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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1061 » by ball teacher » Thu Mar 7, 2013 9:44 pm

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I what now because he score 17 points last night he is too tired to shoot jumpers and grab rebounds tomorrow night? thats bull....MKG didnt do anything last night that he cant do every game and its not unrealistic to ask him to go out and be aggressive every night. his entire game is predicated on his energy if he cant give us that he is useless


If his entire game is built on energy doesn't it stand to reason that he must be tired when he doesn't play with energy?


I don't think his game is built around energy, I think that's a misconception about him because he busts his tail by playing hard. I think he's more of a slasher/finisher at this point, only problem is we don't have very good ball movement which would really benefit him. With the style of play we have now, a more polished shooter like Harrison Barnes would probably look a litle better if his shots are falling, but what we have in MKG is a pure ball player with all kinds of potential. He's only 19, and he pretty much out played Gerald Wallace yesterday and was strong enough on one play to seal Wallace off with one hand, catch a one handed entry pass and finish with a strong dunk. IMO, All this guy needs is another 2 seasons to be a borderline all star. That is of coure if we have the right coach here to teach the game properly.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1062 » by BlackOutBuzz » Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:40 am

http://espn.go.com/fantasy/basketball/s ... son-impact

MKG featured along with Jason Kidd as a "Top Late-Season Fantasy Pickup." Yeah, it's fantasy, but there's some neat stats here.

"On Monday, Kidd-Gilchrist posted his first double-double since December, dropping 17 points on 8-for-11 shooting along with 10 rebounds, followed it up with another 17-point game on Wednesday and has scored in double digits in six of his past eight games. He entered his rookie season as the youngest player in the league, and if you watch Kidd-Gilchrist play consistently, it's hard to imagine him not blossoming into a stout fantasy force. Plus, there are some encouraging underlying stats: He takes 54.4 percent of his shots at the rim, has averaged at least 1.2 blocks per game in every month this season (besides January) and his total rebound rate (percentage of total rebounds grabbed by a player during his time on the court) of 12.7 ranks fifth among small forwards averaging at least 25 minutes per game. He's learning more with every game and has the tools and opportunity to be an impact fantasy player in multiple categories for the stretch run."
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Post#1063 » by Snidely FC » Fri Mar 8, 2013 3:01 pm

MKG finding his way back
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist suffered a concussion when he ran into teammate Jeffery Taylor on Feb. 2 and up until recently the small forward's production had dramatically dropped off. Kidd-Gilchrist doesn't like to use the concussion for his struggles, however it did affect him.

“I think it was a big deal,” Kidd-Gilchrist told The Charlotte Observer. “I was hurt. I’m trying to bounce back right now, still.”

Kidd-Gilchrist will use the duration of this season and the summer to work on his game, especially his jump shot.

“I’m working on it daily – in the nighttime, in the morning,” Kidd-Gilchrist said. “I’m more comfortable. But I have a lot more work to do still.”

Kidd-Gilchrist is one of the hardest workers in the NBA and his leadership, even as a young rookie, is vital for the Bobcats to move forward. The front office now needs to get him some help in the offseason via a high pick in the draft and free agency.http://insider.espn.go.com/blog/nba/rumors/
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1064 » by fatlever » Fri Mar 8, 2013 4:32 pm

here is link to the original article

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/0 ... s-way.html

The coaching staff works with him constantly on this. Dunlap said fixing that shot is a three-year process, but there has been progress; he now releases the ball from his fingertips, not his palm, and his release point is higher in his jumping motion.

Dunlap encourages Kidd-Gilchrist to shoot whenever he’s open; you don’t get better without testing a skill under game conditions.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/0 ... rylink=cpy


Coach Mike Dunlap has said repeatedly this week that Kidd-Gilchrist is just now truly recovered from his head injury. Dunlap noted that he’s taken two blows to his head – the Houston accident and the kick he took in an earlier game against the New Orleans Hornets that scratched his cornea.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/0 ... rylink=cpy
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1065 » by BlackOutBuzz » Fri Mar 8, 2013 6:36 pm

Shooting from his palm??!? I can't believe he hit anything.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1066 » by KembaWalker » Fri Mar 8, 2013 7:16 pm

hard to believe that Kyrie Irving and MKG had the same coach. Kyrie probably the most NBA ready guy skill wise we've seen in a long time. MKG so raw

i guess it starts a lot earlier than high school though
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Post#1067 » by HornetJail » Fri Mar 8, 2013 7:27 pm

KembaWalker wrote:hard to believe that Kyrie Irving and MKG had the same coach. Kyrie probably the most NBA ready guy skill wise we've seen in a long time. MKG so raw

i guess it starts a lot earlier than high school though

Some people are just faster learners than others. :dontknow:

To be fair Kyrie is an amazing talent and we'd be lucky to get anything similar given what Kyrie is doing.
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Post#1068 » by KembaWalker » Fri Mar 8, 2013 8:41 pm

yeah MKG is more of the raw talent guy probably didn't start getting really noticed and attention till puberty

Kyries dad was a pro, probably teaching him elite fundamentals since birth
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Post#1069 » by Snidely FC » Fri Mar 8, 2013 9:39 pm

fatlever wrote:here is link to the original article

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/0 ... s-way.html

The coaching staff works with him constantly on this. Dunlap said fixing that shot is a three-year process, but there has been progress; he now releases the ball from his fingertips, not his palm, and his release point is higher in his jumping motion.

