OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread

Eoghan · Post #1041 » by **Eoghan** » Tue Mar 5, 2013 9:17 pm

I'm more than fine with MKG's production this year. His whole game revolves around his high motor so until he gets used to the rigors of an NBA game season he won't put up numbers to justify his selection. I think he'll fill up the stat sheet next year once his stamina is adjusted.

countryboi · Post #1042 » by **countryboi** » Tue Mar 5, 2013 9:56 pm

MountBiyombo wrote:
fatlever wrote:
Kemba2Hendo wrote:17 and 10 is not bad for a "bust".

he played with a level of energy and aggressiveness that we havent seen in a few months. THAT kind of effort is what will make MKG a valuable player and worthy of a high pick. if he doesnt bring that intensity, then he is merely a role player, at least until he further develops the rest of his game.

Fats if anybody surprises me with their high expectations it is you. Did you actually expect Micheal to play like the number two pick in his first year? How could you of all people with your years watching players come and go honestly have thought that about a nineteen year old with no jumper?

countryboi wrote:I dont care if he cant hit a jump shot i just want that aggressiveness..

No one can be aggressive 82 games in their rookie year. That is just another completely unrealistic expectation. These kids are athletes not machines.

I what now because he score 17 points last night he is too tired to shoot jumpers and grab rebounds tomorrow night? thats bull....MKG didnt do anything last night that he cant do every game and its not unrealistic to ask him to go out and be aggressive every night. his entire game is predicated on his energy if he cant give us that he is useless

MasterIchiro · Post #1043 » by **MasterIchiro** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 1:37 am

I am happy for him (and us) when he has games like this. He was a #2 pick so...

If he can become a 17/10 guy then I'd be the first one to bow to all the believers. I'm a Bobcats fan, remember?

ball teacher · Post #1044 » by **ball teacher** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 2:43 am

MKG is playing pretty much as well as he can knowing his skill set and when you see the type of offense this team plays. The Bobcats have shoot first guards and his offensive abilities aren't as that of a Bradley Beal or a Harrison Barnes who would've been able to come in and produce on the offensive side of the game more consistently than MKG, but when you see how MKG can play defense, rebound, get steals, make plays for others and still score you have to be high on this guy for the future.

When he get's a little more experience, a real coach, a pure PG, and the team utilises some ball movement, MKG's scoring should go up. I wouldn't be worried about MKG, he's probably the best overall player on the team and he's a 19 year old rookie that's only played half of one season.

TheKingofSting · Post #1045 » by **TheKingofSting** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 3:29 am

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... 01&y2=2013

I like this comparison.

LamarMatic7 · Post #1046 » by **LamarMatic7** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 8:23 pm

Kemba2Hendo wrote:http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=denglu01&y1=2005&p2=kiddgmi01&y2=2013

I like this comparison.

That wouldn't be bad at all.. Nice find.

HornetJail · Post #1047 » by **HornetJail** » Wed Mar 6, 2013 8:38 pm

I think Deng peaked in his third year. If MKG peaks in his third year I'll be quite sad.

Although that is a pretty decent comparison but Deng decided he needed to take more shots while not being a real perimeter threat. Deng had no outside shot until a couple years ago, but in his third year still managed 18+ ppg on 50%+ shooting while only taking 7 threes on the entire year, making just one, a success story from a similar player who originally had perimeter shooting issues.

Post #1048 » by **fatlever** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 12:12 am

deng may have only taken 8 threes in his 3rd season, but not fair to say he had perimeter shooting issues. he just wasnt a 3pt shooter. deng has always had a very reliable mid-range jumper. he shot 43% on jumpers that season, including 44% on 500+ shots taken between 16-24 feet. from the same distance he shot 39% as a rookie on 175 attempts. his jumper was light years ahead of MKGs at the same age.

HornetJail · Post #1049 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 2:54 am

From what I saw from the early 2nd half onwards, MKG was playing some good ball, I think he's coming back to his early season form.

Found this gem on the T&T board.

Blkbrd671 wrote:horrible trade for NY. If Amare's going out, MKG should be coming back

Liver_Pooty · Post #1050 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:02 am

Anyone else find it humorous on Bonnells twitter that MKGs foul are an issue and then another guy states that over the course of the season he has averaged 2.1 fouls over 25.7 mpg?

