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Re: Welcome To The Bobcats: Cody Zeller 

Post#1061 » by JDR720 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:50 am

Cody is shooting 24% from midrange and 51% in the paint for this season
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Re: Welcome To The Bobcats: Cody Zeller 

Post#1062 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Dec 13, 2013 1:51 am

catch20two wrote:
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catch20two wrote:What?!? "more than OK"?!?


I think his form is very good for the most part.


Oh OK. I agree. His form is OK. It's better than David Lee's. Actually I think that's a good parallel to compare him to. I wonder what was the success rate of Lee's jumper as a rookie.


Nice comp, but Lee isn't near the athlete Zeller is, but he's built pretty solid, and that's something Zeller needs to work on even during the season.
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Re: Welcome To The Bobcats: Cody Zeller 

Post#1063 » by catch20two » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:09 am

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I think his form is very good for the most part.


Oh OK. I agree. His form is OK. It's better than David Lee's. Actually I think that's a good parallel to compare him to. I wonder what was the success rate of Lee's jumper as a rookie.


Nice comp, but Lee isn't near the athlete Zeller is, but he's built pretty solid, and that's something Zeller needs to work on even during the season.

David Lee may not be a high flyer but he was every bit of agile as Zeller is right now when he came into the NBA.
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Re: Welcome To The Bobcats: Cody Zeller 

Post#1064 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:10 am

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Oh OK. I agree. His form is OK. It's better than David Lee's. Actually I think that's a good parallel to compare him to. I wonder what was the success rate of Lee's jumper as a rookie.


Nice comp, but Lee isn't near the athlete Zeller is, but he's built pretty solid, and that's something Zeller needs to work on even during the season.

David Lee may not be a high flyer but he was every bit of agile as Zeller is right now when he came into the NBA.


He was probably twice as agile as Zeller coming in. Lee was solid as hell for the Knicks as a rookie.
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Re: Welcome To The Bobcats: Cody Zeller 

Post#1065 » by mrknowitall215 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:24 am

Cody Zeller & David Lee scored similar results in their lane agility test at the predraft combine. Zeller scored a 10.82, while Lee scored a 10.80. They rival each other in the agility department. Of course, Zeller jump higher, and is a little faster in straight sprints, but I was a little surprised to read that Zeller bench pressed more than Lee, 17 to 14
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Re: Welcome To The Bobcats: Cody Zeller 

Post#1066 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:25 am

mrknowitall215 wrote:Cody Zeller & David Lee scored similar results in their lane agility test at the predraft combine. Zeller scored a 10.82, while Lee scored a 10.80. They rival each other in the agility department. Of course, Zeller jump higher, and is a little faster in straight sprints, but I was a little surprised to read that Zeller bench pressed more than Lee, 17 to 14


Zeller is just fine upperbody strength wise. He actually has some nice little biceps on him, but lower body, especially his thighs need some serious squats.
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Re: Welcome To The Bobcats: Cody Zeller 

Post#1067 » by JDR720 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:28 am

his lower body is smaller than most bigs in the NBA so when he gets hit he goes off balance and that is why he struggles to convert in traffic, do some squats get bigger in the middle of his body and he will be fine
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Re: Welcome To The Bobcats: Cody Zeller 

Post#1068 » by mrknowitall215 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:30 am

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mrknowitall215 wrote:Cody Zeller & David Lee scored similar results in their lane agility test at the predraft combine. Zeller scored a 10.82, while Lee scored a 10.80. They rival each other in the agility department. Of course, Zeller jump higher, and is a little faster in straight sprints, but I was a little surprised to read that Zeller bench pressed more than Lee, 17 to 14


Zeller is just fine upperbody strength wise. He actually has some nice little biceps on him, but lower body, especially his thighs need some serious squats.


I never was one to mention that Zeller need to get in the weight room. I always figured that his struggles so far early in his NBA debut had more to do with confidence. Even though I still think that is the case, now I'm starting to think that he should look into developing balance by doing exercises that'll build upon that. He fall to the ground entirely too much for a 7-footer. That's probably because he never really ever quite have his feet beneath him
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Re: Welcome To The Bobcats: Cody Zeller 

Post#1069 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:32 am

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mrknowitall215 wrote:Cody Zeller & David Lee scored similar results in their lane agility test at the predraft combine. Zeller scored a 10.82, while Lee scored a 10.80. They rival each other in the agility department. Of course, Zeller jump higher, and is a little faster in straight sprints, but I was a little surprised to read that Zeller bench pressed more than Lee, 17 to 14


Zeller is just fine upperbody strength wise. He actually has some nice little biceps on him, but lower body, especially his thighs need some serious squats.


