Don't Be Hurtin' Lin - The Jeremy Lin Thread 2

[bws94]

Lin is turning into a journeyman, so he may consider settling down on a winning team as a quality bench player. That's up to him. But he isn't some scrub. That's overly harsh. And he just took a pay cut to seem underpaid. He was considered overpaid/over-rated for 3 years and felt big pressure so I don't blame him. He's made his money anyway and can for sure make more.

[Vae Victus]

If he's willing to "settle" on his current career status, then i guess i hope his hardcore fan base just up and forget his ass cuz all its gonna do is cause alot of heartbreak. I've pretty much accepted it now that it seems pretty clear that both he and this club has little to no faith in him being an high impact player. Damn preseason sure got my hopes up, but such is life, if he had a modicum of self respect he'd at least fire his agent for letting him sign the lowball deal on a club that basically treats him like trash. IIRC Ed Davis fired his agent after that 1 painful year in LA, he didnt really get the PT and touches he deserved, thanks to Byron's tanking, and sadly Lin didnt have the foresight to understand that such risks are stupidly risky unless youre really a sub MLE level player.

[bws94]

His personal story is what it is but I'm looking at him as a basketball player. My theory is Lin definitely is an impact player but when he plays with guys who have more skills, he then is the secret weapon. I think on the Hornets, in later game situations, when Kemba and Batum are being loaded on, in comes Lin and makes big plays and buckets. That's a huge impact. I'm not going into his personal choices, it's his life and career and maybe at the end of the day they work for him or don't. He'll assess that down the road. Right now, I'm happy to see him in a friendly low-key city with good teammates, a good coach and being further integrated into the team's offense.

[13th Man]

If he's willing to "settle" on his current career status, then i guess i hope his hardcore fan base just up and forget his ass cuz all its gonna do is cause alot of heartbreak. I've pretty much accepted it now that it seems pretty clear that both he and this club has little to no faith in him being an high impact player. Damn preseason sure got my hopes up, but such is life, if he had a modicum of self respect he'd at least fire his agent for letting him sign the lowball deal on a club that basically treats him like trash. IIRC Ed Davis fired his agent after that 1 painful year in LA, he didnt really get the PT and touches he deserved, thanks to Byron's tanking, and sadly Lin didnt have the foresight to understand that such risks are stupidly risky unless youre really a sub MLE level player.

The season's only a quarter of the way through, still lots of ball left to play. Something's wrong with his shot but if he can fix that he can maybe gain a bit more leverage on this team. As for being treated like trash I don't think it's that bad, a lot of that is on him as well. His shooting has been subpar, plus Kemba has been consistently outplaying him so it's difficult to gain leverage when that happens. Also, he should've realized that he was never going to supersede Kemba anyways, so he should've been prepared to play 1/2 PG, 1/2 SG. As a SG, you have to hit your shots and he hasn't been doing that, so that's on him.

Anyhow, it's not the time for him to re-evaluate his decision right now, that'll happen at the end of the season. All he can do until then is try his best to help the team win (which the team IS winning so things could certainly be a lot worse).

[fatlever]

one of my favorite sites, brobible is clowning on Lin and his new hairdo. Not cool man, not cool.
http://brobible.com/sports/article/jeremy-lin-man-bun/

[Vae Victus]

Good god, wtf is that. He needs to knock off the juvenile hairdo bull and up his goddamn game. Once he's "made it" then he can go ahead and try to differentiate himself from others by acting out. I swear it's like he's trying to be all "different" when quite frankly being the only asian in basketball is all the "different" he needs. I guess being FAR away from his folks has given him the guts to goof off more or act like a fool or something.

There's a funny saying around my part of (asian dominated) town. Yea, go ahead and be a drug abuser, alcoholic, womanizer, douchebag, or whatever, but by god you better better a successful son of a bitch who's DOMINATED whatever you're field in. Lin in the eyes of alot of asian americans has lost alot of cred cuz he's basically a no one now. Linsanity was awesome cuz he was SOMETHING, noticed, and appreciated. Asians dont give two **** for those of us that come in 2nd place. Honestly that's the chip we need to carry on our shoulders to stand out and get far in our lives, it's quite literally beaten into most of us.

[TinmanZBoy]

Good god, wtf is that. He needs to knock off the juvenile hairdo bull and up his goddamn game. Once he's "made it" then he can go ahead and try to differentiate himself from others by acting out. I swear it's like he's trying to be all "different" when quite frankly being the only asian in basketball is all the "different" he needs. I guess being FAR away from his folks has given him the guts to goof off more or act like a fool or something.

There's a funny saying around my part of (asian dominated) town. Yea, go ahead and be a drug abuser, alcoholic, womanizer, douchebag, or whatever, but by god you better better a successful son of a bitch who's DOMINATED whatever you're field in. Lin in the eyes of alot of asian americans has lost alot of cred cuz he's basically a no one now. Linsanity was awesome cuz he was SOMETHING, noticed, and appreciated. Asians dont give two **** for those of us that come in 2nd place. Honestly that's the chip we need to carry on our shoulders to stand out and get far in our lives, it's quite literally beaten into most of us.

