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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#1041 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Feb 7, 2013 1:03 am

MountBiyombo wrote:The Cats are more likely to trade this pick for a vet than to move up for MCW.


I don't disagree with that. And while PG is currently a deep position that depth is merely temporary as Sessions is worth 8 million per year. So I'm taking the long range view with the point guard position and I'm envisioning MCW as the perfect compliment to Kemba, not a scorer, not a starter, but the best playmaker in the draft.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#1042 » by Kembastockton » Thu Feb 7, 2013 1:12 am

MasterIchiro wrote:
MountBiyombo wrote:The Cats are more likely to trade this pick for a vet than to move up for MCW.


I don't disagree with that. And while PG is currently a deep position that depth is merely temporary as Sessions is worth 8 million per year. So I'm taking the long range view with the point guard position and I'm envisioning MCW as the perfect compliment to Kemba, not a scorer, not a starter, but the best playmaker in the draft.


I understand where you are coming from, but 10 is to high to draft a player with the intent of making him a backup. Especially at the expense of trading a starter and a first round pick. Who are you planning to trade to get INSIDE THE TOP TEN of the lottery? You only make that trade for a player you plan to be a starter.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#1043 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Feb 7, 2013 1:32 am

Although MCW would be a bench player for me he'd log more minutes than most bench players because McLemore will be a rookie, Gordon's on his way out and McLemore (or Shabazz) can see some minutes at the 3.

And I would look to trade our short term soon-to-be-too-expensive backup PG + 15 to let's say Dallas for 10, then use 10 to select a long term backup PG to sustain depth at a crucial position and add a player who compliments the roster nicely and adds versatility to player rotations for a long time.

I think we'd be better with the best playmaker in the draft given his potential role stated above vs. a project big - mid first rounder.

I like some of the bigs in this draft, but not at 10 and certainly not at 14 or 15.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#1044 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Feb 7, 2013 1:57 am

MasterIchiro wrote:Although MCW would be a bench player for me he'd log more minutes than most bench players because McLemore will be a rookie, Gordon's on his way out and McLemore (or Shabazz) can see some minutes at the 3.

And I would look to trade our short term soon-to-be-too-expensive backup PG + 15 to let's say Dallas for 10, then use 10 to select a long term backup PG to sustain depth at a crucial position and add a player who compliments the roster nicely and adds versatility to player rotations for a long time.

I think we'd be better with the best playmaker in the draft given his potential role stated above vs. a project big - mid first rounder.

I like some of the bigs in this draft, but not at 10 and certainly not at 14 or 15.


You don't draft a player 10 overall to be a long term backup
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Post#1045 » by Badd_Intentions » Thu Feb 7, 2013 1:59 am

Think MCW getting caught shoplifting would come into play with Cho possibly drafting him?
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#1046 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Feb 7, 2013 2:15 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:Although MCW would be a bench player for me he'd log more minutes than most bench players because McLemore will be a rookie, Gordon's on his way out and McLemore (or Shabazz) can see some minutes at the 3.

And I would look to trade our short term soon-to-be-too-expensive backup PG + 15 to let's say Dallas for 10, then use 10 to select a long term backup PG to sustain depth at a crucial position and add a player who compliments the roster nicely and adds versatility to player rotations for a long time.

I think we'd be better with the best playmaker in the draft given his potential role stated above vs. a project big - mid first rounder.

I like some of the bigs in this draft, but not at 10 and certainly not at 14 or 15.


You don't draft a player 10 overall to be a long term backup


Right, you don't, not a prototypical backup anyways.
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Post#1047 » by catch20two » Thu Feb 7, 2013 2:22 am

If we're going to trade up to draft a tall PG to complement Kemba it's going to be Marcus Smart way before MCW.
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Post#1048 » by Badd_Intentions » Thu Feb 7, 2013 2:27 am

If we want smart it's gonna have to be with our 1st pick
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Post#1049 » by catch20two » Thu Feb 7, 2013 2:45 am

This Kansas-TCU game is looking like a LOLcats game and I turned to it expecting to see the best scorer currently in college basketball.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#1050 » by catch20two » Thu Feb 7, 2013 2:46 am

Badd_Intentions wrote:If we want smart it's gonna have to be with our 1st pick

I've seen recent draft boards have Smart as far back as #15. It's possible that he ends up in the late lottery.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#1051 » by BigSlam » Thu Feb 7, 2013 3:54 am

Smart reminds me of Stuckey.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#1052 » by catch20two » Thu Feb 7, 2013 4:12 am

BigSlam wrote:Smart reminds me of Stuckey.