Dunlap encourages Kidd-Gilchrist to shoot whenever he’s open; you don’t get better without testing a skill under game conditions.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/0 ... rylink=cpy


Coach Mike Dunlap has said repeatedly this week that Kidd-Gilchrist is just now truly recovered from his head injury. Dunlap noted that he’s taken two blows to his head – the Houston accident and the kick he took in an earlier game against the New Orleans Hornets that scratched his cornea.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/0 ... rylink=cpy


See, I don't know whether Dunlap knows what he's DOING, but he sure knows what he's TALKING ABOUT.
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Post#1070 » by Elden Payton » Fri Mar 8, 2013 11:11 pm

Depends what you define skill as, shooting?

MKG is basically above average in every category except for his j and his fundamentals are EXTREMELY sound.

This guy has a very good handle for a SF, footwork, BBIQ, he can pass, he can operate in the post both offensively and defensively.

MKG is a freak prospect imo.
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Post#1071 » by KembaWalker » Fri Mar 8, 2013 11:42 pm

His handles dont particularly impress me he has 1 real move that one handed in n out thing he does. Its hard to judge because his defenders are always sagged off him anyway still. Agree with the rest though
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1072 » by fatlever » Fri Mar 8, 2013 11:51 pm

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/bobcats- ... -gilchrist

i think this is original article about the MKG jumper
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Post#1073 » by Snidely FC » Mon Mar 11, 2013 8:22 pm

PER for top 10 drafted rooks this year:

Andre Drummond 22.35
Anthony Davis 20.95
Damian Lillard 16.62
MKG 14.23
Dion Waiters 13.87
Bradley Beal 13.81
Thomas Robinson 10.78
Harrison Barnes 10.77
Terrance Ross 9.95
Austin Rivers 5.97
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1074 » by JMAC3 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 4:13 am

Snidely FC wrote:PER for top 10 drafted rooks this year:

Andre Drummond 22.35
Anthony Davis 20.95
Damian Lillard 16.62
MKG 14.23
Dion Waiters 13.87
Bradley Beal 13.81
Thomas Robinson 10.78
Harrison Barnes 10.77
Terrance Ross 9.95
Austin Rivers 5.97


But he cant make threes in 2K. I swear people get caught in that part of the game too much. He is so much better rounded then Beal, Barnes, and Waiters, but all people care about is being able to make outside shots.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1075 » by Stun704 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:04 am

I use Mkg as my starting sf in 2k ultimate team. He has the highest motive in the game in 6 min quarters he had 14 pts and 14 rebounds by half time. My opponent quit otherwise he'd probably have 20/20 in under 30 mins
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1076 » by thruthefire » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:41 pm

JMAC3 wrote:
Snidely FC wrote:PER for top 10 drafted rooks this year:

Andre Drummond 22.35
Anthony Davis 20.95
Damian Lillard 16.62
MKG 14.23
Dion Waiters 13.87
Bradley Beal 13.81
Thomas Robinson 10.78
Harrison Barnes 10.77
Terrance Ross 9.95
Austin Rivers 5.97


But he cant make threes in 2K. I swear people get caught in that part of the game too much. He is so much better rounded then Beal, Barnes, and Waiters, but all people care about is being able to make outside shots.


Beal definitely doesn't belong in that sentence. He scores, rebounds and defends. He was so bad early on that his PER is currently marginal, basically the opposite of what happened to MKG.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1077 » by KembaWalker » Tue Mar 12, 2013 5:50 pm

if rookies were judged by their ability in 2k MKG would be an MVP candidate. hes a video game monster even without a jumper. posterizes everyone. he's like a slightly worse LeBron for me in 2k
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1078 » by LamarMatic7 » Sun Mar 17, 2013 3:39 pm

I'm very impressed with his confidence from mid-range as of late. Upon checking out his percentages I found out that he has averaged 3.9 field goal attempts from 16 to 23 feet during the month of March per game. By making 1.7 of them per game, he's shooting at 44.4%. That's huge for him as he was 0.3/1.7 during November, 0.7/2.1 in December, 0.6/2.2 in January and 0.5/1.8 in February.

Let's hope he keeps this up.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1079 » by fatlever » Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:23 pm

lamar, where do you find shooting splits from distance grouped by month? i was never able to find that on bballref.
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Re: OMFKG! The Michael Kidd-Gilchrist Thread 

Post#1080 » by LamarMatic7 » Sun Mar 17, 2013 4:36 pm

fatlever wrote:lamar, where do you find shooting splits from distance grouped by month? i was never able to find that on bballref.

I had always wondered whether it is possible to find them grouped by month and just today found out that hoopdata offers game logs for shot locations.

http://www.hoopdata.com/player.aspx?nam ... .Gilchrist

Click on "splits" for month-by-month stats.
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