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[Kswiss]

Good god, wtf is that. He needs to knock off the juvenile hairdo bull and up his goddamn game. Once he's "made it" then he can go ahead and try to differentiate himself from others by acting out. I swear it's like he's trying to be all "different" when quite frankly being the only asian in basketball is all the "different" he needs. I guess being FAR away from his folks has given him the guts to goof off more or act like a fool or something.

There's a funny saying around my part of (asian dominated) town. Yea, go ahead and be a drug abuser, alcoholic, womanizer, douchebag, or whatever, but by god you better better a successful son of a bitch who's DOMINATED whatever you're field in. Lin in the eyes of alot of asian americans has lost alot of cred cuz he's basically a no one now. Linsanity was awesome cuz he was SOMETHING, noticed, and appreciated. Asians dont give two **** for those of us that come in 2nd place. Honestly that's the chip we need to carry on our shoulders to stand out and get far in our lives, it's quite literally beaten into most of us.

Chill out dude, he's in the NBA making millions of dollars on a winning team lol. He is a solid player in the NBA, that's rarer than getting struck by lightning

[ChokeFasncists]

Just wished he had more freedom to do stuff, its as if he's never proven he's played well before. The way he's playing its like he's some scrub journeymen who has to follow coaches orders to the tee or get yanked. Well.... he's getting paid like one, so i guess it's fitting.

It's a learning curve. I think it's good for him in the long run. Getting rid of the bad habits developed under bad coaches, it's gonna take some time.

[yosemiteben]

Lin in the eyes of alot of asian americans has lost alot of cred cuz he's basically a no one now. Linsanity was awesome cuz he was SOMETHING, noticed, and appreciated. Asians dont give two **** for those of us that come in 2nd place. Honestly that's the chip we need to carry on our shoulders to stand out and get far in our lives, it's quite literally beaten into most of us.

There is just so much wrong with this it's embarrassing.

[gafun]

Lin has being great on defense including steal, rebound and forcing TOs. His PG skills are more mature. His shooting is a bit off (is anything to do with his hair?). Otherwise, his overall skills are better than Linsenity time. He might never have Linsenity again. But this is nothing to do with his individual skills. It was created in a "perfect storm" where Knicks had no better choice , he got freedom and minutes to play his crazy style and he had some teammates perfectly matched his style (PnR and 3pt scorers) , completely unselfish and trust to their D league PG. No one should expect he would have the perfect storm again. But he should be a very good PG or role player next season for several teams if he wouldn't stay with Hornets for whatever reason. I wish he could stay in Hornets because he seems happy with the city and teammates. He is certainly a part of success so far for the team. He will be more likely getting better from this point (avg FG %).


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[bws94]

Lin in the eyes of alot of asian americans has lost alot of cred cuz he's basically a no one now. Linsanity was awesome cuz he was SOMETHING, noticed, and appreciated. Asians dont give two **** for those of us that come in 2nd place. Honestly that's the chip we need to carry on our shoulders to stand out and get far in our lives, it's quite literally beaten into most of us.

There is just so much wrong with this it's embarrassing.

I like passion but there's a lot of projection going on there. He's a basketball player first with his own way of doing things. Yeah, he represents the NBA and looks a little different and a huge population in the world follows him and admires him, but he's an American basketball player with his own priorities.

[ils411]

There's a funny saying around my part of (asian dominated) town. Yea, go ahead and be a drug abuser, alcoholic, womanizer, douchebag, or whatever, but by god you better better a successful son of a bitch who's DOMINATED whatever you're field in. Lin in the eyes of alot of asian americans has lost alot of cred cuz he's basically a no one now. Linsanity was awesome cuz he was SOMETHING, noticed, and appreciated. Asians dont give two **** for those of us that come in 2nd place. Honestly that's the chip we need to carry on our shoulders to stand out and get far in our lives, it's quite literally beaten into most of us.

wow, a town that is asian dominated woohooo...

here i thought its an asian town...in asia...

fakers gonna fake. stir stir stir the pot lalalalala

[Vae Victus]

If people ever bothered reading my posts, my background was pretty much spelled out, as is the reason for my fandom of Lin.

Honestly i've alot more in common with him than 99.9% of his "fans" out there and do i fall into the projection trap at times. Abso-damn-lutely. The goddamn saddest thing to me right now is watching practically all of my family and friends, who were huge fans, not give 2 **** about Lin anymore since he's basically a nobody now. This is sadly the Chinese/Asian mindset and for those of you who want to mock it, feel free, cuz it IS **** ridiculous. But trust me, THIS was Lin's mindset when he was breaking into the NBA, THIS was the chip on his shoulder that kept him going despite all odds until he got a chance to be somebody. I guess somewhere along the way he lost the fire and now here he is, a meek bench player who's just "happy" to be somewhere to "accept" him.

Edit: Goddamnit i keep telling myself not to get fired up over this scrub. Old habits die hard.

[Vae Victus]

Lin in the eyes of alot of asian americans has lost alot of cred cuz he's basically a no one now. Linsanity was awesome cuz he was SOMETHING, noticed, and appreciated. Asians dont give two **** for those of us that come in 2nd place. Honestly that's the chip we need to carry on our shoulders to stand out and get far in our lives, it's quite literally beaten into most of us.