Smart is smarter than Stuckey. No pun intended.
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Post#1053 » by -Ian- » Thu Feb 7, 2013 12:08 pm

From Bonnell's article on the Bobcats' horrible performance last night:

The Bobcats have burned through 10 lottery picks in nine drafts with remarkably little to show for it. That’s no one person’s fault. But something has to change.


I hope we can change it this year.
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Post#1054 » by Badd_Intentions » Thu Feb 7, 2013 2:03 pm

I don't see him dropping past 8 or so unless some other guys really turn it up. His intangibles and competitiveness are a special package.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#1055 » by countryboi » Thu Feb 7, 2013 3:57 pm

-Ian- wrote:From Bonnell's article on the Bobcats' horrible performance last night:

The Bobcats have burned through 10 lottery picks in nine drafts with remarkably little to show for it. That’s no one person’s fault. But something has to change.


I hope we can change it this year.


I am going to be blunt about the bobcats drafts....i am sick of projects, raw players, flawed players with intangibles, college winners, hometown heros and tweeners...i just want guy that are gifted and can play is that too much to ask? I dont hate MKG or Biz but I think there were players in these last two drafts that were much better fits and would able to contribute more earlier.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#1056 » by catch20two » Thu Feb 7, 2013 4:50 pm

countryboi wrote:I am going to be blunt about the bobcats drafts....i am sick of projects, raw players, flawed players with intangibles, college winners, hometown heros and tweeners...i just want guy that are gifted and can play is that too much to ask? I dont hate MKG or Biz but I think there were players in these last two drafts that were much better fits and would able to contribute more earlier.

If you're sick of projects, raw players, flawed players with intangibles, college winners, hometown heroes and tweeners then you must want to draft Shabazz Muhammad and I don't see nothing wrong with that.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#1057 » by misterglover » Thu Feb 7, 2013 5:04 pm

countryboi wrote:I am going to be blunt about the bobcats drafts....i am sick of projects, raw players, flawed players with intangibles, college winners, hometown heros and tweeners...i just want guy that are gifted and can play is that too much to ask? I dont hate MKG or Biz but I think there were players in these last two drafts that were much better fits and would able to contribute more earlier.


:bowdown: :bowdown:....... Ditto, we always pass over what is to me the better players and go w/ a project...just once I would like to get a player that can contribute right away or you can atleast see thats he's gonna be a good one.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#1058 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Feb 7, 2013 6:25 pm

Off the top of my head:

Okafor
Morrison
Felton
May
Brandon Wright (traded)
Augustin
Henderson
Kemba
Biz
MKG

Kemba is the lone player who stands out as a bedrock type player.
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Re: 2013 NBA draft prospects chatter 

Post#1059 » by SWedd523 » Thu Feb 7, 2013 6:34 pm

misterglover wrote:
countryboi wrote:I am going to be blunt about the bobcats drafts....i am sick of projects, raw players, flawed players with intangibles, college winners, hometown heros and tweeners...i just want guy that are gifted and can play is that too much to ask? I dont hate MKG or Biz but I think there were players in these last two drafts that were much better fits and would able to contribute more earlier.


:bowdown: :bowdown:....... Ditto, we always pass over what is to me the better players and go w/ a project...just once I would like to get a player that can contribute right away or you can atleast see thats he's gonna be a good one.

.... okay then, who should we have drafted if we don't allow projects, raw players, flawed players with intangibles, college winners, hometown heroes, or tweeners?


Better yet, what specific category of player doesn't fit into a single one of those?
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Post#1060 » by HornetJail » Thu Feb 7, 2013 6:34 pm

SWedd523 wrote:.... okay then, who should we have drafted if we don't allow projects, raw players, flawed players with intangibles, college winners, hometown heroes, or tweeners?


Better yet, what specific category of player doesn't fit into a single one of those?




The Andrew Wiggins category.
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