braggins » Sat Nov 8, 2025 7:14 pm

Yeah, this team is great. Their only weakness is forward depth and they dont' need upgrades at any other positions.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#1034 » by JustBuzzin » Sat Nov 8, 2025 7:15 pm

Whatever extra picks they can get for LaMelo is only setting us up for a big deal down the line. We already have enough assets to go after a big name player. It's all about timing at this point.

The new core Miller/Kon/Kalk/Sion is what they want to establish for the new culture.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#1035 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Nov 8, 2025 7:23 pm

Braggins wrote:Yeah, this team is great. Their only weakness is forward depth and they dont' need upgrades at any other positions.


lol I see what you’re doing here.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#1036 » by Braggins » Sat Nov 8, 2025 7:32 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
Braggins wrote:Yeah, this team is great. Their only weakness is forward depth and they dont' need upgrades at any other positions.


lol I see what you’re doing here.

I'm not trying to go all in Claxton, but I think it would be hugely beneficial if they could add a couple guys like PJ and Claxton/Gafford as long as they kept enough of their draft capital to still be set up for a big splash trade down the line.

If they could get PJ + Claxton for a total of a couple 1sts (they have all their own 1sts + four extras from other teams) and however many 2nds I'd be intrigued.

starters: LaMelo ~ Kon ~ Miller ~ PJ ~ Claxton
bench5: Sexton ~ Sion ~ Green ~ Grant ~ Kalk
depth: Conn ~ Moose

They would be more competitive imo but would likely still be in reasonable contention for a good pick from the 2026 draft because of how long its probably going to take to actually get all these guys healthy (will Grant even return this season?). They have so much draft capital to play around with they might as well pick up some solid guys if they have the opportunity imo.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#1037 » by SWedd523 » Sat Nov 8, 2025 7:51 pm

Braggins loves him some PJ

(I don't think PJ is moving any **** needles either)


I also don't think Center is a strength. They offer no floor spacing, no scoring, and opposing bigs and teams still seem to score fairly reliably in the paint.

Kalk is definitely doing better than I expected but it's still a weaker rotation than most teams they play.

4 spot being shambles also doesn't do much to relieve the pressure on them.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#1038 » by Liver_Pooty » Sat Nov 8, 2025 7:57 pm

Teams doing stupid **** like trading 4 or 5 future first rounders for players like bane and Mikal bridges (good players but damn) will make it almost impossible to trade for a JJJ unless we give up our entire future, and we’re not close to making a trade like that in my opinion.
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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#1039 » by fatlever » Sat Nov 8, 2025 7:59 pm

SWedd523 wrote:Braggins loves him some PJ

(I don't think PJ is moving any **** needles either)


I also don't think Center is a strength. They offer no floor spacing, no scoring, and opposing bigs and teams still seem to score fairly reliably in the paint.

Kalk is definitely doing better than I expected but it's still a weaker rotation than most teams they play.

4 spot being shambles also doesn't do much to relieve the pressure on them.
Right, but Claxton doesn't change that.

Go for a center that truly changes our profile. Claxton is a marginal upgrade.

Otherwise target forward depth


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Re: Fake Trade Thread #7 

Post#1040 » by fatlever » Sat Nov 8, 2025 8:00 pm

I'd swap pj for miles in a nanosecond.

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