There is just so much wrong with this it's embarrassing.

You're not Asian-American and understanding the full picture of how we tick and how we let ourselves get caught up on the silliest and stupidest things. It's like non blacks asking why black people get so angry when people call them n##gers, it's just a hateful slur, so ignore the racist scum, that's it! There's the historical undertones, actual reality, and thus how the word got its power in eliciting such a strong reaction.

wow, a town that is asian dominated woohooo...

here i thought its an asian town...in asia...

fakers gonna fake. stir stir stir the pot lalalalala

Hey, did you do know that America is a multi cultural nation? Full of people of different ethnicities who often congregate together in numbers to form communities that mostly contain their own people. That there are numerous towns and municipalities out there that actually comprise >50% of the resident population being people of foreign born descent, whether they be immigrants or children of.

So now you know! There's actually places OUTSIDE of Asia that can be dominated by Asians! Isn't knowledge grand!

[bws94]

Oh, so Lin has bandwagon fans too. LOL. Welcome to the club, Jeremy.

[EwingSweatsALot]

He didn't lose the fire. That's not why he's a backup. He's a backup because Linsanity wasn't a true depiction of what he was as a basketball player. That was never going to be him.

The funny thing is that the people that are complaining Lin is a nobody are more than likely the real nobody's. This guy has made millions upon millions of dollars from basketball to endorsements. Plays in the best basketball league in the world, a focal point of a 2nd place team, but he's a nobody?

I guess he should just go be the best calligrapher around and do wedding invitations for the rest of his life. More people would know him. I mean ****. Better than being a multi millionaire NBA "nobody".

[bws94]

He didn't lose the fire. That's not why he's a backup. He's a backup because Linsanity wasn't a true depiction of what he was as a basketball player. That was never going to be him.

The funny thing is that the people that are complaining Lin is a nobody are more than likely the real nobody's. This guy has made millions upon millions of dollars from basketball to endorsements. Plays in the best basketball league in the world, a focal point of a 2nd place team, but he's a nobody?

I guess he should just go be the best calligrapher around and do wedding invitations for the rest of his life. More people would know him. I mean ****. Better than being a multi millionaire NBA "nobody".

He could start for a losing team. But seems Lin would rather win or have a chance to win. There are guys starting on this team that get less playing time than Lin and don't close as many games. I don't know what some people want. Lin is on a new team and seems to be getting progressively more usage where I sit. Maybe I'm missing something. And Lin's shot hasn't even started to fall for him yet. He left his shot in preseason.

Lin may be that X factor guy, catches fire when needed like OT of the Kings game. He looked pretty fired up that game, but not as much as Marvin Williams did for him, lol.

[Vae Victus]

He didn't lose the fire. That's not why he's a backup. He's a backup because Linsanity wasn't a true depiction of what he was as a basketball player. That was never going to be him.

The funny thing is that the people that are complaining Lin is a nobody are more than likely the real nobody's. This guy has made millions upon millions of dollars from basketball to endorsements. Plays in the best basketball league in the world, a focal point of a 2nd place team, but he's a nobody?

I guess he should just go be the best calligrapher around and do wedding invitations for the rest of his life. More people would know him. I mean ****. Better than being a multi millionaire NBA "nobody".

He could start for a losing team. But seems Lin would rather win or have a chance to win. There are guys starting on this team that get less playing time than Lin and don't close as many games. I don't know what some people want. Lin is on a new team and seems to be getting progressively more usage where I sit. Maybe I'm missing something. And Lin's shot hasn't even started to fall for him yet. He left his shot in preseason.

Lin may be that X factor guy, catches fire when needed like OT of the Kings game. He looked pretty fired up that game, but not as much as Marvin Williams did for him, lol.

Ewing i disagree in regards to the fire part, for the multitude of reasons i've likely ranted on over the past coupla months. Also using your calligrapher example to show you how wrong you are. If Lin, or anyone really, was one of THE BEST Wedding calligraphers around he'd make alot of money and get plenty fame in that field. Remember just because YOU or your culture doesnt give 2 craps about calligraphy doesnt mean the rest of the people in the world out there dont. And for Asian's that's actually pretty damn respectable job field, with deep cultural undertones and sophistication. That ace calligrapher in Asian circles would be alot more respected than a bench NBA player, despite his yearly income was lower.

BWS, i hope your right and that things will eventually get better. Despite the invective i constantly sling at Lin i still dearly want him to succeed. I guess for me the real litmus test is when Lin's shot starts falling will he be treated differently or not. It's gonna be real interesting to see how Cliff is gonna square that one when the time comes.

[lin is ok]

Ehhhh.. Linsainty was he was given the keys to run a team. Its not like he screwed up and got the keys taken away. That chance to run the offence just disappeared due to melo coming back. Anyway as lin fans we just want to see lin run the 2nd unit get given a fair break at it. Give him the tools ro suceed and help the team. Right now its not happening . He given these role in the rockets and lakers . I hope that clifford will come round to let this happen.