I didn't fact check this as it seems that he hasn't averaged that many minutes a game and Im too lazy to look

HornetJail · Post #1051 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:05 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Anyone else find it humorous on Bonnells twitter that MKGs foul are an issue and then another guy states that over the course of the season he has averaged 2.1 fouls over 25.7 mpg?

I didn't fact check this as it seems that he hasn't averaged that many minutes a game and Im too lazy to look

That sounds about right actually. Every night he doesn't get into foul trouble, he usually doesn't even pick one up.

SWedd523 · Post #1052 » by **SWedd523** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:20 am

Biz Gilwalker wrote:Found this gem on the T&T board.
Blkbrd671 wrote:horrible trade for NY. If Amare's going out, MKG should be coming back

Same one who got roasted on the rookie thread for being a doofus

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=1229666&start=780#p34995303

start there :lol:

thruthefire · Post #1053 » by **thruthefire** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 3:24 am

fatlever wrote:deng may have only taken 8 threes in his 3rd season, but not fair to say he had perimeter shooting issues. he just wasnt a 3pt shooter. deng has always had a very reliable mid-range jumper. he shot 43% on jumpers that season, including 44% on 500+ shots taken between 16-24 feet. from the same distance he shot 39% as a rookie on 175 attempts. his jumper was light years ahead of MKGs at the same age.

Deng, though, has gone from being a very good mid-range shooter to a pretty bad one. If MKG has a similar career, it would be at least somewhat disappointing.

BlackOutBuzz · Post #1054 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 4:44 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Anyone else find it humorous on Bonnells twitter that MKGs foul are an issue and then another guy states that over the course of the season he has averaged 2.1 fouls over 25.7 mpg?

I didn't fact check this as it seems that he hasn't averaged that many minutes a game and Im too lazy to look

That was me

Here's my source: http://espn.go.com/nba/player/gamelog/_ ... -gilchrist

It's divided by month, but If you scroll to the bottom you can see his season stats: 2.1 in 25.7 minutes. His minutes by month (rounded): 27-28-25-21-28. So he played a good bit less last month, so it's fresh to us.

I also sent him Fat's "Gordon missed 7 of last 9" comment, didn't get a response to either.

Elden Payton · Post #1055 » by **Elden Payton** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 4:48 am

Tricky needs to retire.

TheKingofSting · Post #1056 » by **TheKingofSting** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 5:02 am

MKG needs to cut this type of good play out, it is frowned upon in this establishment!

Liver_Pooty wrote:Anyone else find it humorous on Bonnells twitter that MKGs foul are an issue and then another guy states that over the course of the season he has averaged 2.1 fouls over 25.7 mpg?

I didn't fact check this as it seems that he hasn't averaged that many minutes a game and Im too lazy to look

All you had to do is click on the comparison in my post a few posts above yours. :roll:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... 01&y2=2013

TheKingofSting · Post #1057 » by **TheKingofSting** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 5:07 am

thruthefire wrote:
fatlever wrote:deng may have only taken 8 threes in his 3rd season, but not fair to say he had perimeter shooting issues. he just wasnt a 3pt shooter. deng has always had a very reliable mid-range jumper. he shot 43% on jumpers that season, including 44% on 500+ shots taken between 16-24 feet. from the same distance he shot 39% as a rookie on 175 attempts. his jumper was light years ahead of MKGs at the same age.

Deng, though, has gone from being a very good mid-range shooter to a pretty bad one. If MKG has a similar career, it would be at least somewhat disappointing.

So you would be disappointed if he averages nearly 19 PPG in his third season??

HornetJail · Post #1058 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 6:07 am

I'd be disappointed if he peaked in his third season, regressed a tiny bit and then stagnated for 6-8 years.

I prefer Shawn Marion's career path.

BlackOutBuzz · Post #1059 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 7:07 pm

New Sheridan Hoops rookie ranking.

1. Lillard
2. Beal
3. Waiters
4. Davis
5. Harkless
6. MKG
7. Barnes
8. Singler
9. Nicholson
10. Motiejunas

Kembastockton · Post #1060 » by **Kembastockton** » Thu Mar 7, 2013 7:40 pm

I what now because he score 17 points last night he is too tired to shoot jumpers and grab rebounds tomorrow night? thats bull....MKG didnt do anything last night that he cant do every game and its not unrealistic to ask him to go out and be aggressive every night. his entire game is predicated on his energy if he cant give us that he is useless

If his entire game is built on energy doesn't it stand to reason that he must be tired when he doesn't play with energy?