I never was one to mention that Zeller need to get in the weight room. I always figured that his struggles so far early in his NBA debut had more to do with confidence. Even though I still think that is the case, now I'm starting to think that he should look into developing balance by doing exercises that'll build upon that. He fall to the ground entirely too much for a 7-footer. That's probably because he never really ever quite have his feet beneath him


I think a lot of him falling to the ground is trying to get a foul call, which won't happen to a rookie. Its actually quiet embarrassing at times. In the Golden State game Bogut had a beautiful clean block on him, and there was a little body involved, but one would think that someone put a 12 gauge shot gun in Zellers mouth and pulled the trigger. You could actually hear a huge thump when his body hit the court, so he needs to be careful trying to overreact and get foul calls that way.
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Re: Welcome To The Bobcats: Cody Zeller 

Post#1070 » by Eoghan » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:39 am

Zeller has a really high center of gravity which contributes a lot to his floor bombing antics. Not only does he need to do a gazillion squats but also learn to bend his knees and lower himself when getting boards and posting up. When he's airborne, he's gotta learn that he can't just two-hand dunk on people as much as in college, a lot more people in the NBA are above the rim defenders. He's got to learn some up and unders and switching hands on dunks/layups when he challenges guys like Bogut.
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Re: Welcome To The Bobcats: Cody Zeller 

Post#1071 » by JDR720 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:41 am

Cody's max bench press is somewhere around 285lbs (using a max bench calculator 17reps at 185lbs) which is good for a rookie, Dwight only got 7 reps on the combine now hes benching 365 pretty easily
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Re: Welcome To The Bobcats: Cody Zeller 

Post#1072 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:44 am

Im still in love with the pick, mainly because none of the rookies that were in our range is catching the NBA on fire, at all. Actually most of the rookies look like utter trash.

Now watch Noel average a double double next year..
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Re: Welcome To The Bobcats: Cody Zeller 

Post#1073 » by JDR720 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:47 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Im still in love with the pick, mainly because none of the rookies that were in our range is catching the NBA on fire, at all. Actually most of the rookies look like utter trash.

Now watch Noel average a double double next year..

i doubt Noel averages a double double, Cody may need to get stronger lower body, but Noel needs the seefood diet he sees food he better eat it and combines that with the whole foods diet he eats the WHOLE thing

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Noel walking around sees a chicken, he saw the chicken so he has to eat it and also he has to eat the WHOLE thing by himself at once
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Re: Welcome To The Bobcats: Cody Zeller 

Post#1074 » by Liver_Pooty » Fri Dec 13, 2013 2:51 am

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Liver_Pooty wrote:Im still in love with the pick, mainly because none of the rookies that were in our range is catching the NBA on fire, at all. Actually most of the rookies look like utter trash.

Now watch Noel average a double double next year..

i doubt Noel averages a double double, Cody may need to get stronger lower body, but Noel needs the seefood diet he sees food he better eat it and combines that with the whole foods diet he eats the WHOLE thing

for example

Noel walking around sees a chicken, he saw the chicken so he has to eat it and also he has to eat the WHOLE thing by himself at once


I guarantee you the sixers have him on an insane protein based high carb diet right now.
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Re: Welcome To The Bobcats: Cody Zeller 

Post#1075 » by HornetJail » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:28 am

I saw Noel and chicken together and was positive it was about his chicken legs.
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Re: Welcome To The Bobcats: Cody Zeller 

Post#1076 » by JMAC3 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:41 am

I think everybody needs to pump the brakes on Cody. I think he has done really well with what he has been given. Over his last few games he seems to be figuring it out, especially in limited minutes.

I think if he were to start to get 25 minutes a night you would see him averaging 12 and 6.

He is a scorer, he has to be on the floor to do that tho, he is not going to score 20 points in 16 minutes, but if you start to play him closer to the 30 minutes a night I think you start to see those type of performances here and there.

Obviously he is a rookie so he is going to have some bad games, but I think we have to start to think about getting him more minutes. McRoberts is a nice guy to have, but he is not scoring 20 very often, where Cody has that type of game and versatility.

Plus it seems Cody is starting to get a better feel for rebounding, so I do not see a big drop off if any there. The big difference is the playmaking aspect and McBob has more range, but I actually trust Cody shooting an 18 footer more so than McBob.

I wouldn't be too disappointed if McBob were to strain a hammy or something similiar where he is out 1-2 weeks, so we could get an extended look at Zeller getting starting minutes.
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Re: Welcome To The Bobcats: Cody Zeller 

Post#1077 » by HornetJail » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:43 am

JMAC3 wrote:I wouldn't be too disappointed if McBob were to strain a hammy or something similiar where he is out 1-2 weeks, so we could get an extended look at Zeller getting starting minutes.

I'd rather see Zeller play well enough and earn his minutes than see McBob have to get hurt just for Zeller to get minutes.
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Re: Welcome To The Bobcats: Cody Zeller 

Post#1078 » by JDR720 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:45 am

Zeller will probably take McBobs starting role later in the season, besides assists McBob doesn't really do anything else better than Zeller
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Re: Welcome To The Bobcats: Cody Zeller 

Post#1079 » by fatlever » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:49 am

sheridan hoops has zeller at #10 on their rookie rankings

http://www.sheridanhoops.com/2013/12/12 ... ry-bust/2/

CODY ZELLER, C, CHARLOTTE: Back after a one-week absence because he finally added shot-making to his otherwise solid play. Reached double figures in scoring for the first time this season, then showed it wasn’t an accident by doing it again. For the week, averaged 8.3 points on 67 percent shooting.
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Re: Welcome To The Bobcats: Cody Zeller 

Post#1080 » by mrknowitall215 » Fri Dec 13, 2013 3:52 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:Im still in love with the pick, mainly because none of the rookies that were in our range is catching the NBA on fire, at all. Actually most of the rookies look like utter trash.

Now watch Noel average a double double next year..


Nerlens Noel indeed will make Charlotte pay for passing on him, but I would like to send a thank you to all the teams that passed on him, and a special thank you to the former Hornets that blessed my Sixers with a future 1st rounder along with Noel for Jrue Holiday only to watch us draft Michael Carter-Williams, who is essentially a equal-to-better version of Holiday already
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